[RESULTS ARE FINAL] 2016 Election for President of the United States | Donald Trump Victory

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

keep doing what you're doing kid

We're gonna have so much fun on the 9th love

[Sunshine Jesse]

Do you even understand the gravity of what he's saying?

 

Do you?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Do you even understand the gravity of what he's saying?

 

Do you?

Yup, he won't accept the results of a fraudulent election. 

 

It would be the greatest disservice to his followers if he had said yes today

 

Good thing Ted Cruz is pushing for an FBI investigation into the James tapes because that's sickening and need to be investigated 

[Aerion Brightflame]

How would he know it's fraudulent before any investigation went underway? And would he accept the result if it's fraudulent in his favour?

 

Not accepting the result of a democratic election should be very scary

[Wizarus]

I'm going to assume undecided voters are trolling at this point since there is no way anyone can be undecided with so much at stake and after everything that has happened so far in this election.

 

I think this was Hillary's strongest debate out of the 3. She did give some stupid answers("America is great because America is good", ugh) but she seemed much more prepared, didn't really lose her cool this time, and managed to successfully dodge /deflect those Wikileak questions and change the subject to Russia and Trump's relationship with Putin. 

 

I honestly think Trump did worse than the first debate. He managed to insult minority voters(again), he said that "Such as nasty woman" comment even after he claimed that no one else respected women like he did, he gave a terrible closing statements IMO, and said America can't have 4 more years of Obama despite Obama having a 55% approval rating, he refused to concede to the will of the people if he were to lose the election, he fell into multple traps laid out by Hillary(30 years experience, 17 intelligent agencies), and he was overall much more defensive than the last 2 debates.

 

At the end of the day, he just failed to appeal to voters outside of the majority of white men, who will come out for him, but it just will not be enough for him to win with those votes alone. He knows this, that's most likely why he started this rigged election talk.

[Tentacruel]

Trump not accepting defeat would be catastrophic.  Completely disrespectful to his supporters, the American people and to democracy itself. 

 

Not that I don't believe Hillary would do any of the shady campaign sheet she's accused of.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Trump not accepting defeat would be catastrophic. Completely disrespectful to his supporters, the American people and to democracy itself.

 

Not that I don't believe Hillary would do any of the shady campaign sheet she's accused of.

Him accepting after all we've done for him would be the true offensive thing to do

 

I was undecided till yesterday. I've talked about grabbing pussy, never on wire though. Idc what he said the way he said is showed me incompetence. He came off as boring, presidential, and calm.

 

She showed me how vile she is.

 

Her defense of partial birth abortion was sick. She's a nasty woman

 

 

Man finds nearly 100 voter pamphlets dumped in recycling bin @berkeley. Federal investigation under way #ktvu@10:30p

 

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

I would love to know what (true) points Trump brought up that caused him to "win" this debate, because honestly, I had thought this was his worst. People aren't declaring him a winner because of his pointless (and almost invariably incorrect) habit of saying "wrong" are they? Or that he, once again, defies the rest of his campaign because he can't take a loss? Or did he win everyone over by his insistence that he knows more about wikileaks than the combined effort of all of the US intelligence agencies? Was it his story of partial birth abortions days before the baby is due, which simply doesn't happen? Or perhaps it was his criticism of Bill for signing "the worst deal ever to ever be signed by anyone in history" NAFTA, which was in reality signed by George Bush, and didn't have any significant effect on the economy for that matter. Maybe it was his insistence that Hillary's tax plan would double taxes for all of America, which, once again, is an absolute falsehood. It must have been the pathetic remark about how his terrible show deserved an Emmy, since at least that got a chuckle out of me.

 

If what he was saying was true, then yeah, he would have won. But when each of your points ignores the facts of the matter, that win shouldn't make you president.

 

EDIT: also he said many Syrian refugees were "definitely" involved with terrorism. He was going to say probably, but decided that wasn't accusatory enough so changed to definitely mid-sentence. It is a proven fact that changing adverbs in the middle of a statement increases the truthfulness of your accusation by 73%, so it was an intelligent move on his part.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Rigging the Election Part I 10:59-11:04 Zulema Rodriguez says "I just had a call with the campaign and the DNC. Everyday at one o'clock." https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

"...Everyday at o'clock."

Wikileaks email id 12012 RE: Reminder -- Trump Rapid Response/Bracketing Call -- Today - Tues - May17 - 1PM Eastern (Thread was started by Bob Creamer and look at the others copied on it)

 

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12012

             '1PM Eastern'

So much for the double blind.

 

 

So much for O'keefe making this all up

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

You didn't make much of an effort to defend your candidate's performance there. Trump made it very clear in the debate that he either had no idea what he is talking about, or he is simply lying about his policy, past policies, and the effect his presidency would have on the country. Yes, he talked a lot of big talk. Enough big talk to sway a lot of people, but a lot of his big talk was nothing short of untrue.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

You didn't make much of an effort to defend your candidate's performance there. Trump made it very clear in the debate that he either had no idea what he is talking about, or he is simply lying about his policy, past policies, and the effect his presidency would have on the country. Yes, he talked a lot of big talk. Enough big talk to sway a lot of people, but a lot of his big talk was nothing short of untrue.

I told you. I didn't like it. He was too polite and let her get away with a lot during the first half. I wasn't the target demographic for that debate

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

You are ignoring the point I am making. He lied through the whole thing. He showed a complete lack of understanding of the situation in Mosul, and a disregard for the 250,000 lives still there. He demonstrated his own vanity in believing that he somehow knows more about the source of the wikileaks hacks than the entirety of US intelligence agencies. He showed himself to be petty, openly saying that every time a situation hasn't resolved in his favor it is because it is rigged against him. He constantly interrupted both Hillary and the mediator, insisting that any allegation against him is "wrong" despite many of them being doubtlessly proven to be true. He bails his own shady business practices and lack of integrity on Hillary for allowing loopholes and Chinese steel to be available, showing a lack of understanding of the scope of a senator's power. He accused Hillary of being Putin's puppet, respite her constant criticism of the Russian president, simply because he could not come up with a retort better than "I know you are but what am I?"

 

He denies his own word constantly, ranging from his initial support of invasion in 2002 to his defense against sexual assault charges of the women being too unattractive to assault only a few days ago. He shows a blissful willingness to completely ignore his party, advisors, and economists, arguing financial figures that are completely unfounded. He accuses Hillary of being selfish in her political practices, despite there being several cases (notably with his casino and resort) of him ruining lives and bankrupting subcorporations by making use of their funds and putting his employees' wages in his own pocket.

 

Whether you enjoyed the debate or not, whether you think he was too polite or too crass, it doesn't change the fact that he presented untruths in the crux of every single one of his major talking points. How do you justify supporting this candidate?

 

You say you weren't the target demographic, but based on his performance it can only be assumed that his target demographic is those too ignorant or lazy to check if what he says even resembles the truth.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Well I didn't watch the whole thing, I can only tell you what I saw in the first 15-20 min. Which was Trump reinforcing my position on abortion. Repeal Roe v. Wade. Pass the three exceptions, and then let the states decide from there. 9 un-elected men and women should not be able to speak for the people.

 

But I'll take your word he said all you're saying he said.

 

Mosul is the major ISIS stronghold that we're sieging atm, I take it you mean Aleppo. Aleppo has fallen by all reasonable measures, it looks worse than post WW2 Dresden atm. The only people still attacking the city and the 250K you say are there are the rebels. Supported by my beloved president. If anything Obama should be prosecuted and tried for war crimes. For all your claims of Assad killing many of his citizens, the death toll from the Sarin drop that the US claims he did was far smaller than the warfare the rebels are engaging in atm. Did Trump finally back Assad or is he still wiffing on going all the way there?

 

Funny, I didn't see y'all defend US intelligence when they bullshitted us all on the Iraq war. 

 

But Hillary Clinton's "17 US intelligence agencies" include: *Coast Guard *DEA *Navel Intelligence *Department of Energy *Air Force recon

 

Until they give proof to the matter beyond their word, I'm not taking them srsly. Rep Peloci has been pushing Obama to incriminate the Russians for the ages on the matter. News flash, the 80's want their foreign policy back. 

 

Trump should have pointed out the fact the UK ambassador came out and said there was no chance of it being a Russian Hack yesterday. Both that and the US "intelligence" claims have the same weight (zero)

 

Obama is highly implicated in the matter. 

 

WikiLeaks reveals first batch of US president Barack Obama emails sent via secret address [email protected]. OFC he's covering his tracks. What credibility does this government have to stand on for you to expect me to trust them. 

 

HRC talked over the moderator too lol, plenty of times as far as I've heard. You'll link Nate Silver to me I assume. He didn't account for the times where she refused to stop talking

 

She's implicated in the emails gushing about Putin and being in his inner ring

 

Rigged: More and more information keeps being found that O'keffe was correct. If you'd look at that for a second you'd realize what Trump is talking about.

 

Trump denied accusations? Do you have proof they happened? Cause most witnesses for the cases say nothing of the sort happened. Should be believe all the accusations against Bill and HRC then? Cause they settled in court. Trump hasn't w/ regard to the rape allegations yet. Tell me when Trump settles

 

Give me a break, nobody takes 30 years to sue a billionaire. All Bill's accusers came out right away. Where have these people been hiding

 

"I guess so" on Howard Stern=/= Passionately arguing for it on the Senate Floor. Earlier interview of him saying it was gonna end badly also came up recently. 

 

Nothing the Trump has done comes close to accepting ISIS Blood money and funneling funds from Haiti to "friends of Bill"

 

I'm not denying he probs ripped a few people off. But if there was an illegal motive, why wasn't he taken to trial?

 

HRC confirmed the validity of wikileaks yesterday. 

 

 

He should have called her a Traitor, an accomplice to Murder, and repeatedly asked her if that was her private or public position on stage. In my eyes he failed, he didn't rip that traitorous dog a new one on stage

 

1/10 marks

 

Please answer why HRC was using a headpiece again

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xzw9DeNsof

 

 

Or how about the clear DNC violation of 18 U.S. Code § 2102

 

- Definitions

 

As used in this chapter, the term “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not ...

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

So far what I'm seeing from this thread is.
Trump is an jabroni who keeps making sheet up

Hilary has some source who I still don't see any reason to actually believe claiming she's some vague monstrous person

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

So far what I'm seeing from this thread is.

Trump is an jabroni who keeps making sheet up

Hilary has some source who I still don't see any reason to actually believe claiming she's some vague monstrous person

 

 

 

We all see what we want to see

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Yes, we, including you, do.

Seriously dude? You're gonna resort to petty insults?
Give me reason to believe these leaks. Like. Why should I hinge the fate of America on some dude who could easily be making this up? And it's completely true, as was pointed out, that Trump basically was aggressively lying throughout that debate. Or not giving any actual information that means anything.

You say I'm blind or seeing what I want to see, yet, it would seem to me you're just sheepishly going along with Trump's narrative.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Yes, we, including you, do.

Seriously dude? You're gonna resort to petty insults?

Give me reason to believe these leaks. Like. Why should I hinge the fate of America on some dude who could easily be making this up? And it's completely true, as was pointed out, that Trump basically was aggressively lying throughout that debate. Or not giving any actual information that means anything.

 

You say I'm blind or seeing what I want to see, yet, it would seem to me you're just sheepishly going along with Trump's narrative.

IDK, HRC confirmed them last night?

 

That seems like a pretty good reason

 

What's the bloody point of me responding to Giga if you're just gonna make me do it then ignore it >_> 

 

Also can you highlight what narrative I'm going along with that I didn't have before Trump? Curious

[Sunshine Jesse]

To be frank, there's not much of a cause to deny them. Wikileaks has generally been correct in the past and a few slip-ups here and there isn't enough to fully discredit them.

 

So it's basically the exact opposite of the James O'Keefe situation, meaning even shameless Hillary shills like me need to accept that there's mostly (if not all) truth in them.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Well Trump has clarified his position to saying he'll only refuse to accept the result of the election if he loses. 

 

Which means he's not doing it out of principle, he's just being a shitty loser. Thankfully he also says he won't contest a clear result, so it's just contesting a close result not in his favour. Which is basically 'I'll challenge any result where challenging it still gives me hope of winning', which is petty. And undemocratic. 

[Sunshine Jesse]

Well Trump has clarified his position to saying he'll only refuse to accept the result of the election if he loses. 

 

Which means he's not doing it out of principle, he's just being a shitty loser. Thankfully he also says he won't contest a clear result, so it's just contesting a close result not in his favour. Which is basically 'I'll challenge any result where challenging it still gives me hope of winning', which is petty. And undemocratic. 

that makes it worse

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

IDK, HRC confirmed them last night?

 

That seems like a pretty good reason

 

What's the bloody point of me responding to Giga if you're just gonna make me do it then ignore it >_> 

 

Also can you highlight what narrative I'm going along with that I didn't have before Trump? Curious

When?

 

And even if they're true, we're left with, what? Two terrible people. So now we've got what to go off of? How they present themselves, how much experience they have, and which one won't funk things up. So far that's not Trump.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

When?

 

And even if they're true, we're left with, what? Two terrible people. So now we've got what to go off of? How they present themselves, how much experience they have, and which one won't funk things up. So far that's not Trump.

I'm sorry, I don't see Trump's crimes as being equal to HRC's

 

I don't see her Exp as good exp. If you do, please vote for her.

 

That's really all

[Dad]

 

We all see what we want to see

 

What are you actually doing?  Memes.  Direct insults.  Satire.  I don't get it man.  Apparently, neither do you.  You guys can think about this over the weekend.  I'll consider reopening this Monday, 10/24.  That's if you can be mature about it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://archive.is/9B6hF

 

It's an archive of the stuff I've been able to collect, not exclusive or exhaustive. I'll keep adding to it as they keep dropping more podesta

emails

 

http://bients.com/wikileaks-releases-first-batch-barack-obama-emails-hint-rigged-election/

 

Obama emails, please note, source is obviously a little bias, so make up your own mind from the citations

 

http://www.accuratepolitics.com/p/early-voting.html?m=1

 

Useful tool to keep track of early voting

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2605403

 

State Dept. ( HillaryClinton Aide ) Pleads The 5th More Than 90 Times

 

[cr47t]

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/17/498325590/melania-trump-stands-by-her-husband-dismisses-comments-as-boy-talk
 

The boys, the way they talk when they grow up, and they want to sometimes show each other, 'Oh, this and that,' and talking about the girls.

Now, I understand that Melania comes from a country where women's rights may not be held in such high esteem as they are here and where male chauvinism may be more common(?). But this is the United States of America that we are talking about, and we hold women to be equal to men here (at least in this generation.) As an American I've never heard this kind of "boy talk" in my life and it is an unfit term for Donald's remarks. My guess is that Melania is not used to these American values about women.