The Warden Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 *Silently cries to self* That funking jabroni. That funking Blissey. Why, just, funking WHY did they put Fling in their funking moveset? It's not particularly useful on the Chansey line, so funking WHY did they include it beyond sheer spitefulness? I found my 4th Lucky Egg Blissey, and the first thing that funking jabroni does is Fling, tossing it immediately while I try to swap to my Gardevoir to Thief it. Just, funking, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 So I was battling Totem Lurantis yesterday, killed ally Comfey and then Lurantis calls Kecleon and I was like "The funk?! Totems should only call the one ally." Anyone else had to deal with that? Team after beating Olivia (italics are temp team members);Artemis the Dartrix lv29SmartAlec the Slowking lv29Keese the Crobat lv29Kaiju the Larvitar lv29Battery the Pikachu lv29LopEarShoota the Lopunny lv29 (Yeah, all my main team members thus far are female. I'm tempted to make the other two I plan to add females as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 @Broken: Probably to sheet over players like you and I who plan on farming those eggs for added EXP. But yeah, they could've been a lot nicer and not have Blissey keep Fling at that level. @British: First time, yeah. Then I just reset the game, imported level 31 Growlithe from Sun and said "I'm not dealing with this sheet again" and burned Lurantis with the Z-move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 @Sakura: No, what they should have done was not funk with their level-up moves so they actually would learn Healing Wish not 7 levels later than in SuMo (level 50) so they'd get rid of Fling in favour of it. Double-Edge could still stay as a high level move though. @British: Totems always had second helpers come Akala and onwards. I recall Totem Wishiwashi in SuMo called upon Wishiwashi first, and once it was KOed it'd call an Alomomola instead. I always expected Totem Lurantis to have 2 helpers since I'm pretty sure it has 2 in SuMo as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 @British: Totems always had second helpers come Akala and onwards. I recall Totem Wishiwashi in SuMo called upon Wishiwashi first, and once it was KOed it'd call an Alomomola instead. I always expected Totem Lurantis to have 2 helpers since I'm pretty sure it has 2 in SuMo as well.I was aware that the later Totems have 2 helpers (after checking), but I had never had to deal with the second helper in any of the Totem fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Well, either way I did choose to deal with the Kecleon after the Comfey, largely because my Torracat was basically just toying with it since it resisted whatever sheet it could throw at him while it destroyed Comfey and Kecleon for extra exp, since ally Pokemon seem to give more than wild ones, kinda like trainer Pokemon. But yeah, I've frequently dealt with secondary allies, considering much of the time they have a habit of immediately summoning the next one when the first one is beaten, at least later anyways. I literally had Totem Kommo-O summon its next ally the same turn I had just beaten its first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Totem Togedemaru can funking do one, wiping my team (which to be fair was all at 32, so was underlevelled, and yes I do have the exp share on). Guess I'll have to grind or employ temp team members to get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 IDK, might help if you get a Ground type (though yeah, you don't have access to the higher level Mudbray unless you actually beat said Togedemaru / can access Route 12). Though then again, I didn't use a Ground either (but forgot what I actually did for it, aside from grinding). Fire or Fighting type might be of some help though; preferably stuff that doesn't make contact because Spiky Shield / Iron Barbs. ====In terms of legendary catching on my end, still need to get Dialga to finish up the Green wormholes, then Articuno/Cresselia on Red, and have to grind on Ultra Moon for access to Suicune, Kyurem, Rayquaza (uh I can probably move that Kyogre I brought over from Gen 6 in Sun cartridge temporarily), Giratina and Landorus. Need to go get my FC from the global mission too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 IDK, might help if you get a Ground type (though yeah, you don't have access to the higher level Mudbray unless you actually beat said Togedemaru / can access Route 12). Though then again, I didn't use a Ground either (but forgot what I actually did for it, aside from grinding).I do have a Ground-type (Pupitar), only problem is that it gets one-shotted by Iron Head.Having said that, I decided to change my strat (without grinding) and beat Togedemaru. Somehow I forgot Lopunny had HP Ground for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urayne Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just got a level 10, shiny dialga w/ pokerus thru gts. I asked for dialga. Is it hacked or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just got a level 10, shiny dialga w/ pokerus thru gts. I asked for dialga. Is it hacked or not? Yes, it's hacked, considering the lowest level Dialga can be found at is level 45-47 from DPPt if I remember correctly. Where did it say it originates from? https://serebii.net/games/pokeball.shtml Gen 7 (US/UM) has ALL legendaries (sans Cosmog and Necrozma, which are level 5 and 65, respectively) at level 60, including Dialga. Gen 6 is level 50 from OR/AS.Gen 5 is level 100 from events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yes, it's hacked, considering the lowest level Dialga can be found at is level 45-47 from DPPt if I remember correctly. Where did it say it originates from? https://serebii.net/games/pokeball.shtml Gen 7 (US/UM) has ALL legendaries (sans Cosmog and Necrozma, which are level 5 and 65, respectively) at level 60, including Dialga. Gen 6 is level 50 from OR/AS.Gen 5 is level 100 from events. Technically you can get a level 1 Dialga from HGSS during the Arceus event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Technically you can get a level 1 Dialga from HGSS during the Arceus event. Correct. I also believe shiny locking wasn't a thing until Gen 5 so it being shiny shouldn't be an issue either. The question is if it actually came from the HG/SS event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I forgot about it (likely due to using emulator for HG and never getting to access the event), but like I asked him earlier, where does it originate from. If it's from that event (Sinjoh Ruins), then it's probably fine (but likely still hacked). Then again, I know that Japan did have legendary giveaways at level 15 or something in this gen, but I think those have a ribbon that lock them from trades and those had locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Correct. I also believe shiny locking wasn't a thing until Gen 5 so it being shiny shouldn't be an issue either. The question is if it actually came from the HG/SS event.I also checked earlier when shiny locking became a thing, so yeah only one question remains; whether it came from the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urayne Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Yes, it's hacked, considering the lowest level Dialga can be found at is level 45-47 from DPPt if I remember correctly. Where did it say it originates from? https://serebii.net/games/pokeball.shtml Gen 7 (US/UM) has ALL legendaries (sans Cosmog and Necrozma, which are level 5 and 65, respectively) at level 60, including Dialga. Gen 6 is level 50 from OR/AS.Gen 5 is level 100 from events.Hoenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Team going into Vast Poni Canyon;Artemis the Decidueye lv50SmartAlec the Slowking lv50Keese the Crobat lv50Kaiju the Pupitar lv50Snow Vixen the A-Ninetales lv50Kapow Turtle the Turtonator lv50 yup, all female team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dr Professor Spaz Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Somebody managed to get the formula for Shiny rates in the Ultra WormholesOr, if you want a better visual representation of Shiny chance vs distance.Those are f*cking huge odds compared to the normal .024% (1/4096) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Serebii apparently already calculated it. But yeah, the odds are pretty damn good (though may not be the Shinies you want). Or in my case, anything from the Green wormholes should be shiny now since I got all of the legendaries. Other ones are essentially the legendaries that need their counterparts (I need Entei to get Suicune, Kyogre for Rayquaza, Palkia for Giratina, Zekrom for Kyurem and Thundurus for Landorus). That could probably explain how I got 5 shinies from it, though not always stuff I want. But not complaining; shinies are shinies. Hopefully I get a shiny Floatzel or Altaria, but we'll see how that turns out because it's random chance. ====I didn't keep track of how far I traveled to get Zapdos, Azelf and Mesprit [probably somewhere in the 3000-range or something], but here are the distances I went to get everything I have up until now (legendary-wise). 2420 - Groudon (somehow I remembered this one, because I got the same value twice after I skipped it first time due to not having Synchronize 'mon)3225(ish) - Latios3425 - Moltres4177 - Heatran2347 - Cobalion2325 - Raikou3916 - Tornadus4995 - Regirock3795 - Uxie3159 - Virizion4022 - Regice2213 - Terrakion3603 - Registeel3797 - Mew23874 - Xerneas5429 - Ho-oh4181 - Dialga4752 - Cresselia +33808 - Articuno +4A few of these had higher values when I encountered them, but skipped over because I didn't have appropriate nature to force on at the time; mostly the Yellow wormhole ones. And yeah, I think mostly Type 3 or 4 rings; any of the ones in 2000 range were probably the more common ones that I got dragged into after banging into energy balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 funking Ultra Necrozma, bastard's wiped me twice. Granted my team is level 54, I defo think grinding is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 funking Ultra Necrozma, bastard's wiped me twice. Granted my team is level 54, I defo think grinding is in order. For someone who resets if one Pokemon faints this kind of scares me. I'm just entering Vast Poni Canyon and my team is 49-51 so I'll likely be around that level when I get to Necro. Guess I could turn EXP Share on again since I've noticed the trainers are catching up to my levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I technically survived against Ultra Necrozma with slightly underleveled 'mons and didn't faint completely (I did lose a couple 'mons), but think I also overleveled a bit too. But then again, a lot of people blacked out against it multiple times so you're not alone. Also RIP guys who do nuzlockes. Moral of story being:Grind to level 60+ (or somewhere very close)Make sure Pokémon are tough enough to handle base 167 attacking stats at +1 with Expert Belt effects; same with base 129 speed at that level.Assuming this thing has a neutral nature and zero EVs, 205 HP / 224 Attack and Sp. Atk / 140 Defense and Sp. Def / 178 Speed without the aura. Multiply by 1.5 to get the rest (bar HP). Invest in Pokémon Refresh.Rotom Powers are your friend (but if you don't need to use them, then good enough)Zoroark.Find a way to shut down Necrozma's offensive stats (Intimidate stuff helps). Also bring plenty of super effective moves.====Can only wonder if you can catch the wormhole legendaries before taking on Necrozma, or those are locked until after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dr Professor Spaz Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Actually, if you want a lazy way out, go to the Trainer School on Route 1 and catch a Zorua. Teach it Toxic. Put a Fighting or Poison mon in the back of your party. Laugh as Necrozma ineffectually spams Photon Geyser while dying of poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I did mention Zoroark earlier on (not actually Zorua), but yeah, that's a cheap way if you want to do it without training. Only issue is if AI gets smart enough to realize that it isn't a Fighting/Poison and then proceeds to use its other coverage moves. People did say it worked though, so... Toxic is available at Aether Paradise at the bottom left of the dock area, so...yeah. But up to you on how you want to deal with it (@ BS); I still have to go through it on Ultra Moon, but I have an idea of what to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Legendaries are available before you face Ultra Necrozma Sakura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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