CraneMonk Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Any easy way of summoning vwxyz for this monster's summoning conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 as far as awma... maybe you could use something that allows you to tribute summon on your opponent's turn to keep it in grave?in TCG, you can run 4 copies of foolish to ditch it. Armed Dragon being shuffled is the least of your concerns. XYZ Dragon Cannon can be summoned with a 2 card combo, but VW Tiger Catapult doesn't have that luxury. There are actually a decent number of tricks for summoning Armed Dragon, but VWXYZ remains a clusterfuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Any easy way of summoning vwxyz for this monster's summoning conditions?OCG has Fusion Tag to cheat VWXYZ (works on contact fusion), but iirc TCG worded Fusion Tag differently so that it wont work against VWXYZ (only for fusion summon), correct me if im wrong, otherwise, its a pain to summon it via normal ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 How to first turn Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon! Starting hand Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow, That Grass Looks Greener, Soul Charge, Level Down!? and Pot of Desires. Your opponent absolutely does not play hand traps. 1) Special Summon Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow and activate its effect.2) Use both Vague Shadow Tokens as Link Material for Link-2 Proxy Dragon.3) Use Proxy Dragon and Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow as Link Material for Decode Talker.4) Activate That Grass Looks Greener with your deck having 60 starting cards and your opponent's having 40, mill 20. Oh look V-Tiger Jet, X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Elemental Hero Prisma! 5) Activate Pot of Desires, banishing 10 from the top of your Deck and drawing Armed Dragon LV10 and Terraforming. Nice draws!6) Activate Terraforming and add Union Hangar to your hand. 7) Activate Union Hangar and add W-Wing Catapult from your Deck to your hand8) Activate Soul Charge, pay 4000 Life Points to Special Summon V-Tiger Jet, X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Elemental Hero Prisma from your Graveyard, with Prisma being Summoned to a Main Monster Zone not pointed to by Decode Talker.9) Activate Union Hangar's effect to equip Z-Metal Tank from the Deck to Y-Dragon Head. 10) Either Normal Summon W-Wing Catapult or activate its effect to equip itself from the hand to V-Tiger Jet. 11) Activate Elemental Hero Prisma's effect, revealing Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon to copy Armed Dragon LV7. 12) Tribute Elemental Hero Prisma to Special Summon Armed Dragon LV10 from the hand at the same Main Monster Zone.13) Activate Level Down!? targeting Armed Dragon LV10 and return it to the Deck to Special Summon Armed Dragon LV7 from the Deck (as depicted on Level Down!?'s card art!) to the same Main Monster Zone. 14) Banish X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Z-Metal Tank to Special Summon XYZ-Dragon Cannon from the Extra Deck at a Main Monster Zone pointed to by Decode Talker. 15) Banish V-Tiger Jet and W-Wing Catapult to Special Summon VW-Tiger Catapult from the Extra Deck at the other Main Monster Zone pointed to by Decode Talker. 16) Banish VW-Tiger Catapult and XYZ-Dragon Cannon to Special Summon VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon from the Extra Deck.17) Banish VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon and XYZ-Dragon Cannon to Special Summon OUR BOY Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon from the Extra Deck. They should call it EZPZ-Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm so looking forward to what the heck they will do to support it. We're still getting 3 more cards for Chazz this set! I do like that it's "easy" to summon once you've managed to achieve the conditions because you can banish the materials from the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshai Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Polaris you're trying to hard. Just use Elemental HERO Prisma, Copy Knight, Inferno Reckless Summon, and Fusion Tag. Setup is that you have the 3 cards in hand and Copy Knight readied 1. Summon Prisma2. Activate Copy Knight to Special Summon Copy Knight, which is treated as a Special Summoned 0 ATK Prisma3. Activate Inferno Reckless Summon, which Summons 2 more Prisma from your Deck.4. Use 1 of the Special Summoned Prisma's effects to be treated as Armed Dragon LV 7.5. Use Fusion Tag on Copy Knight to make it treated as V-Z6. FUSION SHYOKAN Since the Prisma and Copy Knight were Special Summoned and are also treated as V-Z and Armed Dragon LV 7, the requirement has technically been met and you can go for a V-Z that isn't unrealistically hard to Summon, since comparing it to Exodia it isn't too terrible. You can also have Armed Dragon LV 10, which can tribute Prisma to Special Summon itself, a 3 K walking Lightning Vortex, which is already pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Fusion Tag only works "if used for a Fusion Summon this turn." and Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon cannot be Fusion Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wording says the monsters, as in those names, have to have been summoned during the duel. You cannot cheese that with prisma. That name was not Special Summoned, it was copied after summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 This too is true, but you can still copy LV7 and Tribute it for LV10. You can also Soul Charge or otherwise Special Summon LV5 and then use Level Up! for the first-turn LV7, as unfortunately it's impossible to get out on the first turn using LV5's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I don't think "A Wild Monster Appears!" would help if the monster is shuffled into the Deck, since the card text of the Fusion indicates the above cards, that is, the cards you intent to use for the Summon, should have been Summoned at some point during the duel. If it accepted cards even if another copy was Summoned, then I think it would include something among the lines of "..or a cards with the same name, were previously Special Summoned..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshai Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Idk whether or not I'm right or wrong, but here's where I found the combo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Idk whether or not I'm right or wrong, but here's where I found the combo: Copy Knight is interesting, however (due to the conditions being separate) the original monsters have not been summoned earlier, the combo does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 "I got it off YouTube so I must be right!" To be fair, the combo does appear to work in the OCG and not the TCG due to a Fusion Tag discrepancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 How to first turn Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon! Starting hand Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow, That Grass Looks Greener, Soul Charge, Level Down!? and Pot of Desires. Your opponent absolutely does not play hand traps. 1) Special Summon Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow and activate its effect.2) Use both Vague Shadow Tokens as Link Material for Link-2 Proxy Dragon.3) Use Proxy Dragon and Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow as Link Material for Decode Talker.4) Activate That Grass Looks Greener with your deck having 60 starting cards and your opponent's having 40, mill 20. Oh look V-Tiger Jet, X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Elemental Hero Prisma! 5) Activate Pot of Desires, banishing 10 from the top of your Deck and drawing Armed Dragon LV10 and Terraforming. Nice draws!6) Activate Terraforming and add Union Hangar to your hand. 7) Activate Union Hangar and add W-Wing Catapult from your Deck to your hand8) Activate Soul Charge, pay 4000 Life Points to Special Summon V-Tiger Jet, X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Elemental Hero Prisma from your Graveyard, with Prisma being Summoned to a Main Monster Zone not pointed to by Decode Talker.9) Activate Union Hangar's effect to equip Z-Metal Tank from the Deck to Y-Dragon Head. 10) Either Normal Summon W-Wing Catapult or activate its effect to equip itself from the hand to V-Tiger Jet. 11) Activate Elemental Hero Prisma's effect, revealing Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon to copy Armed Dragon LV7. 12) Tribute Elemental Hero Prisma to Special Summon Armed Dragon LV10 from the hand at the same Main Monster Zone.13) Activate Level Down!? targeting Armed Dragon LV10 and return it to the Deck to Special Summon Armed Dragon LV7 from the Deck (as depicted on Level Down!?'s card art!) to the same Main Monster Zone. 14) Banish X-Head Cannon, Y-Dragon Head, and Z-Metal Tank to Special Summon XYZ-Dragon Cannon from the Extra Deck at a Main Monster Zone pointed to by Decode Talker. 15) Banish V-Tiger Jet and W-Wing Catapult to Special Summon VW-Tiger Catapult from the Extra Deck at the other Main Monster Zone pointed to by Decode Talker. 16) Banish VW-Tiger Catapult and XYZ-Dragon Cannon to Special Summon VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon from the Extra Deck.17) Banish VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon and XYZ-Dragon Cannon to Special Summon OUR BOY Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon from the Extra Deck. They should call it EZPZ-Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon!Can't do Step 13. Even if you ignore the Summoning conditions, you must first properly Summon Armed Dragon LV7 to Special Summon it from the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Money given! You even more can't do it because Step 13 states "Special Summon Armed Dragon LV7 from the Deck" rather than the Graveyard, which Level Down!? doesn't even do (I assumed it was just a Level Up! in reverse but it isn't). Level Up! on a milled and revived Armed Dragon LV5 is certainly the better way to go about it, and requires a card-in-hand fewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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