Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters During your Main Phase 1: You can Tribute 1 monster; inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Tributed monster's Level on the field x 200. You can only use this effect of "Dark Strike Fighter" once per turn. Removes itself from the EMZ, 1400 Minimum burn, can clear out the EMZ if you re-summon it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Clearing EMZ isn't valuable when you can literally just use it for a link monster, so you are progressing your board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Clearing EMZ isn't valuable when you can literally just use it for a link monster, so you are progressing your board.We don't have Link 2s that are generic currently do we? You'd need to create two more monsters atleast or a link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Convoluted combos to revive your Extra monsters are only going to be viable if they're built into archetype (eg D/D). Clearing out your Extra Zone for the sake of clearing out your Extra Zone will be like running Cheerful Coffin or Wonder Balloons in Infernities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 If you can't follow up with an Extra Deck Summon, you won't want to Summon this; if you can, you may as well use the materials for this card for a Link monster instead and follow up with that Extra Deck play.This card may be good for finishing games, but isn't good for starting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Spades Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Huh, I remember this card being absolutely crazy back in the day as you could burn your opponent to oblivion. You could still make a OTK with this card splashed in a deck that can pendulum summon high level monsters like D/D/D's and burn your opponent for potentially 6100+ damage by tributing 3 D/D/D Doom King Armageddom, any other D/D or D/D/D monster and Dark Strike Fighter itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Huh, I remember this card being absolutely crazy back in the day as you could burn your opponent to oblivion. You could still make a OTK with this card splashed in a deck that can pendulum summon high level monsters like D/D/D's and burn your opponent for potentially 6100+ damage by tributing 3 D/D/D Doom King Armageddom, any other D/D or D/D/D monster and Dark Strike Fighter itself.I mean, part of the reason that this isn't absolutely crazy now is because you can't do what you described. Hard OPT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Removes itself from the EMZ, 1400 Minimum burn, can clear out the EMZ if you re-summon itdude wtf messed up logic is this? you know what else removes DSF from your EMZ? Not summoning it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Spades Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 I mean, part of the reason that this isn't absolutely crazy now is because you can't do what you described. Hard OPT.Shame, obvious degenerate OTK's are what the game needs in order to propel itself to a new era of prosperity and order. Seriously though this card pre-errata was OP asf to the point where I would say this card would still see play and be a 50+ dollar card if it never got an errata, but this is meaningless info so let's move on :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 dude wtf messed up logic is this? you know what else removes DSF from your EMZ? Not summoning it in the first place. 1400 Damage Minimum and you get your shaddoll fusion back. If you can't follow up with an Extra Deck Summon, you won't want to Summon this; if you can, you may as well use the materials for this card for a Link monster instead and follow up with that Extra Deck play.This card may be good for finishing games, but isn't good for starting them.For us, it's a swap of a fusion (el for SDF) and 1400 damage to boot The only Link you want to be summoning is Radiant, which = Math+Naga Convoluted combos to revive your Extra monsters are only going to be viable if they're built into archetype (eg D/D). Clearing out your Extra Zone for the sake of clearing out your Extra Zone will be like running Cheerful Coffin or Wonder Balloons in Infernities. Lv 2 tuner of the deck + lv 5 is convoluted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 MVP in Decade Duels Plus. Not a terrible card, but there's a lot of good 7s now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 1400 Damage Minimum and you get your shaddoll fusion back. If you're Tributing this to remove itself from the EMZ, then you're not tributing an El Shaddoll, are you? And after you Tribute this, how are you getting it back onto the field? CotH? Monsta Reborn? 1400 damage sucks when you could have use that monster to BEAT. Sure, this card may have a spot in some decks that can Synch-7 easily, but only as a "Cowboy for game"-esque thing, not as setup for further combos. Can't even Tribute Link Monsters for actually clearing your EMZ after you've filled all its Linked Zones. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 If you're Tributing this to remove itself from the EMZ, then you're not tributing an El Shaddoll, are you? And after you Tribute this, how are you getting it back onto the field? CotH? Monsta Reborn? 1400 damage sucks when you could have use that monster to BEAT. Sure, this card may have a spot in some decks that can Synch-7 easily, but only as a "Cowboy for game"-esque thing, not as setup for further combos. Can't even Tribute Link Monsters for actually clearing your EMZ after you've filled all its Linked Zones. smhNo, but to summon it you're gonna have to use an El Shaddoll most of the time. See if I want to do more than 1400 damage, I can DSF for 14, get back SDF/ESDF, then do 2600/2200/2700 respectively depending on what I have Reborn is a pretty valuable card, I'd say Soul Charge or maybe Frontline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 No, but to summon it you're gonna have to use an El Shaddoll most of the time.Summon a different Synch-7??? See if I want to do more than 1400 damage, I can DSF for 14, get back SDF/ESDF, then do 2600/2200/2700 respectively depending on what I have.Those values suck. You should be able to OTK. Reborn is a pretty valuable card, I'd say Soul Charge or maybe Frontline.No. Don't waste any of your god damn revive cards on a god damn DSF, unless it's gonna win you the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Lv 2 tuner of the deck + lv 5 is convoluted? Read it again.Convoluted combos to revive it.Clearing your Extra Zone just for the sake of clearing it is bad. If you're doing so you should have a plan to actually make use of that Synchro in your grave. Which you don't, and which Dark Strike Fighter by and large doesn't provide, and the existence of Soul Charge and Monster Reborn doesn't help your argument given that you can use these on almost any Extra Deck monster anyways for probably better returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 No you're right. But I'm not sure that precludes DSF from being a decent run option. The ED goes back to being a toolbox now, and having a burner might not be the worse idea over multiple cards that overlap niches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 No you're right. But I'm not sure that precludes DSF from being a decent run option. The ED goes back to being a toolbox now, and having a burner might not be the worse idea over multiple cards that overlap niches If you can use DSF in a "Cowboy for game" manner reliably (although not being able to do it MP2 hurts a lot), then more power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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