Black D'Sceptyr Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Rules:All Leaderboard rules apply.First to 3 votes or most votes by deadline wins.All voters must elaborate on their votes or else the vote will be rejected.Both contestants have the right to refuse votes but must explain why they don't accept it.Card C votes are allowed in case the voter thinks both cards don't deserve a vote but must elaborate on why he/she thinks so.Cards must be PM'd to me.Written cards are allowed.Remove any evidence of the card being made by you to ensure anonymityIn case a downtime or an emergency happens, the deadlines may be extended.Deadlines:The deadline for cards is 48 hours after the challenge has been accepted.The deadline for votes is 96 hours (4 days) after cards have been posted.In case of a challenger failing to meet the above deadline without explanation, the challenger slot will open up again, at which point it becomes first-come-first-served between the previous challengers and new submissions. Requirement: Challenger's Choice-A) In the same vein as "Sauravis, the Ancient and Ascended", make a Level 7 or lower Ritual Monster that can be Ritual Summoned using either "Contract with the Abyss" or "Earth Chant".B) Make 2 cards: A Ritual Spell Card that generically Ritual Summons a FIRE, WIND or WATER Ritual Monster (which will be listed as Card A1/B1), and a Level 7 or lower Ritual Monster that can be Ritual Summoned with that Ritual Spell Card (which will be listed as Card A2/B2). [spoiler=Card A] DARK/Spellcaster-Type Ritual Effect Monster/Level 4/2000 ATK/0 DEFLore: Can be Ritual Summoned with "Contract with the Abyss". If this card is Ritual Summoned: You can send 1 card from your Deck to the GY. Then, if it was a DARK monster, you can draw 1 card. Quick Effect: You can send this card from your hand or field to the GY, then target 1 Level 4 or lower monster in your GY, except "Abyssal Curator"; Special Summon it. You can only use this effect of "Abyssal Curator" once per turn. [spoiler=Card B] DARK/Dragon-Type Ritual Effect Monster/Level 7/2800 ATK/1000 DEF Lore: You can Ritual Summon this card with "Contract with the Abyss" You can only use 1 of these "Diabolos, the Exiled and Empowered" effects per turn, and only once that turn.• You can discard this card (Quick Effect): immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon 1 Level 7 or lower monster with 2800 or 1400 ATK, without Tributing if it is Level 5 or higher.• When a card or effect is activated that would destroy or banish a card(s) (Quick Effect): You can declare 3 card names; negate the activation, then your opponent reveals the top 3 cards of their Deck (or all of them, if less than 3) and places as many cards they control as possible on the bottom of the Deck in any order, but not more than the number of revealed cards you named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Belle Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I guess I'll go with choice A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Righty then .Belle, I accept your terms. Option A rules apply, cardmaking process begins now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Cards are up my creatures of the night-their votes await you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Card A is not that interesting and its Quick Effect is too powerful in the hand. It's better than a lot of Trap reanimaton if you don't need to revive Level 5 or higher monsters while being much more searchable. But that's just a bonus. Think about it in Tellarknights or something compared to Traps like CotH or BttF. Card B is interesting. It has Monarch stats and does a Monarch-esque stat check that can Normal Summon Senju/Manju a second time or on an opponent's turn. It can't Tribute Summon anything though, so no Tribute Summon triggers. It's quite fair. Since Senju/Manju also have 1000 DEF, that could have been included in the check as well, but either way works. Its field effect is also pretty interesting and is fair. You can negate the activation of your own card/effect with it, which is encouraged because it doesn't destroy the negated card. These effects probably didn't need to be super hard once per turn, just hard once per turn each. Card B is more fair and interesting and tries harder at actually working with certain cards in the card pool (stat check, protection, self-pop/banish, Normal Summons, SPYing) instead of just being generically good, boring effects (mill, draw, reanimate). Card B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 0-1, point to Card B. Any objection, .Belle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshai Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Card A isn't a Ritual monster. It's an Elder Entity Norden-esc staple that can be used in any Deck without a Ritual Spell, but if you do use the Ritual Spell, it's a - 2, then a + 1.5 with Deck thinning, which is pretty balanced. My main problem is that it's a Quick Effect, since Special Summoning as a hand Trap and be bonkers with something like Fossil Dyna. Otherwise, it's a Ritual Shaddoll monster. Card B is so close. The Quick Effect that can Normal Summon doesn't say "Ignoring its summoning conditions" which is REALLY important. It would've synergized with itself, it would've synergized with Dark Armed Dragon. If there would've been a problem then you should've just limited it to DARK monsters. If that is what the card had, it would've won me over instantly. Rather than having simple negation you go for more interesting card effects where you call out card names. I like how they have to search every turn they get negated since you can remember the next time and screw your opponent's field if they aren't careful. That part was done really well, while also giving homage to what the card was previously. I gotta give it to Card B for being more interesting while also something that can be improved on. While not being as good competitively, it could be really good for generic DARK Decks of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Card A Already mentioned above; card is basically Ritual No®den that mills if you Ritual Summon. I mean, the effects are generally fine on their own, but then we have the issue of this just being another Deck thinner that can then start reviving stuff soon after you mill and all. So...there's not too much reason to actually Ritual Summon it when you can add on to Rank 4 stuff. (Not as abusable as Norden, yes, but you get where this is going) Card B Ohai Diabolos retrain... But yeah, card works fine for getting its old form out due to the SS lock on it. Though with that being said, I don't think Monarchs want this for obvious reason and not seeing any DARK decks that can afford it either. At least it gets Manju/Senju out among other things [there are no Level 5+ monsters with 1400 ATK that are even worth running]; a free 2800 ATK 'mon sounds good though. Disruption is kind of neat though, especially if you can negate your own effect (why?) and then cut the opponent's field down if you declare it right. After a while, you can probably take a guess at what MIGHT be in your opponent's Deck. Yes, it is luck-based and requires you to know this, but least it's chainable to most forms of removal and punishes the opponent for being careless with plays. ======Card B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Well shoot- 3-0 for Card B then. .Belle, want to call it right here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Belle Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yeah, I kinda messed up. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Alright, make sure one of you records the result in the Leaderboard thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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