[SPFE] Predator Plants

[Slinky]

Predator Plant – Drosophyllum Hydra
DARK/Plant
Level 5
800/2300
(1) You can Special Summon this card (from your hand or Graveyard) by tributing 1 monster with a predator counter on the field. You can only Special Summon “Predator Plant – Drosophyllum Hydra” this way once per turn.
(2) During either player’s turn, if this card is in your field or Graveyard: you can banish 1 “Predator Plant” monster in your Graveyard except this card, then target 1 monster on the field; it loses 500 ATK. You can only use this effect of “Predator Plant – Drosophyllum Hydra” once per turn.

Predator Plant – Sarraceniant
DARK/Plant
Level 1
100/600
(1) When an opponent’s monster declares a direct attack: You can Special Summon this card from your hand.
(2) After damage calculation in which this card battled with an opponent’s monster: You can destroy that opponent’s monster.
(3) If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard by a card effect, or if this card is destroyed in battle: you can add 1 “Predator” card from your Deck to your hand, except “Predator Plant – Sarraceniant”. You can only use this effect of “Predator Plant – Sarraceniant” once per turn.

Predator Plant – Spino Dionaea
DARK/Plant
Level 4
1800/0
(1) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can target 1 face-up monster the opponent controls; place 1 predator counter on it. (Level 2 or higher monsters with a Predator Counter become Level 1.)
(2) After damage calculation in which this card battled with a monster with a Level equal or lower than this card: You can Special Summon 1 “Predator Plant” monster from your Deck, except “Predator Plant – Spino Dionaea”.

Predator Graft
Equip Spell Card
(1) Target 1 “Predator Plant” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it and equip it with this card. When this card leaves the field, destroy that monster.

Predator Planet
Continuous Trap Card
(1) If a monster(s) with a predator counter leaves the field while you control this card in your Spell & Trap Zone: add 1 “Predator” card from your Deck to your hand. You can only use this effect of “Predator Planet” once per turn.
(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard; fusion summon 1 fusion monster from your Extra Deck using only “Predator Plant” monsters in your hand or field as fusion materials.

[Bringerofcake]

 

(1) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can target 1 face-up monster the opponent controls; place 1 predator counter on it. (Level 2 or higher monsters with a Predator Counter become Level 1.)

F I N A L L Y

 

Reliable Counter dropping is what the deck actually needed to be cohesive, and the fact that Dionea actually has a body means that neat sheet can happen as a result

[The Warden]

With Hydra, it's nice at least that he can SS himself from the graveyard too. Honestly though, it's be SOOO much better if his second effect placed a Predator Counter in lieu of nerfing something.

 

Sarra? I'll take 3. Grabs any Predator card by being sent from the field. Plus it nukes whatever attacks it. Not bad as a booby trap. Much better than Pteropenthes in that regard.

 

Spino is also nice as a legit attacker, and it farts out a counter on NS or SS, which is lovely. It's a pity Hydra doesn't ave better ATK, since he can SS any PredPlant from the deck.

 

Predator Graft is SO much better than Planter, since it doesn't negate what it summons. Plus it's searchable thanks to Hidden Armory and Sarra. It's also unrestricted, so you can revive Chimera Rafflesia.

 

Predator Planet is interesting, but it's grave effect only lets you summon Starving or Chimera. And there are better ways to make those. The search is legit though. Maybe a 1-off?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Is Hydra a kaiju or is it just me?

[Neochu-H]

YESSS

 

 

ALL OF THE YESSS

 

NOW MY PREDATOR PLANTS AREN'T GONNA BE RANDOM CRAPPY PLANT MONSTERS WITH 3 PREDATOR PLANTS

[The Warden]

Is Hydra a kaiju or is it just me?

 

It's just you. I'd rather use Sundew to remove a monster with a PredCounter than Hydra.

 

By the by, I just checked the booster pack. With these guys, there's at least 1 to 3 more possible PredPlant monsters. But no more S/Ts.

[Pchi]

Predator Planet is interesting, but it's grave effect only lets you summon Starving or Chimera. And there are better ways to make those. The search is legit though. Maybe a 1-off?

 

There are still 3 spaces left for PP. Hopefully we get a Fusion or two, though, and preferrably 1 more Main Deck monster with a reliable way to place Predator Counters on the field.

[The Warden]

Well, we have 2 reliable source now, what with Fly Hell and Spino. So yeah, 1 more will be gladly appreciated. Also, given Hydra is a 5, I suspect we might get a level 8 non-fusion PredPlant.

 

EDIT: Just saw this via wiki: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Plant_Dragostapelia. So yeah, we WILL be getting more fusions at least.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It's just you. I'd rather use Sundew to remove a monster with a PredCounter than Hydra.

 

By the by, I just checked the booster pack. With these guys, there's at least 1 to 3 more possible PredPlant monsters. But no more S/Ts.

Sundew is the guy who'll let you super-poly yes? If we're thinking of the same card it's that you need to summon him, this can't be negated with Strike and won't fall pittfall to most Traps since it tributes for cost

[The Warden]

But see, even then, you're wasting a potential Chimera/Starve Venom in favour of a weak, 2300 DEF wall that doesn't even aid the deck's strategy.

[Pchi]

Well, we have 2 reliable source now, what with Fly Hell and Spino. So yeah, 1 more will be gladly appreciated. Also, given Hydra is a 5, I suspect we might get a level 8 non-fusion PredPlant.

 

EDIT: Just saw this via wiki: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Plant_Dragostapelia. So yeah, we WILL be getting more fusions at least.

 

Squid Drosera also does its job fine, but not nearly as good as the aforementioned 2, thanks to requiring more setup. Pterophentes is sheet, though (my apologies to all pterosaur enthusiasts).

Yeah, but that Fusion coming out as a V-Jump Promo, though. We still need to wait for confirmation SPFE-wise.

[The Warden]

Problem is is that Squid now shares NS rights with Spino, Sundew, and Lonefire~

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Problem is is that Squid now shares NS rights with Spino, Sundew, and Lonefire~

Well you do have things like Miracle Fertilizer and such to moderate up your ceiling 

But see, even then, you're wasting a potential Chimera/Starve Venom in favour of a weak, 2300 DEF wall that doesn't even aid the deck's strategy.

Sure, I'm just saying it's a searchable superior form of removal in cases where an effect might be negated, think CDI clones

[The Warden]

Well you do have things like Miracle Fertilizer and such to moderate up your ceiling 

Sure, I'm just saying it's a searchable superior form of removal in cases where an effect might be negated, think CDI clones

 

Using Miracle Fert means you can't NS/Set that turn. So same problem.

 

Also, wouldn't the CDI just negate your attempt to apply a PredCounter then? Since all of them (I believe) are activated effects.

[Pchi]

Problem is is that Squid now shares NS rights with Spino, Sundew, and Lonefire~

Dunno, I still don't feel like dropping it entirely right now, the deck is still in desperate need for more Predator Counters, and while Squid only affects SS monsters, at least it doesn't target and gets all the opponent's field, so I'm gonna need a few tests and see what else future holds to PP before giving up on it for good.

[The Warden]

I'm not saying you should drop it, I'mm just saying with Spino, Lonefire, and Sundew the PredPlant NS is an awful lot tighter despite their myriad SS tactics.

[The Highlander]

Well:

1.)

[...] Honestly though, it's be SOOO much better if his second effect placed a Predator Counter in lieu of nerfing something [...]

Well that is quite true, (sadly) as it is right now it only serves as a combo extender, however is inferior to kingii in about every noteworthy aspect.

 

2.) 3-off ... well letus be honest right here, it is a kuriboh/damage juggler type of a handtrap, which, unlike juggler, allows the user to search a card each time it goes to the grave (though the argument can be made that juggler sets up a leviair play).

This card is simply amazing, it is a searcher, a protective handtrap and can even search the spells/trap(s) (including planter, which does not prevent its floating effect) and is the first solid target for planter (except perhaps squid, though that can turn into a far more specific scenario), considering it even floats if it gets used as fusion material, which in return allows it (alongside predator planter) to start a similar loop as the one, which altair and deneb can start (including only them) with sundew kingii.

 

3.) Surprisingly enough (looking at moray and hydra) another solid card in this list (usually only 0-1 solid PP per reveal), considering it is a Fly Hell, which can become problematic quite fast (and if one is willing to sacrifice the battle phase one can use it to "1-card" sundew kingii an opponent's monster).

 

4.) Both worse and better than planter in certain aspects (worse: only once    ,     better: (no cost), no negation).

 

5.) Propably a (2-3)-off, considering it doubles as an amazing (even if somewhat slow) searcher for the archtype (considering spinos into kingii and fly hell are searches on top of what they do).

One might ask why I assume this might be a (2-3)-off ... well one would propably want to draw 1 copy and the others double as targets for foolish burial of belongings, which turns this into an Ell-Shaddoll Fusion.

 

All in all decent cards, the archtype starts to work and all, however right now the archtype is still rather fragile.

[Lee Cheng Men]

I think the other three spaces was for the Predator Plants from the Invasion: Vengeance Pack.

 

Anyway, Hydra acts like a Kaiju for the Predator Plant, but I really hope it's second effect was placing Predator Counter instead of reducing ATK.

 

Sarra was a pretty good searcher which adds any Predator card if it is nuked. Plus it destroys whatever attacks it. Much useful than the Pteropenthes.

 

Spino places a counter if Summoned and can SS any Predator Plants from the deck, which is cute.

 

Predator Graft is better version of Planter, it doesn't negate what it summons, also, you don't need to play Life Points.

 

Predator Planet is interesting, fetches a Predator Card if a monster with Predator Counter pops out. Second effect seems... Okay, summons Chimerafflesia, Dragostapela, or Starve Venom.

 

Thanks to the new PredPlant Fusion, so I don't need to waste my Stave Venom for Greedy Venom.

[Slinky]

Guys.

Hydra can't tribute an opponent's monster. It lacks the "either side of the field" wording that Super Poly and Chimeratech Fortress have.

 

Unless this is a premature translation error (its possible).

[玄魔の王]

"Jibun mataha aite fiirudo"

 

It can tribute from either side.

[Lee Cheng Men]

Guys.

Hydra can't tribute an opponent's monster. It lacks the "either side of the field" wording that Super Poly and Chimeratech Fortress have.

 

Unless this is a premature translation error (its possible).

It's definitely a translation error, cuz most of the Predator Plants places Predator Counters on the "opponent's" monster instead of their controller's.

[goodfusion]

I love this archetype now. The artwork alone makes it great.

[BlackBeartic]

So "Predaplants" are the TCG name.

 

Guess i'ma call it by the OCG name like usual. Idek why they changed this one.

[evilfusion]

The TCG name is "Predaplants"? I feel like someone totally called that one ages ago.

 

And it's just kind of whatever.

 

I am, however, super pleased that they've gotten this much support, although it has to be really examined and tested to see whether it's any good.

 

So...how is the TCG going to handle the fact the support cards search "Predator" cards, which would include both the support S/Ts, but also the monsters themselves? Just having it search "Predaplant" and making all the support cards named "Predaplant X"? Eh, whatever.

 

Combined with all the usual Plant support, this archetype could end up at least mildly decent, hopefully at least in line with Speedroids or Phantom Knights.

 

Seriously, maybe it's partially due to my fondness of Yuri and Starve Venom, but I want to use this Deck, even as a hyper-casual thing.

[The Warden]

I'm still waiting for DevPro to get Sundew, and then along with these cards I can test out my Shaddoll and Yubel variants of the deck. The fact that Greedy Venom makes Yubel and her evolutions not dead in the hand is so delightful.