Premier Alexander Romanov Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 https://ygorganization.com/rolling-around-at-the-speed-of-sound/PP19-JP003 SRドミノバタフライ Speedroid Domino ButterflyWIND/Machine/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect/Level 2/100 ATK/300 DEFScale 8You cannot Pendulum Summon monsters, except WIND monsters. This effect cannot be negated. You can discard a WIND monster, then target 1 of your banished WIND monsters; Add that target to your hand. You can only use this effect of “Domino Butterfly” once per turn.This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material, except for the Synchro Summon of a WIND Dragon-Type or Machine-Type monster. If this card that was special summoned from the Extra Deck is used for a Synchro Summon, banish it. So, not only are we getting Premium Pack 19, but also this guy in it.Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 ... What ... the ... actual ... I can understand them being somewhat afraid of Pendulum Tuners, however this card is pushing it to a new level. And while its scale and Pendulum Effect are decent (at least something) this is nothing the archtype would really bother using as of ... (remembers this the only speedroid level 2 and while 3 is better for crystal wing plays that does not mean using it with hagoita for clear wing (any of both) is rather cute) ... come to think of it it might be worth something (unlike passin) as a recycling tool and an emergency hagoita target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I agree the restrictions are a bit much, but if nothing else you can now Pendulum Summon Fast Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 What's nice is that it's not jyst restricted to the archetype. And nice; another Pendulum Tuner monster. However, one problem I have with it is the Scale. Sure, it's a nice big Scale, but then how do you go about Pendulum Summoning this card? Passinglider is Scale 3 and Clear Wing Fast Dragon is Scale 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I agree the restrictions are a bit much, but if nothing else you can now Pendulum Summon Fast Dragon. Sadly that requires passin or a second fast dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Well well well, isn't this an awesome card? For a start, it's a Level 2 Speedroid Tuner, something they kinda wanted. The restriction on what it can used for hurts it quite a lot, especially since it locks out Winter Bell, but it's perhaps the only bad thing about the card, and there's better stuff you can do if you have a Level 5 non-Tuner. Being a Pendulum means that it is significantly less dead in hand then other Tuners. However, what really sets this card apart is the Pendulum Effect. Holy shizzle, that is some sweet sheet you have there. It sets up your Grave without technically costing advantage (although you could view activating it in the scale as a -1), and provides more motivation for banishing with Kendama than Leviair could ever achieve. The Pendulum mechanic helps here, allowing an effect that might otherwise be difficult to rely on if it was a Spell (difficult to search) to not use up a Monster Zone (which would block Terrortop). I do however, have 2 somewhat major concerns about this card, which are both dependant on the future card pool:We need an actual Scale 1 to Pendulum Summon this, because it being stuck in the Extra Deck is much worse than it getting banished. Passing Rider requires you to go -1 just to unlock something you should already have access to, so it doesn't count here.The Pendulum Summon probably has the most potential (in Speedroids) when used in conjunction with Kendama's self-Summon effect, as that stops your Normal Summon for that turn. We all know that Pendulum decks are generally a lot less Normal Summon reliant than your typical deck (save perhaps for triggering Skullcrobat, which sort of equates to Yoyo here). I'd like to see a reliable method of removing my own Speedroid Pendulum scales (preferably return to hand!) to really abuse Kendama.This card in general makes Kendama a lot better, because 2+6=8 and because of the whole banishing thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Scale 8 for WINDs? Time to make this work in Yosenju! As for Speedroid, well it has some annoying restrictions, but it also has a lot of neat things going for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Scale 8 for WINDs? Time to make this work in Yosenju! As for Speedroid, well it has some annoying restrictions, but it also has a lot of neat things going for it as well.You already have the Metalfoes, which are scale 8s for everything. What's special about Butterfly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Let's be honest here.We're not really going to use it as a tuner outside of really specialized builds as level 2 is hilariously awkward for pure Speedroids (they'd appreciate a level 4 tuner though) which makes its relevant effect the pendulum effect, which is already covered by Recovery. Pendulum Summoning Fast Dragon is irrelevant, as it puts itself into the pendulum scale when it dies, where it can re-summon itself anyway. tl;dr good card, supporting wrong deck at this time. It has vast potential though. Will depend on how many other Speedroid pendulums we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Damnit, they had to add a WIND restriction. There goes trying to use it in Vehicroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 You already have the Metalfoes, which are scale 8s for everything. What's special about Butterfly?I like having my things be one kind, I don't even see how Metalfoes would fit in that Deck anyway. And this is a Tuner, so that's a thing you an do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 ... What ... the ... actual ... I can understand them being somewhat afraid of Pendulum Tuners, however this card is pushing it to a new level. And while its scale and Pendulum Effect are decent (at least something) this is nothing the archtype would really bother using as of ... (remembers this the only speedroid level 2 and while 3 is better for crystal wing plays that does not mean using it with hagoita for clear wing (any of both) is rather cute) ... come to think of it it might be worth something (unlike passin) as a recycling tool and an emergency hagoita target.Y'all sleepin on my boi Denglong from the Long Dong Clan 100 emoji ok emoji All things considered this is probably a good card because you can grab back TOONERS and loop denden, if summoning Fast Dragon doesn't tickle your fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Gretchen Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 (( I feel like this has a lot of potential. Especially with that Scale. Though is this the first Level 2 Tuner for Speedroids? )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Yes, it is the first level 2 tuner for speedroids.So far, they've all been levels 1 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Did they really need a "Banish this if summoned from the extra" clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I feel like they're just futureproofing it with the restrictions, because the manga is still going, and Yugo is sure to keep using Speedroid Pendulums in said manga, so we're bound to get more of them, and it's best to start things off with a mediocre or restrictive archetype Pendulum Tuner that will inevitably be outclassed later on, as opposed to giving a Deck with future support somewhere on the horizon something so good that it'll be Performapal Pendulum Sorcerer all over again, but with Speedroids or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Did they really need a "Banish this if summoned from the extra" clause?for a deck with so few Pendulums, this clause makes it better. I don't want my tuners locked in the extra deck. The harsh part is the restrictions on what it can be used for. And yes, it does need it, because any Pendulum.dek with a scale 1 can just tech 1 or 2 of this and summon a free Clear Wing/Crystal Wing/Stardust every turn. This card also gets much better as its pool expands, which it will do with time (unlike Luster Pendulum who only has 1 Synchro which is now Limited). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 for a deck with so few Pendulums, this clause makes it better. I don't want my tuners locked in the extra deck. The harsh part is the restrictions on what it can be used for. And yes, it does need it, because any Pendulum.dek with a scale 1 can just tech 1 or 2 of this and summon a free Clear Wing/Crystal Wing/Stardust every turn. This card also gets much better as its pool expands, which it will do with time (unlike Luster Pendulum who only has 1 Synchro which is now Limited).Fair enough. Some of the Speedroid cards can get back banished stuff so it ends up working out anyways (I can only remember Chanbarider as one of those cards, haven't looked at many recently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Fair enough. Some of the Speedroid cards can get back banished stuff so it ends up working out anyways (I can only remember Chanbarider as one of those cards, haven't looked at many recently) Recovery is the only other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 So, is no one invested in the fact that this as a scale gets back banished copies of itself at the cost of a discard? I mean, it'd be easier to Leviair, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Recovery is the only other one.Speed Recovery? That Special Summons from Grave and adds back from Grave Some of the Speedroid cards can get back banished stuff so it ends up working out anyways (I can only remember Chanbarider as one of those cards, haven't looked at many recently)You have (from worst to best) Chanbara, Leviair and now this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Speed Recovery? That Special Summons from Grave and adds back from Grave You have (from worst to best) Chanbara, Leviair and now this card.I think i severely underestimated this card :/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Wait, Recovery is from the /graveyard/? That makes the pendulum effect of this card vastly more useful then. Okay, I can dig this then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 What's nice is that it's not jyst restricted to the archetype. And nice; another Pendulum Tuner monster. However, one problem I have with it is the Scale. Sure, it's a nice big Scale, but then how do you go about Pendulum Summoning this card? Passinglider is Scale 3 and Clear Wing Fast Dragon is Scale 4. S'like everyone forgot Passinglider's Pendulum effect already. Drop another Domino Butterfly or Level 2 monster, and you can Pendulum Summon this easy. Really, SPG's STILL the real MVP in this Pendulum duo-lets it be ANY SCALE IT WANTS TO BE WITH THE HELP OF 1 DISCARD. People are not getting how good this is, especially on a Level 5 MACHINE that SUMMONS ITSELF,and can Summon another one of itself on Tribute Summon (sure it requires some Graveyard trickery, which Domino Butterfly can easily do.) Or use Hagoita or Chanbara alongside this. Shouldn't have to spell out what Passlinglider gives Speedroids access to now that you should all be wary about. And it's not even a Synchro. coughCyDraInfinitycough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 S'like everyone forgot Passinglider's Pendulum effect already. Drop another Domino Butterfly or Level 2 monster, and you can Pendulum Summon this easy. Really, SPG's STILL the real MVP in this Pendulum duo-lets it be ANY SCALE IT WANTS TO BE WITH THE HELP OF 1 DISCARD. People are not getting how good this is, especially on a Level 5 MACHINE that SUMMONS ITSELF,and can Summon another one of itself on Tribute Summon (sure it requires some Graveyard trickery, which Domino Butterfly can easily do.) Or use Hagoita or Chanbara alongside this. Shouldn't have to spell out what Passlinglider gives Speedroids access to now that you should all be wary about. And it's not even a Synchro. coughCyDraInfinitycoughLet me start by stating that you're almost completely wrong here.Now let me back this statement up. Passinglider can only Summon Level 4 or lower Speedroids, so it can't summon another copy of itself. With this in mind, you're going to have to find some other method of fielding the other Level 5 machine if you want that sweet sweet CDI. However, Speedroids already can make CDI without Passinglider.Have Red-Eyed Dice in grave and Terrortop in hand. ok, ok I'll grant you can do loads of amazing things with this setup, but the point stands. SS Terrortop Activate Terrortop's effect Opponent chains Compulse, targeting Terrortop Resolve Terrortop, searching Double Yoyo SS Terrortop again NS Yoyo, effect targeting Red-Eyed Dice. Red Dice summon. Use its effect to make Terrrrortop Level 5 Synchro Summon Yoyo + Dice into your choice of these http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Ask?q=%5B%5BClass+1%3A%3AOfficial%5D%5D+%5B%5BCard+type%3A%3AMonster+Card%5D%5D+%5B%5BCard+type%3A%3ASynchro+Monster%5D%5D+%5B%5BLevel%3A%3A5%5D%5D+%5B%5BType%3A%3AMachine%5D%5D&p=format%3Dtable%2Flink%3Dall%2Fsearchlabel%3D...-20further-20results%2Fclass%3D-20sortable-20wikitable-20smwtable-20card-2Dlist&po=%3FMonster+type%3DMonster+subtype%0A%3FType%3D%5B%5BType%5D%5D%0A%3FStars+string%3D%5B%5BLevel%5D%5D%2F%5B%5BRank%5D%5D%0A%3FATK+string%3D%5B%5BATK%5D%5D%0A%3FDEF+string%3D%5B%5BDEF%5D%5D%0A&limit=500&eq=no Overlay Musashi/Ametrix/Chanbara/Hagoita into Nova Stop hereThis is a +1 CDI (assuming you used Musashi or have a banished Speedroid for Chanbara to grab back whenever it gets detached) that requires Terrortop in hand and Red-Eyed in grave and uses your Normal Summon. Can you do better using Passinglider? Now, let's address the idea of Passinglider being good in the Pendulum Zone. It's not. You don't get to make itANY SCALE IT WANTS TO BEbecause it can be a minimum of 1 (still not allowing you to Pend summon Red Eye) and a maximum of 6. Woooooo! Much worse it basically requires that you discard send to grave (relevant because it means you can't use a Butterfly on field), should you wish to Pendulum Shokan your best monsters, the Level 3s. I'd rather put Kirin in the scale. Metalfoes just get a scale 1. They don't have to work for it. They also get a constructive (destructive, geddit) Pendulum effect, unlike Passinglider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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