Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Rules:All Leaderboard rules apply.First to 3 votes or most votes by deadline wins.All voters must elaborate on their votes or else the vote will be rejected.Both contestants have the right to refuse votes but must explain why they don't accept it.Card C votes are allowed in case the voter thinks both cards don't deserve a vote but must elaborate on why he/she thinks so.Cards must be PM'd to me.Written cards are allowed.Winner gets 1 point from the loser; each voter gets 1 point from the person they voted for.Remove any evidence of the card being made by you to ensure anonymity.In case a downtime or an emergency happens, the deadlines may be extended. Deadlines:The deadline for cards is 48 hours after the challenge has been accepted.The deadline for votes is 96 hours (4 days) after cards have been posted.In case of a challenger failing to meet the above deadline without explanation, the challenger slot will open up again, at which point it becomes first-come-first-served between the previous challengers and new submissions. Requirement: Make a card that either:a) works around supporting a type of specific counter, or placing counters on cards that are usually spread through another card/archetype in the TCG/OCG.b) supports Counter Trap Cards. [spoiler=Card A] Quick-Play Spell Card Lore: Special Summon any "Vijam the Cubic Spawn(s)", but no more than 1 each from your hand, GY, Spell & Trap Zone, and/or among your banished cards, and if you do, you can place 1 Cubic Counter on any number of Special Summoned monsters on the field, equal to the number of Level 1 "Cubic" monsters you control. (Monsters with a Cubic Counter cannot attack, also negate their effects.) You can banish this card from your GY; this turn, the names of all monsters with a Cubic Counter become "Crimson Nova the Dark Cubic Deity", also if you would Fusion Summon a monster, you can use 1 "Cubic" monster your opponent controls as a Fusion Material. [spoiler=Card B] DARK - ✪✪✪✪ - Reptile/Effect - 1300/1900Once per turn: You can Tribute 1 monster on the field with an A-Counter(s); Special Summon 1 Reptile monster from your Deck, except "Alien Fabricator". If this card is in your GY: You can remove 2 A-Counters from anywhere on the field; Special Summon this card. You can only use this effect of "Alien Fabricator" once per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 So much choice! I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 sure! but which category tho, A or B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 sure! but which category tho, A or B? A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 A it is, cardmaking process begins now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 cards are up, let's get to votin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gambino Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Card A - Cubic Stratification: This is a really good card. For theme, it definitely attributes to the swarm capabilities/requirements of the archetype, and I like how you balanced the Vijam swarm with making sure it's only 1 from each target location. The Cubic counter placement effect works, though I'm not sure why wording it as "Level 1 Cubic monsters" mattered considering Vijam is the only one, but dew u boo. Lastly, the final effect allows you to wrap up all that setup up for the Big Lebowski (Crimson Nova Trinity) to hit the field. Nothing screams broken about this card to me; it's very specific in what it wants to accomplish, and it does so very well. Me like.Card B - Alien Fabricator: Unlike it's contender, this card is pretty simple, not asking for much, which means it shouldn't deliver a whole lot either, especially as a Level 4 monster... so therein lies the problem for me. The second effect is fine - throw away 2 A-Counters to revive him. However, that first effect makes me do the "thinking emoji" face excessively. Firstly, being able to place A-Counters on monsters isn't really a scarcity for Aliens, especially with cards like "A" Cell Breeding Device, which can place 1 per turn. Taking that into account, the fact that this card can Tribute a monster with just 1 A-Counter from anywhere on the field (aka your opponent's monsters 9/10 times) to Special Summon any Reptile monster (aka boss Reptile monsters 9/10 times) from your Deck each turn is a little ridiculous. There are several ways this could've been way more balanced: Increasing required counters to 2, the Reptile targets being Level 4 or lower, the summon targets being only Aliens, the summon targets only being from hand, only being activated on Fabricators summon, etc etc etc. For me, the way it is now is just extremely punishing of the opponent and rewarding in your favor with what I'd hardly consider a condition. Sorry buddy, this card (imo) needs to be taken back to the drawing board.So, I think my vote is pretty clear, but if you want the tl;dr version: my vote goes to Card A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 1-0 for card A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Card B seems unbalanced for Aliens. Its first effect can tribute monsters with A-counters on BOTH side of the field to Special Summon 1 Reptile monster in deck, which allows Aliens to basically spit on your opponent's most valuable monster while gaining advantage. That's not balanced at all. Its first effect is also not a HOPT which also screams "PLEASE ABUSE ME LIKE A b****" which makes this card from "unbalanced" to "bullshit". Its second effect also allows the first effect to be looped once, which seems like an icing on the cake. Card A on the other hand is also not very balanced either. Card A can potentially allows some cubic shenanigans & negate up to 3 monsters at once, and its graveyard effect allows you to use the opponent's monster as a fusion material for that Level 10 cubic fusion thing which also means "spit on your opponent's most valuable monster". However Card A is less generic than Card B and less "loopable" than Card B, so my vote goes to Card A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Pretty sure the deadline is up at this point, so A 2-0 B, BDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Indeed it is-good match, my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 RIP, me forgetting to put in the Level restriction was the stupidest mistake ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Ayy, come on, it's a paltry oversight-I liked the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Fabricator can't actually tribute the opponent's monsters with the current wording, just saying. Also Reptiles rn don't actually have a whole lot going for them, so "boss monsters" isn't actually a real concern. Alien Fabricator is basically Lonefire Blossom for Reptiles but with extra restrictions on what it can tribute, + a revival effect. I know it's too late to vote but Fabricator is actually a pretty well designed card and you shouldn't feel bad Dova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gambino Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Ah, a wording technicality. Since my only concern was turning an opponent's monster into a boss Reptile for little to nothing, the card is not as bad as I originally thought, although I believe the unknown-card-maker-at-the-time's intentions were to make it to where they could tribute from anywhere on the field, but that's neither here nor there when speaking on the card's actual functionality. I'm glad you brought this up as I wasn't aware that there was a difference between "on the field" and "anywhere on the field"; I suppose the game has gotten finicky enough to warrant such a ruling. I apologize if my previous post was made out (or somehow played a part) to make anyone feel bad, that was not my goal. Dova is an exceptional card maker and this was a very interesting challenge to witness from both participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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