[RESULTS ARE FINAL] 2016 Election for President of the United States | Donald Trump Victory

[Aerion Brightflame]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

 

'It's very serious. Roberta Gustave Lange, a Clinton supporter and Chair of the Democratic State Party, changed the rules without a 2/3rds majority quorum, which are listed HERE:http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf

And because she illegally changed the rules, again, without a legal quorum and thus NO AUTHORITY to do so, Clinton has now won the 3rd tier of the Nevada election.

This is extraordinarily illegal behavior. It is actually election fraud, by every definition of the term. You do not flout rules like this in these settings; this is literally a violation of basic Democratic procedure. I am STUNNED at the audacity of this behavior.

Roberta Lange's twitter, for those interested in her side (since obviously I am not in any way promoting we "harass" her, which would be against Reddit rules) is @rlange9 and her FB is here:https://www.facebook.com/roberta.gustavelange?fref=nf&ref=content_filter&hc_location=ufi

The crowd is protesting but is unsure of what to do and are live updating.

How can a filmed, illegal process even be certified?'

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalVideo/comments/4jdtgg/chair_of_nv_democratic_party_a_clinton_supporter/

 

So yeah, this happened. 

[cr47t]

Bump.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/15/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-nevada-convention/index.html

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Bump.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/15/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-nevada-convention/index.html

If a casino has to kick you out for being too chaotic, then that should tell you something. Even more so for a political party that had to cut their convention short. *sigh* And here I thought the Democratic Primary would be the same one. Now both the Democratic and Republican primaries have gone crazy...

[cr47t]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

 

'It's very serious. Roberta Gustave Lange, a Clinton supporter and Chair of the Democratic State Party, changed the rules without a 2/3rds majority quorum, which are listed HERE:http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf

And because she illegally changed the rules, again, without a legal quorum and thus NO AUTHORITY to do so, Clinton has now won the 3rd tier of the Nevada election.

This is extraordinarily illegal behavior. It is actually election fraud, by every definition of the term. You do not flout rules like this in these settings; this is literally a violation of basic Democratic procedure. I am STUNNED at the audacity of this behavior.

Roberta Lange's twitter, for those interested in her side (since obviously I am not in any way promoting we "harass" her, which would be against Reddit rules) is @rlange9 and her FB is here:https://www.facebook.com/roberta.gustavelange?fref=nf&ref=content_filter&hc_location=ufi

The crowd is protesting but is unsure of what to do and are live updating.

How can a filmed, illegal process even be certified?'

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalVideo/comments/4jdtgg/chair_of_nv_democratic_party_a_clinton_supporter/

 

So yeah, this happened.

Yeah... this sucks. You guys at the DNC really need to just shut up and clean up your act.

 

If a casino has to kick you out for being too chaotic, then that should tell you something. Even more so for a political party that had to cut their convention short. *sigh* And here I thought the Democratic Primary would be the same one. Now both the Democratic and Republican primaries have gone crazy...

And people thought the Republican party was going to be the crazier of the two.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Well, just dropped off my ballot in the County Clerk's office. Let's hope for a good night.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Well, just dropped off my ballot in the County Clerk's office. Let's hope for a good night.

Bern Baby, Bern

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/upshot/is-traditional-polling-underselling-donald-trumps-true-strength.html

 

http://thehill.com/opinion/dick-morris/279439-morris-trump-can-win

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sheldon-adelson-i-endorse-donald-trump-for-president/2016/05/12/ea89d7f0-17a0-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/13/trump-just-boasted-that-he-pays-as-little-in-taxes-as-possible-no-really/?postshare=8591463147320575&tid=ss_tw

 

 

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/279764-email-clinton-abandoned-secure-line-to-use-home-phone

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/13/heres-who-led-in-the-general-election-at-this-point-in-2004-2008-and-2012/?client=safari#

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/13/3866991-transgender-bathroom-gender-federalism-trump/amp/?client=safari#

 

 

 

https://www.thestreet.com/story/13335121/1/if-donald-trump-was-president-here-s-what-would-happen-to-the-u-s-economy.html

 

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/donald-trump-refuses-reveal-tax-rate-business/story%3fid=39086788?client=safari#

 

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/donald-trump-refuses-reveal-tax-rate-business/story%3fid=39086788?client=safari#

 

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/05/11/jake-tapper-fact-check-clinton-emails-origwx-jm.cnn

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/corker-vp-223011

 

http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/01/how-and-why-republicans-should-target-black-voters-not-latinos/

 

http://www.npr.org/2016/05/10/477190080/demographics-and-history-tilt-the-map-in-clintons-favor-over-trump

 

https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2016/05/10/democrats-have-the-problem/?singlepage=true

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/482448/?client=safari#

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/36278172?client=safari#

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Sanders leads Clinton by less than 200 votes in Kentucky with 93% reporting. Extremely close with a chance of a recount.

[Goose]

Sanders leads Clinton by less than 200 votes in Kentucky with 93% reporting. Extremely close with a chance of a recount.

 

It's only a 1 delegate swing either way so pretty much irrelevant.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It will be relevant if Sanders decides to cause problems about him winning more states after losing the primary

[Nathanael D. Striker]

And now the margin is 1000 votes in favor of Sanders. Winning a state is winning a state.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

And Clinton somehow made it a 2000 vote lead for her with 99% reporting. Both get 25 delegates atm.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Sanders wins Oregon with 60% reporting. Virtual tie in Kentucky (predicting a recount) and a win in Oregon makes for a good night.

[cr47t]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-establishment-battle-boils-over/

 

Now, I do like Bernie a lot, but I need his more hardcore fans to get under control.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-establishment-battle-boils-over/

 

Now, I do like Bernie a lot, but I need his more hardcore fans to get under control.

It almost sounds like you just admitted that not all followers of the great Bern are angels. *gasp* Such Blasphemy!

 

Well, guess we better roast the living funk out of Bernie for not publically denouncing the death threats the Bernie people in Nevada made against Hillary delegates

 

Never mind, those standards are only for Trump to adhere to

 

It's like y'all don't realize what populism really means smh

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

*words*

 

If you're not even gonna try to make an honest argument, sit your ass down, and shut up, because I've told you before why this comparison doesnt work, and if needed be, I'll KEEP telling you why you're deliberately inflaming the discussion by trying to frame s*** like this, untill it finally sticks

 

 

 

EDIT: And just so I dont leave you with nothing, because I'm just this gosh darn nice

 

The Sanders campaign on Tuesday did condemn unruly behavior from supporters and those who made threats to party leaders, but made clear it is sticking with its stance that the party is subverting the process in a way that benefits Clinton.

"These claims that our campaign is sort of fomenting violence in some way are absolute nonsense," Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver told CNN's Wolf Blitzer Tuesday night, adding that the campaign "absolutely, categorically" condemns any threatening behavior.

Granted, it's not from Sanders himself, but it still counts

 

But that's fine, you can keep sitting inside your little bubble thinking Trump can do no wrong just because he's promising to

"make america great again"

 

Meanwhile the capable politicians will keep on handling these incidents like they should be handled, instead of just sweeping it under the rug and pretending it's to be expected

[Aerion Brightflame]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-establishment-battle-boils-over/

 

Now, I do like Bernie a lot, but I need his more hardcore fans to get under control.

 

Do you understand why people got pissed at the DNC? 

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

 

Sanders supporters were pissed, quite rightfully, because Mrs Roberta Lange was incredibly undemocratic at the convention, and it potentially cost him delegates.And definitely went against the will of the crowd. She started a vote to establish rules for the convention before it officially started at 10AM (Whilst there would still be delegates signing into the convention). A vocal recount for this then happened, and despite (As you can see in the video I posted above) that being in favour of the nays, she ignores it and passes the convention rules anyway with the words 'The ruling by the chair is not debatable and cannot be challenged, and I move... that the rules HAVE passed'. 

 

I also believe, I can't remember the link I used for this, but I believe, when the results came out in the end in Hilarry's favour made a comment along the lines of 'We did it!' in celebration. Which is you know salt in the wound. 

 

On top of you know consistent evidence of electoral fraud across many states that seems to be favouring Hilary, and the respective levels of news coverage, you can understand why people are getting pissed at the DNC. Because that's one of the big issues right now, that we as individuals have no say in politics anymore. So when this idea gets reinforced, right in front of them, of course people will get pissed and take it too far, 

 

But if you want to talk about supporters being violent, why hasn't Hilary come out to condem Wendell Pierce for attempting to assault two Women for getting into a political discussion with him and happening to be Sanders supporters? 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/wendell-pierce-atlanta-hotel-attack.html?_r=0

 

Since this is about a concrete story as the CNN one (Speaking of which why the f*** are you taking a CNN argument about the violence? They show incredible amounts of bias towards Hilary). And yet Sanders campaign denounced the violence (As he has consistently done over the campaign), but has Hilary come forth over a public figure doing this?

 

No? Then why make comments about Sanders and not Hilary? (And before Winter Chimes in, comments were made about Trump because he arguably encouraged Violence, which is a major difference) 

 

This whole election, even as an outsider, is just f***ing disgusting. Especially coming from a nation that prides itself on it's 'Democracy' 

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

Do you understand why people got pissed at the DNC? 

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279930-nevada-dem-convention-devolves-into-chaos

 

Sanders supporters were pissed, quite rightfully, because Mrs Roberta Lange was incredibly undemocratic at the convention, and it potentially cost him delegates.And definitely went against the will of the crowd. She started a vote to establish rules for the convention before it officially started at 10AM (Whilst there would still be delegates signing into the convention). A vocal recount for this then happened, and despite (As you can see in the video I posted above) that being in favour of the nays, she ignores it and passes the convention rules anyway with the words 'The ruling by the chair is not debatable and cannot be challenged, and I move... that the rules HAVE passed'. 

 

I also believe, I can't remember the link I used for this, but I believe, when the results came out in the end in Hilarry's favour made a comment along the lines of 'We did it!' in celebration. Which is you know salt in the wound. 

 

On top of you know consistent evidence of electoral fraud across many states that seems to be favouring Hilary, and the respective levels of news coverage, you can understand why people are getting pissed at the DNC. Because that's one of the big issues right now, that we as individuals have no say in politics anymore. So when this idea gets reinforced, right in front of them, of course people will get pissed and take it too far, 

 

But if you want to talk about supporters being violent, why hasn't Hilary come out to condem Wendell Pierce for attempting to assault two Women for getting into a political discussion with him and happening to be Sanders supporters? 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/wendell-pierce-atlanta-hotel-attack.html?_r=0

 

Since this is about a concrete story as the CNN one (Speaking of which why the f*** are you taking a CNN argument about the violence? They show incredible amounts of bias towards Hilary). And yet Sanders campaign denounced the violence (As he has consistently done over the campaign), but has Hilary come forth over a public figure doing this?

 

No? Then why make comments about Sanders and not Hilary? 

 

This whole election, even as an outsider, is just f***ing disgusting. Especially coming from a nation that prides itself on it's 'Democracy' 

 

^^^^ THIS, ALL OF IT. SO MUCH ^^^^

 

I'm to this day baffled that the heads of those in charge arent rolling when the election has so far been blatantly rigged right in front of the peoples face, and no one even gives a damn. So yeah, it's not surprising at all to me that some eventually have it up to here with it all, especially when there's actually someone trying to give power back to the people, but is being blocked every step of the way, by people who should be embracing the reforms he wants to do.

 

If there's even one good thing that's gonna come outof this election, it's gonna be that atleast it's been irrevocably proven just how easy it is to manipulate the voting results, just because of how needlessly complex the entire process is to get someone in office.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 

If you're not even gonna try to make an honest argument, sit your ass down, and shut up, because I've told you before why this comparison doesnt work, and if needed be, I'll KEEP telling you why you're deliberately inflaming the discussion by trying to frame s*** like this, untill it finally sticks

 

 

 

EDIT: And just so I dont leave you with nothing, because I'm just this gosh darn nice

 

Granted, it's not from Sanders himself, but it still counts

 

But that's fine, you can keep sitting inside your little bubble thinking Trump can do no wrong just because he's promising to

"make america great again"

 

Meanwhile the capable politicians will keep on handling these incidents like they should be handled, instead of just sweeping it under the rug and pretending it's to be expected

I'm not entirely sure you can do the math here, but I guess it's worth a shot

 

Trump learns of David Duke's "endorsement" on Wednesday, he disavows on Thursday

Sanders disavows on Tuesday(17th), AFTER the Senate Minority leader met with him. Nevada was the 13-15th

 

Stop putting words in my mouth. Trump can do plenty wrong. He was funking idiotic to suggest threatening to default as a threat. He's stupid for denying climate change. He's a monster for supporting the death plenty. I don't support him for some stupid catch phrase.

 

Get off your high horse. 

 

The only capable politician in this race is Clinton, the other two are populists woven from the same cloth, but I doubt that will be able to penetrate your skull

 

Edit: Just to highlight the far left liberal bullshit 

 

All y'all made Trump personally disavow duke 6 times before you got it in your thick skulls that he disavowed them, the first time being mere hours after he learned of the matter. But when Bernie's campaign takes two days to think over a death threat...IT'S JUST DEMOCRACY

 

seriously, funk off

[Aerion Brightflame]

Can I ask why Bernie isn't a capable politician... when he's held some form of office for the past 35 years? (Senator since 2007, Member of the House of Representitives since 91, and was Mayor of Burlington from 81 to 89). 

 

I know that's nit-picky, but I don't get why you'd say Bernie isn't a capable politician when he's held multiple different offices for decades? 

 

Also how about nobody holds the High Horse, and we all agree that Politics right now is FUBAR? Because that's common ground we can all share and try to work on as opposed to debating between corruption incarnate, an independant socialist whose all but out of the running and a reality TV star to see whose supporters are the least f***ed up. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Can I ask why Bernie isn't a capable politician... when he's held some form of office for the past 35 years? (Senator since 2007, Member of the House of Representitives since 91, and was Mayor of Burlington from 81 to 89). 

 

I know that's nit-picky, but I don't get why you'd say Bernie isn't a capable politician when he's held multiple different offices for decades? 

 

Also how about nobody holds the High Horse, and we all agree that Politics right now is FUBAR? Because that's common ground we can all share and try to work on as opposed to debating between corruption incarnate, an independant socialist whose all but out of the running and a reality TV star to see whose supporters are the least f***ed up. 

Capable comes from both his and Trump's inability to do math. Some of both their plans are economically insensible (ie exporting 11 Mill Illegals or free tuition)

 

I owe Sanders an apology. Capable here isn't so much an insult, otherwise I'd be insulting the guy I'm behind.

 

Capable here means capability to do what they say, and not just push out ideals

 

Bernie speaks from the heart of the crowd for the most part, perhaps the word I should be looking for is a "realistic politician" ???

 

I voted for Clinton in the primary, and as much as I hate it, will like have to vote for her in the general, because she's the only one that has any chance of getting her promises through. I love Trump and respect Sanders much more than I do Clinton, but they're pipe dreams

 

Laz's high horse is the fact that when some trash heap endorses Trump it's Trump's fault, but when Bernie supporters threaten to murder children it's just people giving into anger, and def not Bernie's fault

 

You realize Cruz robbed Trump of Colorado too right? As in the polls showed that if it were a regular primary Trump would have massacred Cruz? Trump supporters either protested through burning their registration cards or in their peacefully rally outside the capital. They didn't throw chairs and send death threats

 

The double standard is the high horse

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

Stop putting words in my mouth. Trump can do plenty wrong. He was f***ing idiotic to suggest threatening to default as a threat. He's stupid for denying climate change. He's a monster for supporting the death plenty. I don't support him for some stupid catch phrase.

 

Get off your high horse. 

 

The only capable politician in this race is Clinton, the other two are populists woven from the same cloth, but I doubt that will be able to penetrate your skull

 

Edit: Just to highlight the far left liberal bullshit 

 

All y'all made Trump personally disavow duke 6 times before you got it in your thick skulls that he disavowed them, the first time being mere hours after he learned of the matter. But when Bernie's campaign takes two days to think over a death threat...IT'S JUST DEMOCRACY

 

seriously, f*** off

And yet you still sing him praises to high heaven and, unless this was just another attempt to sound opressed, told us yourself the only reason you voted Clinton instead of Trump was "because of pressure to do so"? And wow someone's a bit touchy. Guess I hit a nerve there. I wonder why.

 

Pot meet Kettle

 

And no, Bernie's actually a real politician, he's held office for several years already, unlike Trump, so intrinsicly they're not equal in terms of just raw experience in the field, and I'm also gonna do you a curteousy and ignore that last bit.

Hillary in turn, yes she has experience, I wont deny that, but she also has time and time again shown truly despicable behaviour both in terms of being able to manage a country, and as a person in general. Yes she's a politician, but she's not someone I would ever consider fit to rule a country.

 

 

 

I dont know if you're just honestly not giving enough of a s*** to think about it, so let me spell this out for you,

and I'll do it nice and short so maybe you'll pay attention this time.

 

Sander's supporters are in upproar because the election is objectively corrupt and being manipulated to silence them from expressing their voice. The odds of them actually being some form of problem once the election ends is slim to none, so yes, it isnt a problem Sanders didnt condemn the actions immediately. Also, news flash, not everyone has the details! Maybe they wanted to be more informed before making a statement on the matter, did you think about that? Trick question, ofcourse you didnt

 

I dont think I need to go into details for just what kind of moral views the Klan have, and franqly, I still am not satisfied with how Trump has attempted to distance himself from them, because it still lacks any kind of acknowledgement why the things the Klan stands for is wrong, and how it's absurd that their morals would be found within Trump's campaign (Helloooooo mass deportation of immigrants)

 

 

Last but not least, nice stinger. Now grow up if you intend to keep playing this game. 

That way I'll atleast have a challenge in proving you wrong

[Dad]

It's not free tuition at every level.  Only community colleges.  Pretty sure that was made clear forever ago.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Also, given Winter reminded me of it. 

 

Isn't it amusing that the most 'normal' or 'electable' candidate still in this electoral process is one who is under and FBI investigation for what amounts to either gross negligence or treason? In addition to adopting an Orwellian approach to social media control, and general abuse of money in politics. 

 

If that's not a definitive statement of how screwed up the process is god knows what is. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It's not free tuition at every level.  Only community colleges.  Pretty sure that was made clear forever ago.

Would still make the debt jump of Obama and Bush look minimalism. Only thing more idiotic is trying to deport /every/ illegal immigrant instead of just those with Violent Criminal records

[Aerion Brightflame]

Laz's high horse is the fact that when some trash heap endorses Trump it's Trump's fault, but when Bernie supporters threaten to murder children it's just people giving into anger, and def not Bernie's fault

 

You realize Cruz robbed Trump of Colorado too right? As in the polls showed that if it were a regular primary Trump would have massacred Cruz? Trump supporters either protested through burning their registration cards or in their peacefully rally outside the capital. They didn't throw chairs and send death threats

 

The double standard is the high horse

 

Except... I didn't talk about specifically Sander's being screwed by electoral fraud. I talked about it in general. It's just a gigantic problem across all branches of the election. The difference is that this specific example for Sanders, which was relevant to a point raised earlier, that was caught on tape. Which makes it a great example to show how f***ed up s*** is. 

 

And the reason there are some people hold a double standard about that s***, is because there is at least one documented instance of Trump actively supporting support violence against protesters: 

 

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them," Trump said. "Just knock the hell — I promise you, I'll pay the legal fees."

 

Which is unlike Sanders or Hilary. Yes, he has disavowed comments like this, but you can understand why people take a double standard with Trump. It is not a good thing to do, but you can see why they have comments to base it from. 

 

And I've talked about in other places why the KKK support required more dismissal than this did from Bernie, because Trump's campaign has a greater association with racism and intolerance than Sander's does for violence say even without that nomination. 

 

But again - Arguing about who gets screwed by the system more is a pretty shitty thing for us to be arguing. Because it's actively impeding us (And people in general) from say improving the god damn system instead. Instead, as I said before, accept there is a sheet tonne of stuff wrong with the state of affairs right now, and let's all try to to change that. 

 

Because that's something Trump and Sanders have in common. Both groups of supporters are tired of the system and want to see it change. They are suggesting radically different changes, and I agree with one set far more than the other, but they both want major change.