Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Slow LifeContinuous Spell CardActivate this card only if you control no monsters at the start of your Main Phase 1.(1) Apply the following effects:•If a player Normal Summons or Sets a monster(s), that player cannot Special Summon monsters during that turn.•If a player Special Summons a monster(s), that player cannot Normal Summon or Set monsters during that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 totally the anime card we wanted to be printed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 totally the anime card we wanted to be printedNot sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but definitely another floodgate that we needed, I guess?It certainly limits both player's options, but if you're using this, you either are playing something that exclusively relies on one or the other for its Summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Looks quite good on paper, IMO. Can't True Dracos make effective use of it? AFAIK they don't Special Summon as often so they wouldn't be harmed too much by locking either their Special or Normal Summons, while few other decks can handle such kind of lock, again AFAIK. And should the card end up dead, they can also use it as Tribute fodder.That, or at the very least it could see use in Barrier Statue stun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I vaguely remember this... Was it used in Yuya v Sawatari? Edit: Ahh, nvm. It was the Amazoness Twins. I could see Yosenjus using it to great effect though, hence my initial comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Looks quite good on paper, IMO. Can't True Dracos make effective use of it? AFAIK they don't Special Summon as often so they wouldn't be harmed too much by locking either their Special or Normal Summons, while few other decks can handle such kind of lock, again AFAIK. And should the card end up dead, they can also use it as Tribute fodder.That, or at the very least it could see use in Barrier Statue stun.Pretty much. Their turns are either Tribute Summon-heavy or entirely Special Summons. And they can get rid of it if it inconveniences them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but definitely another floodgate that we needed, I guess?It certainly limits both player's options, but if you're using this, you either are playing something that exclusively relies on one or the other for its Summons.I wanted underworld circle! Edit: In before certain members come and give me a lecture about this, yes, I knew there was no DM in this set, so my hopes were dashed long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I get flak for being negative. Is it ok to be negative?Because this basically says Fusion decks are free to play all they want while everything else can't do anything. But lets be positive guys. "You can't control monsters to activate it :D" There we go :D(No seriously though, sarcasm and jokes aside. Why is this getting printed? Will fusion decks actually use this, i mean in context of the anime it was a fusion user that was using this I guess a better question to ask is.... is there a fusion deck that could fit this in without sacrificing a better option for it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Because this basically says Fusion decks are free to play all they want while everything else can't do anything.I mean... What fusion decks? Not to mention that HERO as well as metalfoe are actually pretty NS reliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I mean... What fusion decks? Not to mention that HERO as well as metalfoe are actually pretty NS reliant.Read the bold at the end. Bold parenthesis at the end = Real thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 (No seriously though, sarcasm and jokes aside. Why is this getting printed? Will fusion decks actually use this, i mean in context of the anime it was a fusion user that was using this I guess a better question to ask is.... is there a fusion deck that could fit this in without sacrificing a better option for it.)Most Fusion decks so far as I'm aware like being able to Normal Summon as a playstarter/consistency deal.Maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Run in PSY-Frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 (No seriously though, sarcasm and jokes aside. Why is this getting printed? Will fusion decks actually use this, i mean in context of the anime it was a fusion user that was using this I guess a better question to ask is.... is there a fusion deck that could fit this in without sacrificing a better option for it.)yes. some fusion decks can use it, but to use it, they'd likely have to re-edit their deck. for example, melodious (not the biggest fusion deck, but still) can normal summon, but are far more special summon reliant, as can masked heroe variants actually, since you can use it, NS a hero, end your turn, and SS the masked version on your opponent's turn. for real meta decks that can use it, paleozoic and infernoid decks have no real need for this, but they can easily drop it to the field and proceed to never give another f*** about it since SS life is all they really know or need outside of floodgates. yosenju were already mentioned, but kaiju hybrids and psy-frames damn ninja'd are also likely contenders for ability to use this. then we have kozmo, who are no longer in the meta, but could probably do the exact same thing as the aforementioned masked hero decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 doesnt this act as a normal summon for special heavy decks, card's powerful but imo still requires a niche like aforementioned True Draco and Psyframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Yeah, really the only Fusion decks that don't need a normal summon are I THINK Lunalights (which are bad) and Fluffal if they get VERY lucky off Vendor (and Link rules murder them plus they still want their normal for Dog). Can Monarchs use this? I know they like to use the Knights, but they can circumvent that with effects that let them tribute Summon on opponents turns, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Huh, quite interesting thing here, limiting yourself by what you do first, obviously Special Summoning is more important, but a lot of Decks play with the idea of having a Normal Summon already. If Tellarknight were still relevant, this would be a pretty good pick against those. This card I can see being used depending on how the format is going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Yeah, really the only Fusion decks that don't need a normal summon are I THINK Lunalights (which are bad) and Fluffal if they get VERY lucky off Vendor (and Link rules murder them plus they still want their normal for Dog). Can Monarchs use this? I know they like to use the Knights, but they can circumvent that with effects that let them tribute Summon on opponents turns, right? But... Link rules don't murder fluffals??? it weakens them because you can't open Bahamut Harbinger, but you can still chain summon, which is the biggest thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 But... Link rules don't murder fluffals??? it weakens them because you can't open Bahamut Harbinger, but you can still chain summon, which is the biggest thing. I did a few casual playtests of my IRL Fluffal Deck (which never relied on crap like Bahamut Harbringer) using Link Rules. It's true, the Deck can still function relatively well most of the time. But then it runs into stupid situations where it's just stuck sitting there, with all the cards and resources needed to overcome a situation or outright win, but can't, because it's not allowed to Summon another Extra Deck monster without using or eliminating the current one. Summoning Sabre Tiger with 3 Materials is suddenly an infinitely dumber move, and bringing out Kraken early game is more or less a necessity so that chain Summoning into Sabre will actually give you a means to out a troublesome opponent's monster. Whenever I ran into a situation like that, I got slightly pissed because of how stupidly arbitrary the restriction was. I suppose the Deck technically has a free slot or two to include a Link Monster, but it's so irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Yeah, I've been thinking about that and how to circumvent it, too, but there not much to do. You just have to devote less intensely until you're going to kill? which leaves you open to killing deck functions, but it is certainly weaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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