-kyo- Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 SPFE-JP005 捕食植物サンデウ・キンジー Predator Plant Sundew KingiiLevel 2 DARK Plant-Type Effect MonsterATK 600DEF 200You can only use the (2)nd effect of “Predator Plant Sundew Kingii” once per turn.(1) When you use a monster(s) with a Predator Counter(s) as Fusion Material, treat its Attribute as DARK.(2) During your Main Phase: You can activate this effect; Fusion Summon 1 DARK Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters in your hand, monsters you control, and/or monsters with Predator Counters your opponent controls as Fusion Material, but you must use this card on the field. https://ygorganization.com/19105-2/ this sounds like super fusion,or am i wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Pretty sure they are Predator Counters, not Prey. (at least according to the wiki) Now we need a searcher and this might become a decent archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 This solves several problems (though it almost obsoletes planter for fusion summons) and getting a PPlant + this out, without Planter (as it negates) is a new problem. All in all amazing support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Themed Super Poly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Now we need a searcher and this might become a decent archetype. What about lonefire ? (Not to mention the lonefire + soul charge interactions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Pretty sure they are Predator Counters, not Prey. (at least according to the wiki) Now we need a searcher and this might become a decent archetype.its called lonefire, that's as good asYou're gettingWhat about lonefire ? (Not to mention the lonefire + soul charge interactions)Damn you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Actually this card sounds rather decent with super solar nutrient, as in fly hell place a counter or squid drosera, tribute to summon this and fuse right away (of course the usefulness stacks even further with lonefire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Right, I forgot about Lonefire Blossom, but I'm still expecting a searcher for Predator Plants only. If Yuya's (Sky Iris/Sorcerer/Monkeyboard/P. Call/Joker), Yuto's (Most of PK monster grave effs) and Yugo's (Terrortop) decks got a searcher, there's a chance for PPs as well. C'mon Konami, don't fail me now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 This is an Ancient Gear Hound on crack and I already was pretty fond of AGH, Trump Girl, etc. These self fusion enabling monsters were a fantastic idea on Konami's part. This card alone does a lot for the deck. As mentioned Super Solar Nutrient after Fly Trap or Squid Drosera enables some plays. Summoning this after using Predator Planter to get back something from the grave feels like a solid in-theme way to use Starve Venom. Also, the Super Poly effect of this gives the deck a way to get Xyz off the field now. If we get Violet Flash, this works nicely with its draw effect. Between this and Rafflesia and the fact we still have about 7-8 cards to go, I'm really liking this deck's potential so far. Being a plant-based DARK deck already gives them a lot of indirect support and tech options. Like I'm thinking Evil Thorn could be decent here, it thins the deck, acts as SSN and Lonefire fodder, and gives appropriate fusion material for Rafflesia and Starve Venom. Dead copies in hand are Allure food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 This... this is just fantastic. It's a plant shaped like a frill-neck lizard, and... that effect is GORGEOUS! It instantly solves the need to rely on Poly, makes it stupidly easy to make Chimera Rafflesia (that 1 DARK mat makes SOOOO much sense now), and obviously goes into Starving Venom too. This... this is just so much amazing in one card it's insane. But then, it's not like there was a lot of competition to begin with. Either way, this is hand's down the best Predator Plant. You can also lol a lot by using Miracle Fertilizer over Predator Planter. EDIT: Actually, now that I look at it again, I don't think this thing actually uses itself as a fusion material, but instead just to instigate the fusion. EDIT x2: Oh wait, the Org has updated text. (2) You can Fusion Summon 1 DARK Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, by sending monsters from your hand/and or field, and/or monsters your opponent controls with Predator Counters, to the Graveyard as the Fusion Material including this card. Yeah, false alarm on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 You know what would be fun with this deck? A Chimerarech Overdragon-esque Predator Plant, something like 1 Predator Plant + 1 or More DARK monsters. It'd act as a potential field wipe + game ender after a Squid into Sundew play. Feels appropriate for Yuri's style too and lets them do another GX reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 You know what would be fun with this deck? A Chimerarech Overdragon-esque Predator Plant, something like 1 Predator Plant + 1 or More DARK monsters. It'd act as a potential field wipe + game ender after a Squid into Sundew play. Feels appropriate for Yuri's style too and lets them do another GX reference.Sounds interesting, and would make a lot of sense. Being a plant-based DARK deck already gives them a lot of indirect support and tech options.Botanical Girl, Lonefire Blossom (and thus soul charge as well), Rose Archer, Spore, Super Solar Nutrient, Miracle Fertilizer, Mark of the Rose, Pollinosis, Allure of Darkness and the Virus series (most notably being crush card and eradicator).Edit: As well as DAD. Either way, this is hand's down the best Predator Plant. You can also lol a lot by using Miracle Fertilizer over Predator Planter.1.) I would count it as one of the best, considering chimera is similarly amazing, considering its materials and effects., however you might be right, considering it is a strictly better A.G. Hunting Hound and the impact of that kind of design, though rafflesia's design is almost the same.2.) Planter however does not expire after its targets being used as fusion material, though I would say both are usable and fertilizer is mostly a monster reborn for sundew kingii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 This card opens up so many doors! Really liking what this spells out for the future potential of Predator Plants. A lot has already been said on it, so not a lot more I could add, but I really am liking where this is going. I think the key now is to get this card + DARK on the field consistently enough and from there you have a Deck. Also not sure how relevant this will end up being, but it is cute to note that summoning a Predator Plant, activating a Super Solar Nutrient to summon this, then fusing afterward sets up 3 DARKs in the Grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 EDIT x2: Oh wait, the Org has updated text. (2) You can Fusion Summon 1 DARK Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, by sending monsters from your hand/and or field, and/or monsters your opponent controls with Predator Counters, to the Graveyard as the Fusion Material including this card. Yeah, false alarm on my part.Yeah, the Japanese text confirmed it used itself, Ark was just unsure how to word it so I suggested that reading to him. Also, now you know why Planter has to negate effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Because Konami is against making fun archetypes/cards good unless they're money cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Because Konami is against making fun archetypes/cards good unless they're money cards.No, I was going for "because OPT Super Poly is absurd." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Well, the opponent's monster needs a Predator Counter first, and the only 2 current ways to do that is by having Fly Trap target a monster while on the field, or by sending Squid from the field to the grave. So, they really don't have very many good ways to spread their counters yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Rose Lover might make a good tech also, bring it out via One for One (which you'll run if you decide to add Bulb and Spore) or Lonefire and it's basically a one-turn from hand Predator Planter that you can ditch with Super Solar Nutrient (which I'm convinced will be really good in this deck) that doesn't negate effect, leading to possible big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 So while this doesn't directly fix issues that Predator Plants have- Not that we really care about them- It's basically a retooled Dark Hex that can use opponent's monsters. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Super Poly without using Super Poly. I like.We do need more though. A small bit off topic though I love the fact that it's a demonic plant lizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Oh, this is vicious. It makes you able to Super Poly your opponent's monsters for either Starve Venom or Chimera, and also treats them as DARK. This will definitely help Predator Plants with their Fusion plays. The real trick right now is not about this card itself, but more the placing of the counters in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kyo- Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 effect update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 because of this card, i will tech one shaddoll monster, just to throw out a random winda lock at people from time to time. solve fusion problems, it's essentially free removal if there's ever a way to throw predator counters around (via spell/trap), will easily turn dead hands into fusion fodder. helps combo with shaddolls if there's ever a reason to mix them. it's a solid card, if the rest of the plants are this nice, we've got ourselves a playable archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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