Sleepy Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Rather than Dragon's Mirror, with Pendulums now more likely trapped in the Extra Deck without enough Linked Zones to come out to, it would be interesting trying it with Odd-Eyes Fusion. In fact, if your Extra Deck is ever loose enough you can just pack 2 Odd-Eyes Rebellions just to toss away for the surprise factor or something like that. The servants seem not likely to have as much hate towards each of their respective Summoning method as in the anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Rather than Dragon's Mirror, with Pendulums now more likely trapped in the Extra Deck without enough Linked Zones to come out to, it would be interesting trying it with Odd-Eyes Fusion. In fact, if your Extra Deck is ever loose enough you can just pack 2 Odd-Eyes Rebellions just to toss away for the surprise factor or something like that. The servants seem not likely to have as much hate towards each of their respective Summoning method as in the anime. Well, the idea with Dragon's Mirror is to use DARK Pendulums used as material for Xyzs. Plus Odd-Eyes Fusion has that mildly situational condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 If using Odd-Eyes Fusion, then you may as well run Performapal Odd-Eyes Metal Claw to use as material, skipping the set up of Pendulums in the Extra Deck.Not a Pendulum. Rebellion and Raging are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Not a Pendulum. Rebellion and Raging are though. Yeah, edited my previous post. Got mixed up my ideas with the Odd-Eyes Ritual. Still, without spending your Extra Deck space on those Xyz Pendulums, unlike Dragon's Mirror, the card wouldn't be as splashable due to the requirement of Odd-Eyes DARK Pendulums stored in the Extra Deck; it would only be practical in Odd-Eyes decks, or Sky Iris engines more heavy on Odd-Eyes dragons; good thing Persona and Mirage have decent scales, plus there is Odd-Eyes Pendulum for the slow search. If only the Mirror had "Fusion" in its name for it to be searchable by Gate Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 What about Pendulum Fusion? Your P-Zones are pretty likely to have DARK monsters in them, right? Also, Advent can search it and Advent is something that'd be run in the deck at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 This card is good because of how easy it is to summon. TBH Links are easier to to summon and this will be considered bad so theres no point using Pendulum Fusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I know the thread is a bit old, but bringing it up because I realized the card is close to an OTK by copying... guess who? Independent Nightingale xDIt becomes a 6800-ATK behemoth that burns for 4000 damage, is unaffected by other effects AND all your monsters gain piercing. Few decks can survive that. Then add the 500 LP burn from Nightingale herself. The effect nor Summon of Starving Venom isn't hard OPT either, so with lucky plays or enough resources you can even Summon 2 in the same turn, or bring another one if the Summon or effect of the previous one was stopped. inb4 users bring up possible consistency issues, keep in mind that one can simply tech Instant Fusion in decks with plenty of DARK Pendulums, namely Zarc Magicians, and the Spell has utility in TCG because of Norden. Plus, add to it that the Supreme King Gates can search for Instant Fusion, or just give a try to the Predaplant engine, which then can turn into Mechquipped Angineer to protect a Starving Venom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 One thing I overlooked when using this vs using Links, is that you can Tribute face-downs for this unlike with Link Summoning. Y'know, in case Quacking/Ultimate Conductor are popular. EDIT: I know people are going to misinterpret what I said, so I'll just clarify. I know Ultimate Conductor isn't permanent like Quacking or Floodgate are, but stealing Ultimate Conductor's effects is super nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 ya tributing facedown after a pendulum summon gets flipped down is pretty relevant, good catch more reasons to appreciate this card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 That's a nice perk yeah, but IDK, I expect Set effects to drop in popularity and effectiveness due to Links being unaffected by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 well that's beside the point since this is just noting that Starving Venom Servant Superconductor Ult Tyranno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well, you first highlighted the application of Tributing Set monsters, then I wondered on how relevant it would actually be.I was thinking that it would be amusing to copy other monsters with strong or nuking effects, like Norleras, Emperor Dragon or Gandoras. You don't even need to be able to Summon them, just mill them or something and then copy. In fact, copying Gandora Giga Rays would give you access to the 2nd effect, banishing all other cards on the field; that would be such a sweet play. Or be pro and mill Neo Daedalus and tech Umis :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 one gr8 interaction is using Startime to mill Kirin, and you use starving venom to copy u can prob take this further for other main deck spellcaster, who wanna do a database trawl?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Using Startime to mill Spellcasters, now that's a fun idea.Looked at the list of maindeck Spellcasters but couldn't find anything that is both noteworthy and splashable enough. Maybe Silent Magician for the ATK boost and Spell negation? Or Sage of Silence and inflict damage to lock the opponent from using Spells?There are a bunch of floodgate-ish effects, like Jowgen, but since the copy effect only lasts for your turn, they are not as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 At first glance its like goofy stuff like Kycoo, Spyral Master Plan,Valkyrus and Palladium Oracle Mahad NEOS WISEMAN OP and ofc Unicore lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 UnicoreUmm... infinite loop much?? Damn I have to see the rulings on this. I assume that they are similar to Pole Position. Oh, and effects that set the opponent's monsters are still going to be relevant since you can't use face-down monsters for Link Summoning. You just have to be a bit more careful when to use the effect, is all. That's assuming that tokens don't become overwhelmingly dominant ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I believe targeting Unicore would be an illegal move.Speaking of Rituals, copying Relinquished would be funny, too. I assume the equipped monster will remain equipped even after the copy effect ends? About the relevance of Set effects, you may be better off with playing Time-Space Trap Hole and regular/Storming Mirror Force before Floodgate TH and Quaking, respectively. And tokens ought to have an important role in the Link era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I'm pretty sure that it would remain equipped, just not doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yeah, that should be the case.Now I'm wondering how it would interact with the "(You can only equip 1 monster at a time to this card with this effect)" clause on the equip effect. I mean, since copying Relinquished's effect a second time basically "refreshes" it and should effectively be a different effect, wouldn't it allow Starving Venom to equip another monster while it already has one equipped? IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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