[RESULTS ARE FINAL] 2016 Election for President of the United States | Donald Trump Victory

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The throw down w/ Ted on the wives issue might actually hurt trump unless he spins this as a "I'll defend my country's honor just as I will my wife's" type deal

 

 

Got to give it to Cruz for having his support super pac make the add so he could ride away on his high horse

 

Also got to give credit to the Dems for being better than all this

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Back from the dead with an update: Sanders wins Alaska and Washington by about a 4-1 margin atm.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I wonder how much of an impact my college paying for all my expenses (collegewise) has on my disconnect with Sanders...cause the rest of y'all seem to worship the guy

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Just as a sidenote, Hawai'i is having its Democratic caucus today so results from there should be in later on.

 

(I would vote, but the location where I have to go is a bit out of my way [that, and polls close in a couple minutes])

[Goose]

If Sanders doesnt push Clinton below 15% it's not a win for those states

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I will admit that a lot of people at college down here support Sanders; that, and some of his supporters advertising on the side in the area where I live (coupled with the voting advertisements). With that in mind, majority of our representatives in Washington support Clinton (but Sanders has one from here).

 

Anyway, the polls are closed and results are being tallied up; will update this post as they become available; do be mindful that unlike the Republican's 45 precincts, we have 246 Democratic ones (because we're a blue state).

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I did say I'd report back on how Hawai'i voted in our Democratic caucus today, and here you go. 

 

At the time of writing, Sanders is winning by 41 points over Hillary with 88% reporting. It took them longer than expected (as in past the 7 pm mark that they would've liked) due to high voter turnout and some other issues; voters being turned away from the polls being a major problem today.

 

They agreed not to release figures until ALL data was accounted for. There is still the other 12% [which will be calculated in about an hour], but he essentially swept today (70.6% vs 29.2% on Hillary's end)

 

Our 25 regular delegates will be split between the two of them, so Sanders will not take all (but he's getting a good chunk of them).

 

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So yeah, #FeelTheBern

[Nathanael D. Striker]

4-1 in Alaska, 7-3 in Washington, and 7-3 in Hawaii for Sanders. Not a bad Saturday at all.

[Goose]

Aren't we back to good Clinton states now

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Aren't we back to good Clinton states now

Nope. Her good states were the South. The rest are fighting states and Bernie states iirc. Oregon seems to be a Bernie state.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Nope. Her good states were the South. The rest are fighting states and Bernie states iirc. Oregon seems to be a Bernie state.

 

On the otherhand there's still NY to go. 

 

Essentially Sanders needs these margin's everywhere, or to entirely sweep California and still win everything else to got the nod for certain, but hey whatever happens it's going down to the wire. 

[Goose]

Clinton is set to win the next five primaries according to polls. There's more to the story than the narrative /r/sandersforpresident writes. Clinton is going to win the next 4 and probably also California.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

On the otherhand there's still NY to go.

 

Essentially Sanders needs these margin's everywhere, or to entirely sweep California and still win everything else to got the nod for certain, but hey whatever happens it's going down to the wire.

One source I looked at allows Sanders to lose D.C. and Maryland iirc. New York is a Clinton state, but you have to remember that Sanders was originally from Brooklyn. And yes, California is the prize that will decide it.

And Welche, watch what you are implying please. I take offense to your implication.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Please let sanders win, Republicans will come out in droves to vote against him. And I got my visa confirmed just in case the worse happens

[Goose]

Sanders outdoes every republican in head to heads

[Aerion Brightflame]

 

Please let sanders win, Republicans will come out in droves to vote against him. And I got my visa confirmed just in case the worse happens

 

1) They are already out in droves. Voter turn-out has been at a high for basically every republican primary across the entire event. 

2) They will come out to vote against Hilary more than for Sanders. They can yell and scream Socialist all they want, but Sanders would make either Cruz or Trump argue to the issues in the debates, which they won't succeed on. Particularly not Cruz. 

3) Sanders wins against both candidates in most polls. 

4) Look at how close the Dem nomination has gotten. Clinton should have had this in the bag from name recognition alone. It says a lot about either Sanders ability to pull voters over time, or Clinton's ability to undermine herself. Or both.

5) The Republicans have probably two decades worth of dirt to throw at Hillary. And next to none on Sanders, other than you know 'socialst/commie' but he can argue against that reputation, and has been doing so all campaign, successfully. 

 

Either way, Clinton seems more favourable a match-up to them. The only evidence against that I can see is that some Republicans have been funding hate ads against Hilary. But that could just be them wanting to drag the Dem nomination out even further. I also don't see why you'd need a visa if Sanders got in. 

 

 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 

 

 

1) They are already out in droves. Voter turn-out has been at a high for basically every republican primary across the entire event. 

2) They will come out to vote against Hilary more than for Sanders. They can yell and scream Socialist all they want, but Sanders would make either Cruz or Trump argue to the issues in the debates, which they won't succeed on. Particularly not Cruz. 

3) Sanders wins against both candidates in most polls. 

4) Look at how close the Dem nomination has gotten. Clinton should have had this in the bag from name recognition alone. It says a lot about either Sanders ability to pull voters over time, or Clinton's ability to undermine herself. Or both.

5) The Republicans have probably two decades worth of dirt to throw at Hillary. And next to none on Sanders, other than you know 'socialst/commie' but he can argue against that reputation, and has been doing so all campaign, successfully. 

 

Either way, Clinton seems more favourable a match-up to them. The only evidence against that I can see is that some Republicans have been funding hate ads against Hilary. But that could just be them wanting to drag the Dem nomination out even further. I also don't see why you'd need a visa if Sanders got in. 

 

 

 

1) Not all the primary republican votes will vote from Trump

 

2) Agree on that matter, but a socialist would scare the Republicans a lot more than a Neo-democrat

 

 

3) As is Hillary

 

4) Point, this weekend was a shame for Hillary

 

5) Point again.

 

Let's be honest Tom, Republican's ain't winning either way, and a lot of republicans are willing to vote Hills over trump

 

Anyway, Trump is slowing down based on Louisiana, a Cruz vs Sanders race is a nightmare, and will get 1 of two people I can't stand in office

 

As for Cruz

 

Like Obama -- Cruz says it's not his fault (Utah) or he didn't know (Iowa & Hawaii).

 

Like Obama -- Cruz's records are sealed.

 

Like Moochella - Goldman-Sachs promoted Heidi 9 days after Cruz sworn into office.

 

Like an entitled politician -- Cruz received a 1% interest loan from Goldman-Sachs.

 

Like an owned politician -- Cruz's 4th largets contributor is Goldman-Sachs.

 

Raphael aka "Ted" Cruz has planned this all his life. Every move he's made has been to project a false image. He's nothing more than selfish and greedy -- even at the expense of his family.

 

Donald Trump doesn't need a job, money or a career. He's doing it because he's tired of watching the establishment (Republican and Democrat) turn this country into a 3rd world nation and turn all of us into their slaves.

 

Trump is the first one to stand up to them and give us a voice. And he isn't owned by lobbyists and major donors. He's doing it for YOU and YOUR FAMILY.

 

I don't care if you're a Democrat voting Sanders or Hills, but if you're voting right, do us a favor and don't vote for the snake

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Well, I got solicitation from Clinton asking for money. It's amusing considering I'm a Sanders supporter. Also amusing since Oregon's primary is in May. I assume she is worried.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Well, I got solicitation from Clinton asking for money. It's amusing considering I'm a Sanders supporter. Also amusing since Oregon's primary is in May. I assume she is worried.

Aren't frat males typically conservative?

 

I had some bernie folks come door knocking too, that was a fun encounter 

 

Wonder what made them think that I was a fan of Sanders

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Aren't frat males typically conservative?

 

I had some bernie folks come door knocking too, that was a fun encounter

 

Wonder what made them think that I was a fan of Sanders

Dude, my fraternity brothers are mainly from Oregon and Washington. Typically yes due to the bigger schools in the South (fraternity HQs tend to be in the South), but not my chapter.

 

And I imagine they are knocking on everyone's door for support and to spread the word. Kinda different than a mail solicitation for money.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Dude, my fraternity brothers are mainly from Oregon and Washington. Typically yes due to the bigger schools in the South (fraternity HQs tend to be in the South), but not my chapter.

 

And I imagine they are knocking on everyone's door for support and to spread the word. Kinda different than a mail solicitation for money.

Huhn, guess that makes sense. I was pretty much the most liberal guy in mine afaik...which kinda speaks volumes

 

Yup, I had a fun little convo with them all the same haha

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Ateast you had a nice conversation with them. If they can't get you support, then a civilized discussion is the next best thing.

There is at least one Trump supporter in my fraternity (he's from Gold Beach, OR), but he doesn't fit the stereotypical portrayal of a Trump supporter. We had a nice conversation about our views as well as Trump and Sanders a few weeks ago actually.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Ateast you had a nice conversation with them. If they can't get you support, then a civilized discussion is the next best thing.

There is at least one Trump supporter in my fraternity (he's from Gold Beach, OR), but he doesn't fit the stereotypical portrayal of a Trump supporter. We had a nice conversation about our views as well as Trump and Sanders a few weeks ago actually.

Yeah, there's no need for aggression, just throwing out an emotion-filled barrage of words really doesn't help either side. Funny enough, our grievances kinda lined up pretty well 

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Yeah, there's no need for aggression, just throwing out an emotion-filled barrage of words really doesn't help either side. Funny enough, our grievances kinda lined up pretty well

Indeed. And both Trump and Sanders are populist candidates, so there is that similarity. The difference is how they use that.

[epicmemesbro]

I hypothesize that the Republican party will split into two groups. I've noticed that the candidates are not emphasizing the one thing that lead to the creation of the party in the first place: free labor. What is free labor exactly? Free labor is the ideal that a citizen can choose where they wish to work in an attempt to "move ahead in life". During the mid 1800's people within the party had this idea and clashed with the other half. This resulted in those favoring this concept to form the Republican party. Much like the Whig party split then, I feel it will happen now the Republican party. The party appears to be having an identity crisis already, and there is already quarreling going on within them. If they don't have a rebirth of what it means to be a Republican, the party as we know it may be no more.