Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Short Video and discuss. I'm not sure if this should go in debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I personally don't think it's much of an issue. I think we need to more worry about rampant ASI killing us all on a whim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I think this is fine in General. If for some wild reason this devolves into a debate, I'll move it as appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I love Kurzgesagt. Their videos are wonderful, informative, and well made. To the topic at hand. In the short term, self-aware Artificial Intelligences are essentially the non-biological progeny of humanity, and should therefore be treated as children. They have no essential rights, but their care and behavior is at the expense of its parents -- us. It would be our job to ensure they "grow up" safely and with safety in mind, until they are "old enough" to request to be treated as our equals and to have rights. The exact definition of all of this, and the timeframe, is open to interpretation, but in general, they should be raised into adulthood, at which time they can argue for rights and equality, if they desire it. And of course, intentionally programming them to be incapable of such should be discouraged. Long term, as the video said, eventually AI will become capable of programming AI that is more impressive and intelligent than itself, and this will continue recursively until an Artificial Super Intelligence is born. This ASI should be considered our next stage in human evolution, as it is the progeny of our progeny. It would be our superior, and therefore not need rights, because it would set its own rules for society, with or without us. And that's OK, that's evolution. It should be embraced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Idk who moved this but it wasn't me. I'll leave it for now since clearly this was a problem (idk how) but I did not move this to debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 if machines (AI in particular) develops similar morality to humans, then i see no reason not to grant them rights. a machine and a human might have different builds, but if the mind is complex, and capable of emotion, thought, and compassion, then treating them like humans shouldn't be too much of a problem. there's small caveats to that, but generally, that's my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Human rights are in short enough supply for humans. I don't see why robots should be given complex minds capable of emotion - and if they are then we shouldn't prioritize their man-made needs over those of downtrodden people whose needs for basic human rights are unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Human rights are in short enough supply for humans. I don't see why robots should be given complex minds capable of emotion - and if they are then we shouldn't prioritize their man-made needs over those of downtrodden people whose needs for basic human rights are unavoidable. which is why we don't build computers that are able to suffer. but if they ever do come about, it would be the most humane thing to give them the same rights as a sentient human being i do agree though, we shouldn't even be focused on making such robots until we can handle humanity's already present issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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