Delibirb Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Unstable Spoilers are apparently starting in full force. Apparently, a number of people have received pieces of oversized cards in the mail from Wizards of the Coast. Specifically, these: [spoiler=Large Images] That's right: Contraptions are being revealed at last! We do have all the pieces now, so this is what we know: [spoiler=Contrations and Sprockets Assembled!] The lack of mana cost would seem to imply that Contraptions do not exist in the library; they are likely, as was highly speculated, a separate deck in the command zone, and are assembled randomly (or perhaps not randomly, but still). You'll need to place them on a "sprocket" to determine how frequently you are able to "crank" them. Very unique! Also note that they are borderless. MaRo has hinted there is something special about their art (probably it all fits together like one big contraption) but perhaps the lack of silver or black borders could mean special rules to allow it in certain formats or under certain conditions, without messing with the legality rules of silver-bordered cards. Maybe. We can dream. Worst case scenario, casual EDH groups will be able to use them, and that's hardly a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesability Black Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Ooooh, this should be a fun thing to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/167382914418/from-matt-tabak-on-reddit-mark-is-incorrect So confirmation from MaRo: contraptions are not legal in non-Unformats. As Kano mentions, they also do not start the game in one's deck, but rather in a separate "contraption deck." Funnily enough, even though Steamflogger Boss is black-bordered, it itself cannot assemble a contraption. So even if the contraptions were legal, you'd have no way of using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted November 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/167382914418/from-matt-tabak-on-reddit-mark-is-incorrect So confirmation from MaRo: contraptions are not legal in non-Unformats. As Kano mentions, they also do not start the game in one's deck, but rather in a separate "contraption deck." Funnily enough, even though Steamflogger Boss is black-bordered, it itself cannot assemble a contraption. So even if the contraptions were legal, you'd have no way of using them.They are, however, leaving room to make them legal if they decide to print black-bordered methods of assembling them. We'll have to see how contraptions do here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 IT BEGINS For those that didn't read the mechanics/Mark's article contraptions work as follow. 1) Contraptions start in their own deck. 2) When you assemble a contraption you put it into one of the three sprockets. 3) On upkeep you move the crank (starting from 3->1) and trigger any contraptions on the new sprocket. Honestly, I think the mechanical execution is beautiful and should be a joy to see in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Earl of Squirrel is how you win limited really really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesability Black Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Okay, this would be too Arceus-damned hilarious to see in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 love me a good game of hangman in the middle of my good game of magic or ripping a phage out of my legions pack and losing off my 8 mana spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just tried to post all of the new ones from today, but it wouldn't let me, so I'll add my favorites of the day instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 If my LGS gives me the ok to use Spike as my commander things are going to get a bit silly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 since Spike says "Has been banned or restricted" I went to look for something that gives a list, found a timeline of those announcements https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Banned_and_restricted_cards/Timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 wow ycm magic community are you even here some cool rakdos un-commanders for yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not gonna lie I was too lazy to post all the new cards yesterday. Anyway, set is looking sweet. Really happy that none of the cards are things I'd disallow my friends from using in commander if they so wished too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 When I posted the 4 spoilers, including Spike, I tried to post the whole days, but it wouldn't let me.I'm so glad Last and Triple Strike made it in, since I've been seeing questions sent to MaRo on his tumblr about those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 also more or less is really funny when used on the countdown is at one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 So...... If you use More or Less on The Countdown is at one, do you actually have a chance to look at what is in your hand in the subgame before you both lose? Because I saw someone mention Providence as a way to make things suddenly one sided in the subgame, and if you can reveal that and save yourself from losing the subgame you generate an unkillable furnace for your opponent but not yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 So...... If you use More or Less on The Countdown is at one, do you actually have a chance to look at what is in your hand in the subgame before you both lose? Because I saw someone mention Providence as a way to make things suddenly one sided in the subgame, and if you can reveal that and save yourself from losing the subgame you generate an unkillable furnace for your opponent but not yourself Providence doesn't save you. Casting The Countdown... and targeting it with More or Less to change 1 to 0 will cause each player to start the subgame with 0 life. Providence's ability goes on the stack at the beginning of the first upkeep, but state-based actions see both players have 0 life when priority is given, and both players lose before the trigger in the subgame resolves. (Refer to rule 503.1a.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 countdown at 1 + more or less is the dumbest combo I've seen yet. Can't wait to get hit by it in draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 so i see what people mean by being too lazy to post spoilers when you have to post ALL of them. so uh... here's a very cryptic command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'm curious how good the second mode will be. It will tap down all basics, but not sure how often it will get things past that. The one sided Windfall is really powerful though. My only issue is this really isn't an un card. Like, we have a few like this but this is the one that stands out the most to me. If the second ability was changed it would be perfectly doable in black boarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 if you somehow live the dream and open up two of these you can basically keep recurring them and get a turnabout on your opponents upkeep every turn. Pretty gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I like how they learned from Cheaty Face and made it so it say it needs to be in your hand. And I'm curious how Buzz will fair in commander. It feels like he isn't good enough, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I like how they learned from Cheaty Face and made it so it say it needs to be in your hand. And I'm curious how Buzz will fair in commander. It feels like he isn't good enough, but I could be wrong.Physics would suggest there's a maximum optimal height before the dice are going to go too far out to land on anything helpful. I'm gonna guess you don't want more than 7 or 8, at which point it kinda depends on boardstates to determine how useful he will be. Also, I'm a big fan of these: If you go to draft Unstable with friends, make a pat beforehand to make sure they screw up your opponent as much as possible you tap them for Sacrifice Play or Kindslaver. Over My Dead Bodies is awesome. Too bad Undeathtouch isn't printed on a creature card, so you can't use it for this fella: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 New week new spoilers. Going to actually stay on top of things this time. The SNEAK legends seem really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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