Blake Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Leo isn't even that bad. It just requires Saw, which is heavily outclassed and generally not worth running. It's a Volcasaurus, which again, isn't even that bad.It kinda is.Targets.SINGLE target.Requires bad card to summon it.Harder to summon than a card with a similar purpose (Kraken), and that card is more versatile and reusable.Cannot be Special Summoned, bar its Fusion Summon, meaning it's essentially an "end of the line" fusion... Which the deck doesn't want to make unless they're really strong (Dragostapelia, for example).Level isn't 8, despite the fact it's an end of the line, meaning it is, again, worse than Kraken.Having some decent burn doesn't change these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 It bothers me how generic this is, like Sabers+Poly? That's grounds for throwing this guy into Dark Heros, free allure and twin target, that you can make leviar and Trish off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 i love this deck so much This isn't a common opening, but funk if it isn't solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 i love this deck so much This isn't a common opening, but funk if it isn't solid.That sorta field is why YGO isn't fun anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 IDK, making it was pretty fun to me. And it's thanks to the, more or less, win button that is Patchwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 IDK, making it was pretty fun to me. And it's thanks to the, more or less, win button that is Patchwork.I start 2 cards down, 1 spell, 1 anything Then you can negate any of my monster effects so I start, say, 3 cards down you have game next turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I start 2 cards down, 1 spell, 1 anything Then you can negate any of my monster effects so I start, say, 3 cards down you have game next turn yes exactly except that Frightfur Tiger tends to beat those fields, because of how Fluffals work, so i'm playing a deck that naturally outs that sort of thing... Except Dragostapelia, that requires a bit of bullshitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 yes exactly except that Frightfur Tiger tends to beat those fields, because of how Fluffals work, so i'm playing a deck that naturally outs that sort of thing... Except Dragostapelia, that requires a bit of bullshitting.It's just very hard for decks like say Tellars or Shaddoll or even Nekroz to deal with, when they have to put up with that kinda sheet I thought Konami learned their lesson about T1LF after pepe, apparently not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 "Learned their lesson." Enough with that rhetoric, this is clearly intentionally designed for the chuuni within. If you don't like it anymore, it's not a reason to fault them as they've never cared about a balanced game. You could argue that "they're losing players," but thats literally not the case. You're complaining about an image/field that comes up when the stars align when in actuality you are usually facing half of those threats at a time (still strong, but fluffals seriously lmao? Using meme rhetoric like "dice roll" that brings nothing new to the table smh) which I'd say plenty manageable given you arent playing some nerd normal summon deck. This isnt really a conversation people should having regarding this card, so I have nothing else to say other than you've made your point thay you don't think ygo is fun, therefore you dont need to spend more time talking about the number one mpst obvious fact that ygo is hella unbalanced Re: chain links with Tiger, I realized in TCG we won't be able to do that. Construct was always the final chain link as we order chain links in the order they were triggered in, (fuse from hand/field and sent to the grave happens before Tiger's summon) so tiger ends up always being able to get hit by Strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I wonder if this card along Chain as an engine can be effective with Eidolons. I mean, play this, fetch your Poly and Chain, Fusion Summon using Aleister and Chain to drop Caligula and search another copy of this, and chances are you still have the Summoning Magic searched by Aleister.And the question is more on if it's worth it because surely it can work, but there may be better plays to make with Eidolons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Re: chain links with Tiger, I realized in TCG we won't be able to do that. Construct was always the final chain link as we order chain links in the order they were triggered in, (fuse from hand/field and sent to the grave happens before Tiger's summon) so tiger ends up always being able to get hit by Strike.i always forget this is even a thing, because it makes no sense to have that in a game with timings that line-up like that. Even if the Penguin/Octo/etc. effects are technically earlier in proccing. Deck is nowhere near good without Tiger's ability to shred things, so I'm gonna just act like this isn't a thing for now 8D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 i always forget this is even a thing, because it makes no sense to have that in a game with timings that line-up like that. Even if the Penguin/Octo/etc. effects are technically earlier in proccing. Deck is nowhere near good without Tiger's ability to shred things, so I'm gonna just act like this isn't a thing for now 8D The TCG still follows that, but otherwise properly follows the SEGOC rules? Hm, I also forgot that's a thing. The Deck is still amazing, because Tiger still shreds things. It's just that the opponent has an easier time stopping the shredding process, and I think Fluffals can still recover from that due to the advantage generating. They can just stack a card for Sabres' revival, and try again with another Fusion. Yes, it's another step and slows down their major plays, but I don't imagine it being the absolute end of the world. Then again, I'm ignoring contexts where you have Field lock effects like your screenshot board, as Tiger WOULD shred that in an instant with the OCG rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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