Darj Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Number 86: Heroic Champion - RhongomyniadAttribute: DARKType: Warrrior/Xyz/EffectRank: 4ATK: 1500DEF: 15002 or more (max. 5) Level 4 Warrior-Type monstersDuring each of your opponent's End Phases: Detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Materials attached to it. ● 1 or more: Cannot be destroyed by battle. ● 2 or more: Gains 1500 ATK and DEF. ● 3 or more: Unaffected by other card effects. ● 4 or more: Your opponent cannot Normal or Special Summon monsters. ● 5: Once per turn: You can destroy all cards your opponent controls. I'm assuming it's because of Nai's title, but I have had this card in my mind for a while and have been wondering if there is some way to exploit it through summoning it with 3~4 materials and re-attaching 1 every turn for the Summon lock. It may sound too much of a stretch but keep in mind Zoodiac Tigress exists to re-attach a material to it, and as a Zoodiac it is relatively easy to splash in, let's say, a Tellarknights or something. Moreover, Invoker is also able to Summon a Level4 Warrior to summon Rhongo if you already have a Zoodiac available. Then, there are RUM or Astral Force shenanigans by Xyz-evolving Phantom Knights Break Sword and Cursed Javelin respectively, while Phantom Knights are Level3s to summon the aforementioned Invoker.With all these ideas something tries to cook up in my mind, but have not been able to materialize or shape it with the form of a deck yet. So, discuss. Do you think a silly variant could show up and wreck havoc in the meta, perhaps once Zoodiacs eventually take enough hits with the banlist? Or is a rogue idea at best, outclassed by other win conditions? Although a perma 4-material Rhongo would be such a strong lock that not even Kaijus can out it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Attaching a material to a card affects the card. 3 makes it unaffected by card effects, so you couldn't attach a material to it while it has 3 or more materials. You're probably better off making this turn 1 as a pseudo-world lock and then OTKing turn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Oh, duh. Bummer. It should only have protected from the opponent's effects.Without the ability to re-attach materials to it, it is not as appealing anymore. Sure, you could invest on a first turn 4~5 material but if Igknights are of any proof, that's not enough to win the big games nowadays. Oh well, better wait for some card that when used as Xyz Material gives the monster a material-attaching effect :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I, the Lion King of Camelot and the Goddess of the Rhongomyniad, feels compelled to enter this thread and comment on this card. It's actually one of my favorite Xyz, although I'm still irritated that there isn't a better deck to utilize this card to its full potential. Pure igknights are terrible and tellarknights are way too obsolete. I imagine that a 5-material Rhongomyniad will still carry the same pressure as it used to be, as it's still immune to Kaijus unlike most hard stop cards. Of course, no deck that actually is good summons this effectively enough for that to be worth it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Oh, duh. Bummer. It should only have protected from the opponent's effects.Without the ability to re-attach materials to it, it is not as appealing anymore. Sure, you could invest on a first turn 4~5 material but if Igknights are of any proof, that's not enough to win the big games nowadays. Oh well, better wait for some card that when used as Xyz Material gives the monster a material-attaching effect :vSorry to figuratively shoot your kneecaps off again, but Sapphire Swallow only gives its effect to Xyz Monsters if it was on the field before the Xyz Summon, like the Digital Bugs instead of the Zoodiacs. A WIND Xyz Monster that was Summoned using this card on the field as Xyz Material gains this effect.● If it is Xyz Summoned: You can target 1 "Lyrical Luscinia" monster in your Graveyard; attach that monster to it as Xyz Material.Also, you would have to make Rhongom WIND without affecting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sorry to figuratively shoot your kneecaps off again, but Sapphire Swallow only gives its effect to Xyz Monsters if it was on the field before the Xyz Summon, like the Digital Bugs instead of the Zoodiacs. Also, you would have to make Rhongom WIND without affecting it Yeah, I edited my reply right after realizing that xDI wasn't fast enough to not be noticed. Another thought I had was to wait until Rhongo has 2 materials, and then attach 2 at once, but the only card to do that so far is a Trap that requires the Xyz to have no material, so, such trick is not possible yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosix Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 *Summons Igknight Paladin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 The concept of Zoodiacs and Rhongo that you made honestly is too far'fetched and unrealistic. If you want to abuse the frick out of this, it's better if it stays in its niche in spammy R4 warrior builds. The best deck I can imagine making this is Igknights to be honest. Satellars can whip this out well, but with options like Batylamus and other utlility R4s, you won't see this often in some situations. Igknights really have nothing else for them left aside from being pure fodder so why not make the wincon this unaffectable 3K summoning locking wall? The day I see Rhongo topping in Zoodiacs against other polished True King/Kaiju/Metalfoe builds is the day Stratos comes off the fricking list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Issue with igknights can be seen by comparing them to Qlis back when they had Towers. Igknights can average a 4 mat Rhongomyniad, but you can just set a card and turtle it. That's because there's generally no Pendulum Summon coming afterwards to kill the opponent despite gaining a free turn; Qlis had the option to pendulum summon quick kill post-Towers which was the sole reason why the deck was even relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosix Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Issue with igknights can be seen by comparing them to Qlis back when they had Towers. Igknights can average a 4 mat Rhongomyniad, but you can just set a card and turtle it. That's because there's generally no Pendulum Summon coming afterwards to kill the opponent despite gaining a free turn; Qlis had the option to pendulum summon quick kill post-Towers which was the sole reason why the deck was even relevant.If your summoning number 86 with the pendulum igknights in igknights then you're doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Why would you quote me saying you're doing things wrong just to rephrase "you're dong things wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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