Dream Duels 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Draconus297]

To reboot a game that I can't even find the thread for anymore . . .

 

Each person posts a matchup between characters from the Yu-Gi-Oh anime, manga, and/or video games, and the person below them says who they think the winner would be, and why.

 

(Note: "X wins" is not a valid response. If you don't know the characters, wait for someone who does to respond, or go look them up)

 

Yuya (anime version, as of ep 146- Pals, Pendulum Magicians, and the 4 Dimension Dragons) v. Judai (manga version- the Planet series, manga HEROs [Heat, Lady Heat, Blazeman, Stratos, Ocean, Woodsman, Knospe, Shadow Mist, and Voltic], Omni-HERO, and Masked HERO)

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Given the amount of crap he can spew out at whim lately in the anime, Yuya (and this is further compounded by him grabbing Action Cards). Only stuff Jaden really has is Shadow Mist/Dark Law plays like you'd use IRL. 

 

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Yusei, Jack and Crow vs Kaito [ZEXAL], Yugi and Gongenzaka

 

Conditions:

• Turbo Duel with Speed World 2 up (you can assume that Pendulums do not burn you for 2k every time they activate, but the activation of every other non-Speed Spell Cards WILL incur the damage)
  • Action Cards do not exist (obviously), but assume Kaito/Gongenzaka/Yugi learn how to use Speed Spells efficiently.
• All supports available
  • Team 5Ds have access to everything from 5Ds and beyond [Cosmic Blazar, ARC-V Jack/Crow cards]
  • Kaito has every support card made for Photon/Galaxy/Ciphers
  • Gongenzaka has access to Tetsudou-ou, etc.
  • Yugi has his Magicians / Magnet Warrior stuff.
• Players have separate LP and fields (so if one team mate dies, the others can come in)

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I would've put Yuya in here, but given this is a 5Ds Turbo Duel, he WILL be screwed over hard, even if I remove the 2K LP burn for activating Pendulums because otherwise he needs to use generic support cards, and no lucksacking on Action Cards. 

[Draconus297]

The problem there is that Team 5Ds is cohesive- a trio of Synchro users that can all effectively use one another's resources. Yugi, Gongenzaka, and Kaito don't have much synergy with one another, and would struggle to use one another's resources to combat the sheer onslaught of Synchro Summoning that the enemy team would be capable of. Plus, even ignoring how inconsistent and slow any Deck Yugi touches tends to be, Gongenzaka is going to need to pray that Yusei doesn't bring Nitro Warrior, Junk Gardna, or Junk Berserker to the party, because those three in particular screw with him . . . and that's ignoring the sheer amount of negation in the Team 5Ds arsenal. Kaito, most notably, is anti-Xyz.dek, so really I have no idea why he's here.

 

Team 5Ds takes it.

 

Yuri (composite, with both his anime and manga cards) v. Syrus/Sho (also composite)

 

●Anime/manga versions of effects assumed (Cyberdark Dragon can steal dragons from the opponent's Graveyard and gains 100 per card in both Graveyards, Stealth Union doesn't cut its stats in half to attack, Starve Venom's effect-stealing only works on Level 5 or higher but it gains the ATK of all SS'd monsters, Greedy Venom can banish literally any monster that could ever possibly be used as Material for it to self-rez and burns for stupid amounts of damage)

●Anime-style 4000 LP

[GarlandChaos]

Yuri wins it, easily. His deck is much more consistent, his AniManga card effects are much better than anything Syrus could hope pump out, and neither Syrus nor Yuri have any Main Deck dragons, if I recall. Not even Stealth Union can save Syrus, unfortunately, since it requires so many materials and can be stopped on sight by either Starve Venom or Greedy Venom.

 

Sorry Syrus, but your deck just isn't good. Not even in the show/books.

 

Next Up: Shark/Nash VS. Shay/Shun.

 

Conditions:

>Anime/Manga cards and effects.

>Number monsters have their Anime immunity effects.

>4000 LP duel.

[Draconus297]

(In the anime, Syrus has Dracoroid, a 2800 Machine-Type beater that treats itself as a Dragon on the field and in the Graveyard. Also, Cyberdark Dragon could potentially steal Starving/Greedy Venom from Yuri's Graveyard if either one was already there for whatever reason. Those, plus Barbaroid, Stealth Union, and his brother's Cyber cards he takes in anime Season 4, were the only reasons I thought he might have a chance v. Yuri.)

 

I'm giving this to Shun on one major point: consistency. Both of them have amazing Xyz monsters available to them, and some decent backrow. Shark has the battle-protected anime Numbers, and a wide array of interesting support, but the problem is that he runs too many situational monsters, at too many varied Levels (the worst of which are two copies of Megalodon, Level 8 monsters he only ever uses to support teammates or friends who can R8), to consistently Summon any particular ace except C101 because of The Seventh One. Meanwhile, Shun spams birds almost exclusively at Level 4 and uses varied RUM cards to access bigger bosses. However, it must be said that Shun needs only one to win: Rise Falcon, his favorite R4 bird. Unless Shark specifically Summons Abyss Supra or Black Ray Lancer (which we've established is unlikely), the bird crew can't be stopped on Shun's turn, which is when Captain Falcon likes to have his effects. So, long story short, birds > fish.

 

Xyz v. Synchro!

Yuma and Yuto v. Yusei and Yugo

●Anime versions of effects assumed (Dark Rebellion is an OTK machine, Yuma's Numbers become "you still take the damage", Crystal Wing is even more borked)

●All cards they've used, or canonically own, on the table (Yusei has all 12 Signer dragons, anime and manga versions, plus Quasar and Sifr, and Yuma has all the numbers including both Number C and Number S; Yugo and Yuto can use their manga stuff, and Yuto technically has OERagD but no way to make it)

●Tag Duel, so teams share field space with one another

●8000 LP to compensate

[TF2_The_Scout]

I'm going to give this one to team synchro. Quasar and Crystal Wing have too much negation power for team xyz to play around.

Maximillion Pegasus vs Yusei

To give Pegasus a bit more power, he has the Millenium Eye and the current Toon support. Also, anime effects all around.

[Draconus297]

I'm going to give this to Pegasus for one reason: He can make a lock Yusei can't break. You see, Yusei has no S/T removal whatsoever, which was to increase tension against the Earthbound Immortals and Z-One. In the anime, Toon Kingdom has no cost, and makes Toons immune to targeting effects. Toon Blue-Eyes can't be attacked, except by a Toon, and given that current rulings mean that Yusei can't attack at all, that means he needs a way to blow up Toon Kingdom before he just gets Toon Attacked to death . . . which he can't, because no S/T removal.

 

Oops.

 

Yuri v. Sawatari (this was the only Yu boy Sawatari didn't Duel)

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Assuming that Sawatari is using Abyss Actors, then probably Yuri as Sawatari's monsters are literal Fusion fodder for Starve Venom via Super Polymerization, and the subsequent evolution to Greedy Venom. Of course, if he goes back to Yosenju (and he really should), then probably Sawatari (if he actually plays the version that won in a few tournaments; see Yosenju Stun).

 

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Jack Atlas [5Ds] vs Pegasus vs Yuya

• Standard duel (yeah, I'll give the latter two a break with being screwed over in Speed World)
• Non-Action Duel
• All supports available (so Jack can use ARC-V stuff)
• Printed effects IRL

[Fruiota_Hiroshi]

I feel like Jack would be a bit out of his element without the Speed Counters from Speed World [2]. However, he's still able to Synchro and all of that good stuff, which would throw Pegasus off just slightly (kind of like Yami Yugi and Judai when they saw Yusei bring out "Junk Gardna" in Bonds Beyond Time), assuming he's never actually seen Synchro Summoning. Pegasus would be impressed that both of his opponents can communicate with Duel Spirits, probably, but would overall try to keep his cool. If he has the Millenium Eye, he can see right through everybody's strategies. Yuya wouldn't be familiar with either of them, so he's at a disadvantage, which is made even worse by the lack of Action Spells and the fact that his monsters have no mass. Also, Yuya's Pendulums would confuse both of his opponents initially as well as provide Yuya with an overall advantage, especially since he can use every Summoning method, including Xyz, which would further confuse Pegasus and Jack.

 

I gotta give the win to Yuya after all of that if Pegasus doesn't have the Eye, especially after all the stuff that's happened to his deck recently (such as getting the four Dragons and the stupidly powerful "Performapal Odd-Eyes Synchron" and whatever the Xyz counterpart is).

If Pegasus has the Millenium Eye, then he wins because he can dissect everybody's strategies and take them apart.

 

Yugi Muto / Yami Yugi (as one duelist) (most recent exposition Duel against Kaiba at the World Championships)

vs.

Darkness (GX)

• Note that Yugi has Ebon High Magician.

• Anime effects when applicable, otherwise the rest of the cards use their real life effects.

[Draconus297]

Yugi. Most definitely.

 

You see, the issue with Darkness's primary strategy is that it revolves around backrow. Specifically, two Traps, Zero and Infinity. Yugi is the ONLY PROTAGONIST to run backrow removal by the bucketload- MST, Dust Tornado, Breaker, Dark Magic Attack, et cetera- and as such would likely utterly stomp through Darkness. It doesn't help the manifestation of evil's case that its only respectable boss monster is a 4000 ATK beatstick that acts as a one-time Sakuretsu, and that its monster-stealing card can only steal Fiends (which Yugi has, but none of his bosses are that Type). He's honestly the easiest final villain to beat in the franchise's history.

 

Paradox v. the LDS trio - Hokuto uses Constellars, Yaiba uses X-Sabers, and Masumi uses Gem-Knights, if you've forgotten

 

Anime versions of cards, when possible (Malefics all have the same effects as the monsters they initially were, and you're not limited to one at a time)

The LDS trio shares LP, but not a field

Anime 4000 LP

[Fruiota_Hiroshi]

Not gonna provide an answer for this one, but I like how you took some inspiration from my BBT reference.

[TF2_The_Scout]

I'm going to throw this to the LDS trio. If they were sharing a field, then I'd give it to Paradox, but since they aren't, I would think they would be able to throw down way more field presence than Paradox can keep up with.

 

Paradox Brothers vs Leo and Luna

[Krashkube]

Assuming that the Labyrinth Field or whatever the bros dueled in is active, the Super Paradox Bros. win because Leo and Luna would have no idea how it works, and would most likely lose before they can get anything that can beat over the Wall Shadow or Labyrinth Tank. If the maze isn't on Leo and Luna curbstomp the bros easily unless they're staring down a first-turn Gate Guardian

 

Shark/Nash and Rio/Merag vs. Kite and Dennis

 

- Assume that all their cards have anime effects

- Shark has access to CXyz Barian Hope (even if he can't use it)

- Kite gets all the Galaxy/Photon/Cipher cards

- Dennis gets anime-exclusive Performages

[Draconus297]

I'm giving this to Kite and Dennis because consistency. As mentioned above, Shark doesn't exactly have a consistent Deck, given that he runs monsters of six different Levels, some he can't even use, and Rio isn't exactly a whole lot better in that regard. Meanwhile, Performages literally always have a play they can make, and are an extremely good engine, and also as mentioned above, Kite runs a Deck specifically designed to kill Xyz. There's a reason his one loss in ZeXal was against an opponent that was basically cheating- against Xyz users, he would practically need to he trying to lose. Arc-V really only gives him more options for funzies.

 

Synchro v. Fusion!

Yusei and Yugo v. Yuri and Judai

●Composite versions of all characters, so all anime and manga cards are available, in their unadulterated state (ie, Quasar can OPT negate . . . negation, Chanbara only gets +100, Prisma can copy the name of any monster ever for shits and giggles, Evil HEROs don't have to be Summoned by Dark Fusion, Greedy Venom can banish any DARK monster from your Graveyard to revive itself, etc)

●Tag Duel, so teams share field space and Graveyards

●8000 LP to a team.

[Krashkube]

Yusei and Yugo can win this easily imo. Both Synchro users get stupidly good negation cards in Quasar and Crystal Wing and easy ways to get them out (Anime Clustering Wishes for Yusei, Clear Wing + Redeyed Dice for Fusion Yuugo) and they can also make quick Synchro plays (Speedroids are fastsynchro.dek, while Yusei has all his Synchrons). Yuri's deck is also consistent, and he can use Yusei's DARK monsters to make Starve Venom or revive Greedy Venom, but as stated before the Synchro dudes can just pump out more monsters. Jaden's deck is not consistent at all, and most of his Fusions are either situational (Bubbleman fusions, Neos fusions, Evil Heros), mediocre (manga Dark law, Absolute Zero doesn't do much aside from be a 2800 beater here) or too hard to bring out without Prisma (Divine Neos, Electrum).

 

tl;dr Yusei and Fusion win because consistency

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Tokumatsu (cardian man) vs. Duel Chaser 227 (goyo guy)

 

- Anime effects apply

- 8000 LP

- 227 has Goyo Emperor

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Unless Tokumatsu draws enough into his key cards, DC227 probably wins due to consistency. 

 

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Yusei and Jack vs Yuya and Reiji

• Speed World up (and this means the original one that strips SPC every time you get damaged)
  • Pendulums will not trigger the 2K LP penalty, but everything else WILL trigger the penalty.
• Non-Action Duel
• Yuya and Reiji learn how to play Speed Spells properly
• All supports available.

[Draconus297]

SOMETHING SOMETHING BURN DAMAGE

 

Reiji, in a Speed/Turbo/Riding Duel? Really? This was over before it started. Yusei/Jack wins this so easy it's not even funny, because Dark Contracts kill Señor Keikaku even faster than normal, and then Yuya's all alone against two enemies, one of which can nearly overwhelm him alone.

 

Bonds Beyond ZARC!

Zarc vs. Yugi, Judai, and Yusei

Same conditions as BBT- the time-displaced trio has to share LP and a field.

Anime/manga effects assumed, except in cases where they were buffed IRL (Dark Law most notably).

Yugi has his Heart of the Cheating, Judai and Yusei can spiritually call out to their monsters to always topdeck what they need.

Haouryuu Zarc's anime effects, if you've forgotten: Summon 2 Darkwvrms from the ED OPT, destroy any card searched or drawn outside the Draw Phase, immunity to the effects of Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum monsters for all "Supreme King" monsters while Starving Venom, Clear Wing, Dark Rebellion, and Odd-Eyes Pendulum are banished, you can Special Summon the Servant Dragons during either player's turn, and if there are 15 or more ED cards in the Graveyard it becomes Towers.

[Fruiota_Hiroshi]

Oh, this one's easy. (You sure do like BBT.)

 

Anyway. Zarc gets out his signature monster on the first turn, just like he did in Arc-V, along with Gat Zero, Gate Infinity, and two Darkvrms. Going by the order in BBT, Yusei goes first, only to have his every move countered or even turned against him by Zarc through Trap Cards, Zarc's effect, the Gates' effects that negate damage and heal Zarc, and the Darkvrm's ability to Synchro Summon Clear Wing when Yusei tries to Synchro Summon. Zarc then proceeds with his turn and tries to attack, but Yusei set up some backrow to keep them alive, even if just barely.

Judai is up next, and when he tries to Fusion Summon, Zarc gets out his Starve Venom and basically ruins Judah's entire strategy. Zarc' turn again, and he brings the trio even closer to death, if not all the way there.

It's Yugi's turn now. He does everything he can to bring out Slifer, his signature God Card, and is successful. Additionally, he has at least 3 cards still in his hand, one of which is Pot of Greed (because Yugioh shenanigans). He gets Slifer up to 4000 ATK, but when he tries attacking Zarc, Zarc manages to negate the attack and destroy Slifer somehow (making his own ATK higher?). Then, Zarc wins on the next turn.

 

Tl;dr Zarc keeps the trio on the edge and makes them lose in the end.

 

Tori (ZeXal)

vs.

Yuzu (Arc-V)

• EoS for both

• 4000 LP

• Anime/manga effects when possible

[Draconus297]

Yuzu. No contest.

 

She's notably more competent, has several different ace monsters to go into, does well on the offensive and when defending herself, and Tori can't competently do either, especially since her best monster is Fairy Cheer Girl.

 

For symbolism, let's have usurpers versus kings.

 

Vector/Ray (composite?) and Marik (composite) v. Supreme King Judai (composite) and Jack Atlas (composite)

Anime/manga effects, 16000 LP to a team, Vector can Barian's Chaos Draw when he's losing, the Supreme King always has whatever hand he wants, Jack can topdeck Savior/Majestic Dragon

[Krashkube]

If Vector's numbers have their anime protection effects (can't be destroyed except by other numbers), then they curbstomp SK Jaden and Jack. Even if they don't, Marik can still break out Ra fairly consistently by using Jam Breeding Machine and anime Revival Jam (if he still has those) and can beat over anything with a 15999 body, while Jack's deck is fairly inconsistent and Majestic RDA still can't do anything to the Numbers and Ra. Supreme King Jaden's deck can bring out Evil Heroes consistently, but their effects are meh. 

 

Rex + Weevil vs. Professor Viper (that one GX guy who ran venoms)

- Anime effects on

- Rex and Weevil share a field but not LP

- 4000 LP

[Fruiota_Hiroshi]

Rex and Weevil aren't a very good tag team, not just because of their differing strategies, but also their personalities. They'd constantly ruin each others' plans while Viper gets out his strongest Reptiles and crushes them.

 

Anzu Mazaki

vs.

Honda Hiroto

• anime effects are on

• both know how to use their decks properly

[Mr Dr Professor Spaz]

I'd say Anzu takes this. She was already an at least semi-competent duelist. (And also won during the whole virtual world crap)

 

Zarc vs Don Thousand

 

Broken Deck vs Broken Deck

[Draconus297]

This is the only matchup I'd seriously say depends on where you had it. With the BS powers of Barian World and its Field Spell, Don Thousand would have too much of an early lead on Zarc for him to get his momentum going. Outside of Barian World, Don Thousand's Deck is too much of an unconnected brickfest to accomplish anything in any meaningful way before Zarc overwhelmed him with his own form.

 

I guess I'd give this to Zarc, because it's considerably more likely his coward self, afraid of losing, would never go to challenge someone on their own weird turf. So, essentially, he wins because of his own personality.

 

BIRDS

Crow, Rio/Merag, and Shun in a Battle Royale!

●Anime LP and versions of effects

●Characters don't run doubles of anything unless they're proven to in the anime/manga

[Krashkube]

Don Thousand has THE broken deck to end all broken decks, but SKD Zarc and SKSD Dark Rebellion can just negate and destroy the numeron gates/numerronius. Don Thousand can also search literally anything ever but Zarc negates that.

 

aaaaaaaaaaand ninja'd

 

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Shun wins because consistency. Crow's blackwings deck is too bricky to bring out anything better than Raikiri quickly, and Rio's deck isn't consistent nor is it a bird deck. Shun's Raidraptors can quickly bring out Rise Falcon (and let's be honest that's all he needs here) as well as quickly rank it up into stuff like Revolution Falcon or Satellite Cannon Falcon.

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Reiji vs Kaiba

- Anime effects on

- 8000 LP

- Kaiba gets Obelisk and the stuff he had in DSOD

- Reiji gets Purple Armageddon, White Armageddon, and Dark Armageddon (the new stuff he got in todays episode)

[Chaosix]

Im going to have to go with Reiji on the sole fact that we don't know the full effects of Purple, White and Dark armageddon and might be absolutely broken. Even then, Kaiba's deck is kind of inconsistent, while Reiji's D/D/Ds can do some serious combos as we've seen them do it before. If Kaiba were to get out Obelisk he would stand a chance, but other than that, no.

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Zarc (up to season 4 of arc-v) vs Pegasus (up to season 1 of duel monsters)

-Anime Effects on

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