Transcendental Fusion (MACR)

[Blake]

You can't use Miracle Fusion to make Starve Venom. Also Miracle Fusion requires that you get the materials in grave, so you'd either have to Synchro or make your Xyz be something that detaches both, like Castel.

 

Ok, fair enough. It's true that Starve Venom isn't great, but I don't see why a better Fusion monster wouldn't make this card more viable. Imagine this in something like Shaidollons.

 

EDIT: Imagine making Norden with this..

That... you missed the point.

 

The logic you use with this card is similar to that of a Miracle Fusion. It's a power card you use to get a boss, but likely don't devote more than 1 ED slot, which requires some form of setup to do. Generally made with 2 cards.

 

You can run this in place of Miracle Fusion in certain places, such as to make Dragonecro. And it's technically more lucrative, albeit worse on the topdeck by far.

 

The issue is that the Fusion decks that exist don't need/want this, because they can already do it better without threatening dead draws.

 

Making norden with this is value, but isn't it a bit overkill by that point, especially considering you revive 0/0 vanillas?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

That... you missed the point.

 

The logic you use with this card is similar to that of a Miracle Fusion. It's a power card you use to get a boss, but likely don't devote more than 1 ED slot, which requires some form of setup to do. Generally made with 2 cards.

 

You can run this in place of Miracle Fusion in certain places, such as to make Dragonecro. And it's technically more lucrative, albeit worse on the topdeck by far.

 

The issue is that the Fusion decks that exist don't need/want this, because they can already do it better without threatening dead draws.

 

Making norden with this is value, but isn't it a bit overkill by that point, especially considering you revive 0/0 vanillas?

Depends on what you use to make norden, if you use something like 

 

 

You start racking up the +'s

[Neochu-H]

it lets you Fusion Summon and Synchro Summon with the same 2 monsters, while avoiding the awkward simultaneous Synchro and Fusion Summon gimmick that might throw up some odd rulings. So "not even close" is an exaggeration to say the least. This is likely the closest we'll get to Underworld Resonance, and in reality the two cards do almost the exact same thing, with Transdental being just slightly more flexible.

 

EDIT: Actually quite a lot more flexible, not slightly more.

 

odd rulings? its just summoning two monsters at once which many cards do already

and this card is terrible

[The Highlander]

and this card is terrible

Would you mind explaining your opinion or at least presenting an argument ?

[Toffee.]

They get banished for zarc, and this only revives from the grave

Knowing that Zarc is a Fusion, I highly doubt that it will say "DURRR CAN ONLY BE PLAYED THROUGH ASTRO/CHRONO; CUZ funk YOU".

[notcleverusername]

Knowing that Zarc is a Fusion, I highly doubt that it will say "DURRR CAN ONLY BE PLAYED THROUGH ASTRO/CHRONO; CUZ f*** YOU".

Still reasonable chance it uses more than 2 mats (1 Synchro Dragon + 1 XYZ Dragon + 1 Fusion Dragon + 1 Pendulum Dragon) tho, which would still invalidate this

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That... you missed the point.

 

The logic you use with this card is similar to that of a Miracle Fusion. It's a power card you use to get a boss, but likely don't devote more than 1 ED slot, which requires some form of setup to do. Generally made with 2 cards.

 

You can run this in place of Miracle Fusion in certain places, such as to make Dragonecro. And it's technically more lucrative, albeit worse on the topdeck by far.

 

The issue is that the Fusion decks that exist don't need/want this, because they can already do it better without threatening dead draws.

 

Making norden with this is value, but isn't it a bit overkill by that point, especially considering you revive 0/0 vanillas?

Aha I see your point there. Out of interest, what Miracle Fusion(s) specifically are you referring to?