Bringerofcake Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 WHY IS IT NOT A SPYRAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 smh i told niggas to vote for the buff Spyral dood, but nah muh waifus n shiet xdd smh tbh now look at u thirsty bois u got another cheerful resort staff smh hahaha wouldnt wish this disappointment on worst enemy. Triggers on SS which is gr8 idk if id ever use my normal for this like ever Real talk tho, it works very well in conjunction with agent and the clear reason why Agent's summon is hard opt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 So she abandoned the Cerulean Gym in favour of being a spy now? :: OT: I agree, she'd have been better off as a SPYRAL instead of SPYGAL tbph. I do think it's neat that she triggers on SS in addition to NS though.(Though I'm not surprised this was revealed first tbph) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 SEARCH WITH STARTIME MAGICIAN SPYRAL ZARC 3RD EYE OPEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 So kinda a Kirin for SPYRALs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 SpyGAL?So when are they going to stop making non spyral support for the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 i...i..i dont get it konami...why this is not a SPYRal card how many subtype this archetype has already? probs not as much but mostly neither is really mesh together on the other hand its another checker for Agent that get you cards for your trouble so its nice i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 smh i told niggas to vote for the buff Spyral doodSame tbh :/ Inb4 "guys, we gotta beat Misty" But really though, this feels like it might have better applications outside SPYRALs just because of that generic first effect and it's helpful type/attribute (and lack of a SPYRAL name, of course). Now if only it had 1500 DEF as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Inb4 "guys, we gotta beat Misty"Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Amazing how a single letter can make a card change from a tier-list re-writer to a joke. An effect like that would easily make them a viable threat for at least 1 format... buuuuuut nope, gotta get that pun in there. Also this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I mean, it's nice they make a supporting Kirin for the archetype and they're focusing more on a lore aspect, but this is just getting more shitty tbh, an all it took was one letter to make something a little decent. We get it KoA, I know you made Kozmos, BA, and Kaijus too influential, but this is the complete opposite and arguably worse than UAs. SpyGal is still alright but there's still so much incoherency that I can't see any potential for these last few supports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 MY GAWD. The replies here over 1 letter. Then when the other 3 2 cards end up bringing her into the SPYRAL loop in support like it LIKELY WILL get printed, (and also, I believe Dark Magic Circle is a thing, allegic as people seem to be at paying 1000 for revival that doesn't go into Counter Trap Card masquerading as Extra Decker #230 cause y'know, THAT'S A HEALTHY WAY TO PLAY) we're all gonna pretend guns weren't hella jumped so hard their children'll be born flat- YOU KNOW WHAT. NEVERMIND. After the Ancient Leaf getting a TRIPLE price jump over a f****ing rumor with less grounding than the average tarpit and the number of sites actually trying to hold down this hype being able to be counted on the average Yakuza member's hand, I'm done with this whole Cassandra gig. YOU AND YOUR DEAD-A** WRONG SELVES STAY WRONG. I'M THROUGH TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO THROW AWAY SILVER THEY FIND IN DUMPSTERS CAUSE THEY WERE PANNING FOR GOLD. TO THE CARD. Right now, bouncing Super Agents at instant speed to bounce your opponent's cards smacks of Kaguya. And potentially plus +1ing on Summon seems like a bootlegged Sacred Crane. I do wonder if there's a way to make this Normal Summon not so...space-eating with a Brilliant Fusion build, since a lot of these cards trigger off such a thing. Of course, I may never know this, because anything that isn't Xyz-Summon-5-times-or-bust.dek or CRYSTALWINGTITANICGALAXYROFLCOPTER gets traction. Hell SPYRALs only got a second look cause they pipeline into the Synchro leader of the Eff All Pendulums Club, Naturia Beast. Seriously, though, another vote in for maining Dark Magic Circle in SPYRALS is fine with me. EVERY ONE OF YOU THOUGH, WHO DUNK ON +1 DISRUPTION BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PUT DOWN A NORMAL SUMMON ON IT IN A FORMAT WHERE SERAPHINITE IS IN EVERY OTHER EXTRA DECK AND IT'S MOTHER?! BDS has spoken. (P.S. If your main problem with Cerulean City Gym Leader made Yugioh is that bouncing is thoroughly inadequate unless it hits the things that likely are too quick, too protected or too Pendulumy to stay off the field long...you're the real MVPs and/or I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 MY GAWD. The replies here over 1 letter. Then when the other 3 2 cards end up bringing her into the SPYRAL loop in support like it LIKELY WILL get printed, (and also, I believe Dark Magic Circle is a thing, allegic as people seem to be at paying 1000 for revival that doesn't go into Counter Trap Card masquerading as Extra Decker #230 cause y'know, THAT'S A HEALTHY WAY TO PLAY) we're all gonna pretend guns weren't hella jumped so hard their children'll be born flat- YOU KNOW WHAT. NEVERMIND. After the Ancient Leaf getting a TRIPLE price jump over a f****ing rumor with less grounding than the average tarpit and the number of sites actually trying to hold down this hype being able to be counted on the average Yakuza member's hand, I'm done with this whole Cassandra gig. YOU AND YOUR DEAD-A** WRONG SELVES STAY WRONG. I'M THROUGH TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO THROW AWAY SILVER THEY FIND IN DUMPSTERS CAUSE THEY WERE PANNING FOR GOLD. TO THE CARD. Right now, bouncing Super Agents at instant speed to bounce your opponent's cards smacks of Kaguya. And potentially plus +1ing on Summon seems like a bootlegged Sacred Crane. I do wonder if there's a way to make this Normal Summon not so...space-eating with a Brilliant Fusion build, since a lot of these cards trigger off such a thing. Of course, I may never know this, because anything that isn't Xyz-Summon-5-times-or-bust.dek or CRYSTALWINGTITANICGALAXYROFLCOPTER gets traction. Hell SPYRALs only got a second look cause they pipeline into the Synchro leader of the Eff All Pendulums Club, Naturia Beast. Seriously, though, another vote in for maining Dark Magic Circle in SPYRALS is fine with me. EVERY ONE OF YOU THOUGH, WHO DUNK ON +1 DISRUPTION BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PUT DOWN A NORMAL SUMMON ON IT IN A FORMAT WHERE SERAPHINITE IS IN EVERY OTHER EXTRA DECK AND IT'S MOTHER?! BDS has spoken. (P.S. If your main problem with Cerulean City Gym Leader made Yugioh is that bouncing is thoroughly inadequate unless it hits the things that likely are too quick, too protected or too Pendulumy to stay off the field long...you're the real MVPs and/or I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.) As if you think we all are short-sighted and know no better for an average archetype for some reason you feel is appropriate to go apeshit and use language that an angsty Youtuber would use. A lot of us really like SPYRALs mostly for the lore aspect, because of the designs, attributes, and depicted artworks in the cards. Indeed we were looking very forward to new aspects in the archetype but we kinda knew it wasn't gonna get too high after INOV SPYRAL support hit. One of the main issues were looking at was the lack of coherency; SPYRALs have no clear win condition other than Agent beatdown, and since the release of Resort, we were looking forward to other Agents or anything else that worked with Resort or the rest in order to at least have some synergy. Misty did not aid in consistency, but it is a good tool to still use cause of the Kirin effect. But thinking we're jumping the shark solely cause a letter is hypocritical when you overvalue this card for what it is. It's a decent disruptor for the deck, but it's easy to bait the effect and she doesn't have the best stats to beat over most threats. At most she's a 2-of or even 3, but we can't say a lot anymore yet until we know what can support her, the Agents, and the archetype as a whole. Mostly we want to know that and at this point we might not give a sheet about expectations anymore but to know what else happens in the SPYRAL lore? So what? A letter change means it doesn't meet the standards of: "Xyz-Summon-5-times-or-bust.dek or CRYSTALWINGTITANICGALAXYROFLCOPTER" ? Bullshit. Looks like someone was caught in Blue-Eyes PTSD a format ago or been scarred to hard by Zoodiacs. And Seraphinite in everything? Do you even see any tutorable LIGHTs in an effing Metalfoes deck or even in effing SPYRALs for god sake? Of course it's not gonna be too good. It's honestly getting a lot better with this and Tough compared to Master Plan, but we are not stingy to try to criticize this deck for not being on Kozmo or BA level. And if someone actually don't care at all? Well for some reason I guess you're the only one who's gonna funking care. Sure let some people who had more time on their hands buy out Ancient Leaves. Your complaints will surely impact the YGO market and mindset whereas they've been doing these things in even more worse situations than this. And maybe your complaints might even change the mindset of a freaking gimmick archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 As if you think we all are short-sighted and know no better for an average archetype for some reason you feel is appropriate to go apeshit and use language that an angsty Youtuber would use. A lot of us really like SPYRALs mostly for the lore aspect, because of the designs, attributes, and depicted artworks in the cards. Indeed we were looking very forward to new aspects in the archetype but we kinda knew it wasn't gonna get too high after INOV SPYRAL support hit. One of the main issues were looking at was the lack of coherency; SPYRALs have no clear win condition other than Agent beatdown, and since the release of Resort, we were looking forward to other Agents or anything else that worked with Resort or the rest in order to at least have some synergy. Misty did not aid in consistency, but it is a good tool to still use cause of the Kirin effect. But thinking we're jumping the shark solely cause a letter is hypocritical when you overvalue this card for what it is. It's a decent disruptor for the deck, but it's easy to bait the effect and she doesn't have the best stats to beat over most threats. At most she's a 2-of or even 3, but we can't say a lot anymore yet until we know what can support her, the Agents, and the archetype as a whole. Mostly we want to know that and at this point we might not give a sheet about expectations anymore but to know what else happens in the SPYRAL lore? So what? A letter change means it doesn't meet the standards of: "Xyz-Summon-5-times-or-bust.dek or CRYSTALWINGTITANICGALAXYROFLCOPTER" ? Bullshit. Looks like someone was caught in Blue-Eyes PTSD a format ago or been scarred to hard by Zoodiacs. And Seraphinite in everything? Do you even see any tutorable LIGHTs in an effing Metalfoes deck or even in effing SPYRALs for god sake? Of course it's not gonna be too good. It's honestly getting a lot better with this and Tough compared to Master Plan, but we are not stingy to try to criticize this deck for not being on Kozmo or BA level. And if someone actually don't care at all? Well for some reason I guess you're the only one who's gonna funking care. Sure let some people who had more time on their hands buy out Ancient Leaves. Your complaints will surely impact the YGO market and mindset whereas they've been doing these things in even more worse situations than this. And maybe your complaints might even change the mindset of a freaking gimmick archetype. Sigh... weird thing is, you're hella right. (And to set the record straight, it's actually the wrong end of four back to back True Dino decks that sparked this. Jeez, whoulda thought? Sorry for the heightened mouth-froth. Really, I've normally had issues with stuff liek this and gotten over it-its just looking at this and thinking about all the people back when who 1) laughed me out of the room for trying to point out how slleeper cards like Rescue Cat and Rekindling would eventually be more than some niche madness (and this was in the pre-Synchro era, not counting Xyzes), then having them scoop only months later to Brionac and Dark Strike thereafter. Just feels like so much good cards are being shafted-and good Archetypes being destroyed (coughSuperQuantalscough) cause of niche cards, and thus anything that isn't Kozmo level gets unnecessary flak for otherwise overlookable faults. Let me be clear. I happen to love SPYRALs, think they're some of the most flavorable non-Normal Monsters running today-hell I wouldna spent BlaDeS of change real estate on making good rivals for 'em otherwise. Just got caught at a raw Vietnam flashback moment. My bad. Am suprised Brilliant SPYRAL aint getting more play though, considering all the Normal Summon triggers. They're RIGHT THERE, folks. ....think that's it. Ain't trying to move the Yu-Gi-Oh community on this-heaven knows I'm not THAT important. Really, its the lack of change that might occur if this ends up being a sleeper card a la Shino (the tuner) got this started up. Apologies for the sperging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 brilliant fusion is still a fair point, but there are other avenues such as a pendulum summon im like half serious about the ZARC spyral deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sigh... weird thing is, you're hella right. (And to set the record straight, it's actually the wrong end of four back to back True Dino decks that sparked this. Jeez, whoulda thought? Sorry for the heightened mouth-froth. Really, I've normally had issues with stuff liek this and gotten over it-its just looking at this and thinking about all the people back when who 1) laughed me out of the room for trying to point out how slleeper cards like Rescue Cat and Rekindling would eventually be more than some niche madness (and this was in the pre-Synchro era, not counting Xyzes), then having them scoop only months later to Brionac and Dark Strike thereafter. Just feels like so much good cards are being shafted-and good Archetypes being destroyed (coughSuperQuantalscough) cause of niche cards, and thus anything that isn't Kozmo level gets unnecessary flak for otherwise overlookable faults. Let me be clear. I happen to love SPYRALs, think they're some of the most flavorable non-Normal Monsters running today-hell I wouldna spent BlaDeS of change real estate on making good rivals for 'em otherwise. Just got caught at a raw Vietnam flashback moment. My bad. Am suprised Brilliant SPYRAL aint getting more play though, considering all the Normal Summon triggers. They're RIGHT THERE, folks. ....think that's it. Ain't trying to move the Yu-Gi-Oh community on this-heaven knows I'm not THAT important. Really, its the lack of change that might occur if this ends up being a sleeper card a la Shino (the tuner) got this started up. Apologies for the sperging. It's better just to ignore those ignorant people who think only on that one path of "that if it doesn't meet the standard of X deck is automatically trash". Long story short, if you wanna make SPYRALs good. stick with it and keep at working with it. Things die out due to popularity but learning to improve is the first step to go against criticism and create a decent build. I just saw the rest of the support and it's safe to say that they're pretty manageable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraneMonk Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Think I know why it's not a SPYRAL. (Probably has something to do with the archetype lore.) Also the way she is in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Think I know why it's not a SPYRAL. (Probably has something to do with the archetype lore.) Also the way she is in this. So, this plus her Attribute could mean... Double Agent/Mole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Given that she returns Super Agent to the hand (taking him temporarily out of commission in a way he might come back stronger), I think she's a vaguely friendly rival spy. Ergo, not part of SPYRAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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