The Frost King Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I say this card is one of the best Tuners around, but I think it's effect is a bit OP (for example, this card could destroy Blue-Eyes White Dragon by battle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Destroy Blue-Eyes by battle?!? THE Blue-Eyes White Dragon?!? Should we ban it OP? Jesus 2016 lay off the power creep It's seen some side play actually since it doesn't activate. You could take out Crystal Wing or Exterio in battle for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frost King Posted December 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Destroy Blue-Eyes by battle?!? THE Blue-Eyes White Dragon?!? Should we ban it OP? Jesus 2016 lay off the powercreep It's seen some side play actually since it doesn't activate. You could take out Crystal Wing or Exterio in battle for example I don't mean that Blue-Eyes is the best monster ever, I'm just saying that it can effect and help take down a lot of high ATK monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Although it could have been worded less aggressively, Winter is correct in that your application of the card isn't the best. Blue-Eyes White Dragon is not a problem card, and it's definitely not one of the best tuners out there. It has limited side deck usage and is overall a lackluster card. The only time I think it had value was when Apoqliphort Towers was a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 To be fair, now that I looked at it, this card is surprisingly strong ATK-wise while it applies its effect. I mean, despite affecting itself, as a Level3 with an outstanding ATK of 1600 (for a Level3), it ends up 700 ATK while most monsters most likely end with less. For instance, Level4s with their standard 1600~1800 end up with 600, barely losing to this card; and of course higher Levels/Ranks get higher reductions. Still, low-Rank Xyz can run over it, and yeah, beaters are not good enough in nowadays YGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 eh... it affects not very good really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Generic Towers out :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I don't mean that Blue-Eyes is the best monster ever, I'm just saying that it can effect and help take down a lot of high ATK monsters.It's more the fact you were so close. The 3k attack Dragon you're looking for is Crystal Wing or maybe Azure Eyes, not BEWD. Sorry, dolphin is right, I came off more condescending than you merited. There was no reason for me to be that acrimonious It's a very good card though in the niches it solves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Huh...this does look at least...usable. It's definitely not trash. Wyrm has some good support (mostly Yang Zings from my recollection, but I'm a bit out of the loop), being a Tuner gives it a little extra. Level 3 is a solid enough Level. 1600 ATK is excellent for its level. And what's this? An actually GOOD ATK/DEF reduction effect? It saps 300 x Level/Rank, which is great that Xyz aren't immune because SO many cards are actually judged negatively on the merits of "It doesn't affect Xyz"...which is a legit complaint. So on the average monster, it'll sap about 900-1500 ATK/DEF for nothing. Only major downside I see is that this also affects itself. It drains its own ATK/DEF by 900, meaning it's only a 700 ATK monster. It doesn't really merit play, but I think Wyrm focused and/or Synchro focused decks could get a little mileage out of this...but since it affects your own monsters, too...hmmm...that becomes the major issue, doesn't it? With such a potent ATK/DEF draining tool, you can't really capitalize on it to any significant degree, because it reduces your own monsters. That means the best thing it can do is weaken something, maybe run it over, and then Synch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 I wish venom swamp killed anything with 0 attack, then we could just NS this and play venom swamp + burden of the mighty and just cheese wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Daily reminder that Paleozoics don't need their Normals and all come with TANKY AF 1.2k beatstickingAnomalo and Opabinia might as well be immune to battle with their insurmountable 2.4ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 It's basically a continuous wightprincess SO SKULL SERVANTS WOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 I think this is a tad bit better, even if it's a little less generic: it doesn't affect itself and has greater value as a floater imo. It's also R4NK food so it not being a Tuner doesn't hurt it that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Daily reminder that Paleozoics don't need their Normals and all come with TANKY AF 1.2k beatstickingAnomalo and Opabinia might as well be immune to battle with their insurmountable 2.4ksif only it wasn't so terrible in the mirror match ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frost King Posted December 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Okay then, here is some cards that can be taken down by battle with this card: Lunalight Leo Dancer/Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon/Red Dragon Archfiend/Etc. Also, if you add Burden of the Mighty and King Tiger Wanghu to the mix then it gets really OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 aww thanks! I've been struggling for an out to the original RDA for a while now :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLASTERZ Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yo that card looked like that pokemon i dont know what it name is but it had like 12 diff forms i think its called murpheon or somethin like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yo that card looked like that pokemon i dont know what it name is but it had like 12 diff forms i think its called murpheon or somethin like thatEevee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Has anyone noticed that "illumni'raj" was the OCG name? Let the conspiracies commence (i'm joking, i dont believe in that s***) On the subject of the actual use of the card in the game, It's decent at times. I would agree that Night Dracolich might do the job better though if you can work with a Level 4 tuner rather than a lv 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frost King Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Has anyone noticed that "illumni'raj" was the OCG name? Let the conspiracies commence (i'm joking, i dont believe in that s***) On the subject of the actual use of the card in the game, It's decent at times. I would agree that Night Dracolich might do the job better though if you can work with a Level 4 tuner rather than a lv 3 Um, Night Dracolich is not a Tuner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 It also gets rid of Defence, not Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 It also gets rid of Defence, not Attack.Al-Lumi'raj gets rid of both EDIT: ohh, you're talking about Night Dragolich. Well that thing also switches them to defence position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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