cr47t Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Lol what, so it's rape if I hit on a girl and take her shopping after knowing she has a bf?From what I understand it's rape if you do it without direct consent from the other person involved. That is what Donald seems to keep hinting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 From what I understand it's rape if you do it without direct consent from the other person involved. That is what Donald seems to keep hinting at. Again, Trump took her shopping and tired to hit on her? I'm just not seeing the "rape" y'all are trigger happy for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016    Again, Trump took her shopping and tired to hit on her? I'm just not seeing the "rape" y'all are trigger happy forYou're missing the point. What makes it rape (imo) is if one person does it to the other person, without the other person's direct consent. So far we have no reliable record of the other person saying she was OK with Donald doing.... whatever it was he was doing to her. (No details, please, it would be NSFW.) EDIT: Sorry for the amps and nbsps, it's just coming up on it's own. I suspect it has to do with the site's current state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016  You're missing the point. What makes it rape (imo) is if one person does it to the other person, without the other person's direct consent. So far we have no reliable record of the other person saying she was OK with Donald doing.... whatever it was he was doing to her. (No details, please, it would be NSFW.) EDIT: Sorry for the amps and nbsps, it's just coming up on it's own. I suspect it has to do with the site's current state. RNC Official: @realDonaldTrump has been taken off the Phone Call scripts for recruitment and Absentee Ballot requests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjokvSO5GTY That's the lady in purple he was flirting with "I did flirt with Donald Trump"  You're missing the point. What makes it rape (imo) is if one person does it to the other person, without the other person's direct consent. So far we have no reliable record of the other person saying she was OK with Donald doing.... whatever it was he was doing to her. (No details, please, it would be NSFW.) EDIT: Sorry for the amps and nbsps, it's just coming up on it's own. I suspect it has to do with the site's current state. RNC Official: @realDonaldTrump has been taken off the Phone Call scripts for recruitment and Absentee Ballot requests I swear to god, I will vote Democrat downballot, every Trump support I've spoken to will either not vote or will vote Dem if they try to pull the rug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjokvSO5GTY That's the lady in purple he was flirting with "I did flirt with Donald Trump" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/10/07/experts-said-arctic-sea-ice-would-melt-entirely-by-september-201/ Double Post, sorry mods, it won't let me edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 This is disastrous for Trump, and you can tell because he, who refused to apologize about everything else prior, immediately sent out an apology soon after it was leaked. He needs women who aren't Hillary's biggest fans to come out for him if he wants to win, and this could potentially drive them away. Most of the GOP are throwing Trump under the bus because they have to. They've established themselves as the party of Christian and family values, they can't be associated with this, even if he's the leader of the party. It's terrible timing too, since the second debate is only a couple days away. If this upcoming debate goes badly, I can see GOP leaders just taking the L, pulling out sponsers, and try to distance themselves from Trump as much as they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Winter wtfDid you not see the part where he said "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”Also seriously? You are going to take him saying "They let you do anything" HIM SAYING "they let me" as a "Oh yeah this totally is how it happened"Sorry but someone who has evidently harassed and possibly raped people saying "No totally they let me" doesn't mean much.And before you say "innocent until proven guilty" just stop. That is true but it doesn't mean that someone gets a free pass because he said he didn't do anything wrong. You're literally blindly defending him for this. This is someone who might be the leader of our country and there's a good chance, given Trump's general attitude and history, that he did something like this and it doesn't concern you one bit? Instead you're just going to defend him through and through just because he's the candidate you prefer? That's just not right. idk why I'm bothering though you're just gonna brush this off as "CowCow is extremely liberal and against all I am for" and not care about what I'm saying. Maybe something about a mindless horde. Also I totally can edit, which is odd, cause some people said they can't. Wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 What? One woman admitted to flirting with Trump in the video The other he tried to seduce and it failed Neither of which is rape, scummy yes Honestly the most disappointing part of this for me was that Melania was pregnant at the time. That's what upsets me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 One woman admitted to flirting with Trump in the video The other he tried to seduce and it failed Did either of them give consent? If at least one of them did not, it falls under the category of sexual harassment/abuse, which includes rape. Neither of which is rape https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=define+rape Here's a definition for you -- this is essentially what Donald did and/or bragged about in the tape. Honestly the most disappointing part of this for me was that Melania was pregnant at the time. That's what upsets me Yes, that part is scummy, but it's not the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 That's just it. All did to the First Lady was take her out shopping to try to seduce her, she rejected him still, he moved on The second lady accepted to flirting with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Well, even if they did consent, Donald still thinks he can do it without consent because he's considered a star, and therefore seems to suggest that he thinks he is above the law because of his stardom -- imagine what would happen if he enforced that rule to all people with fame. Do you want someone like that in charge of the Department of Justice (or whatever it is called)? And on the subject of justice, Donald still thinks the Central Park 5 are guilty. (They are not.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 moving the goalpost there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 moving the goalpost thereI have no idea what you mean by that vague statement -- could you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I have no idea what you mean by that vague statement -- could you elaborate? Look, if you wanna think Trump is a rapist, w/e I think this video makes the counterpoint very clear, but if you want confirmation bias, go for thinking he's a rapist He's sick for trying cheat on his pregnant wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I don't think him actually being a rapist is the issue here. The issue is the attitude and the fact that he actually said this sort of s*** when trying to be a presidential candidate. Like we have footage of him on The Apprentice talking to a female candidate about 'how I bet she looked good on her knee's' (He actually focused specifically on this detail, not on his supposed job on the show). We have testimony from people running the show that he'd constantly make comments and advances on the women involved. We have his weird ass comments about how attractive he finds his daughter. We have an alleged rape from I think 97? We have the notorious 'Grab them by the pussy' comment, we have him saying that he can get away with this s*** because he's so rich. We have him talking about being able to go backstage at a miss universe contest and oogle them under the pretence of 'checking everything is okay'. We have a series of radio interviews with Howard Stern where they talk about women like hormonal teenagers would. We have him randomly bringing up a non existant sex tape in the 3AM tweet a week back. I think we have testimony from one of his ex wives about how much of a bastard he is. It's a consistent, frequent, and fairly well documented history of being demeaning towards women in a overtly sexual fashion. The fact that he's a 3 time divorcee I think (And cheated on some of his old wives with future ones), has commented that women over 35 are dead to him, attempted this sort of s*** whilst his wife was pregnant just adds to it. It's just so much s*** about just his attitude towards women, some of which would be campaign sinking by itself but he has so f***ing much of it that is an issue here even if claims of rape are unfounded. Because it really does imply he thinks less of women, or that they are only sexual tools. He still expressed the viewpoint that he could get away with sexually assaulting women through his fame alone. You talk about moving the goalposts, but isn't that kinda what you are doing? 'Oh he's not actually a rapist so these like dozen or so examples aren't actually that bad'. EDIT: And this isn't even half of the sheet that's gone wrong from Trump in the last week. I don't think anyone has talked about the supposed suspension of the Victory Project for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I don't think him actually being a rapist is the issue here. The issue is the attitude and the fact that he actually said this sort of s*** when trying to be a presidential candidate. Like we have footage of him on The Apprentice talking to a female candidate about 'how I bet she looked good on her knee's' (He actually focused specifically on this detail, not on his supposed job on the show). We have testimony from people running the show that he'd constantly make comments and advances on the women involved. We have his weird ass comments about how attractive he finds his daughter. We have an alleged rape from I think 97? We have the notorious 'Grab them by the pussy' comment, we have him saying that he can get away with this s*** because he's so rich. We have him talking about being able to go backstage at a miss universe contest and oogle them under the pretence of 'checking everything is okay'. We have a series of radio interviews with Howard Stern where they talk about women like hormonal teenagers would. We have him randomly bringing up a non existant sex tape in the 3AM tweet a week back. I think we have testimony from one of his ex wives about how much of a bastard he is. It's a consistent, frequent, and fairly well documented history of being demeaning towards women in a overtly sexual fashion. The fact that he's a 3 time divorcee I think (And cheated on some of his old wives with future ones), has commented that women over 35 are dead to him, attempted this sort of s*** whilst his wife was pregnant just adds to it. It's just so much s*** about just his attitude towards women, some of which would be campaign sinking by itself but he has so f***ing much of it that is an issue here even if claims of rape are unfounded. Because it really does imply he thinks less of women, or that they are only sexual tools. He still expressed the viewpoint that he could get away with sexually assaulting women through his fame alone. You talk about moving the goalposts, but isn't that kinda what you are doing? 'Oh he's not actually a rapist so these like dozen or so examples aren't actually that bad'. EDIT: And this isn't even half of the sheet that's gone wrong from Trump in the last week. I don't think anyone has talked about the supposed suspension of the Victory Project for instance. Nah, he's a womanizer. He was in a showbiz where they objectified woman. It was the standard there. I personally find him being unfaithful to his wife when she's in need (pregnancy) concerning because like her, we the voters are in need and desperately need him to be faithful to us. I am concerned what this tape revealed, but not for the same reasons y'all are. VF is legit. They did pull it, but don't count out the ground game thing, I've had the Iowa Trump people call me 6 times today asking me if I got my ballot and if I could be counted on. I think the ground-game is fine regardless of if the establishment wants him or not. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuVSpGoXgAAuqxX.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuWVhrCW8AMqSjA.jpg All you people doubting Trump, I'll see you on nov9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 It being standard in Hollywood doesn't make it an acceptable standard for a presidential candidate. Which is part of the problem I think Trump is facing from most circles: Being a presidential candidate has a remarkably different set of standards to being in showbiz, or being in business. Because the president has a role in definining policy, and as such those kinds of attitudes shouldn't have a place in the office. It's not really a defence of the man, more just hand-waving going 'this is fine, we expect this sort of thing'. Eh, there's so much sheet being thrown up about Trump lately that everyone probably has something that's worrying them the most regardless of which candidate you support. Even with the VF backing him up Trump had a smaller ground game than Clinton does. And smaller than Romney did in 2012. (Though technically Clinton also has less than Obama did, but I think Obama had unprecedented levels of ground support in 2012) Which is kinda bad for him. The VF actually had to kick his ground game into gear in the first place as far as I am aware so them pulling out is potentially really damaging. Also odds on Trump trying to slap Hillary in the debate tonight? Since this is not a good place to be in just before a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 The RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill. But Sean Spicer, the RNC's chief strategist, took to Twitter to say the story is "not true" and called Reid Epstein's reporting "false." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Kudos to Trump for going on the attack (Where he tends to be better) than to be defensive about this issue, but holy sheet that was such a low blow even Satan is cringing. Like he responds to the allegiations towards him... by doubling down on the 'Bill Clinton was a rapist' line. That's just kinda silly to me because it's not Bill funking running after all. Like Hillary can dismiss it by going 'I'm not Bill' and that's that. It's makes him look petty and completely undercuts his previous apology. It is an almost admirably insane move, but Jesus Christ Trump there were frankly better avenues to go than try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Yeah Trump has a huge history of harassment and has an attitude that he can get away with this sheet. Which is mostly what I was getting at. He's pretty much absolute trash who I don't want leading and representing my nation. Even if Hilary is a criminal at least she can actually be diplomatic and not constantly show and spout stupid and trashy sheet. Even though she's had her share of sheet she's so much better at handling it than Trump. Basically Trump simply is not fit to have that kind of power. Both candidates are shady in different ways but at this point I think I have to give it to Hilary more simply because I don't constantly see her being an incompetent buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 It's not that Bill was a rapist, it's that HRC called his victims bimbo eruptions and said she would destroy them Focus Group: Who are you willing to vote for? BEFORE #DEBATE • Hillary: 9 • Trump: 8 AFTER DEBATE • Hillary: 4 • Trump: 18 I'll rest my case Also HRC staffer telling Trump to go funk himself was amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Really? Cause polls I keep seeing say either Hilary is 10% ahead of Trump or it's basically split. Edit: And then some say Trump is 10% more. So basically...nothing conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 The fly that landed on Hillary won the debate. #Fly2016. Might give a more in-depth analysis later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm not gonna watch the whole thing but from the looks of things, Trump didn't do nearly as retardedly bad in this one as the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Really? Cause polls I keep seeing say either Hilary is 10% ahead of Trump or it's basically split. Edit: And then some say Trump is 10% more. So basically...nothing conclusive. These are the same polls that had Trump 90/10 last debate, check flashpolls tomorrow, This is Frank Lundz focus group Jake Tapped called it a wash lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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