Ritual Beast Tamer Winda-RATE

[Darj]

I think it's supposed to go like:

 

Previous DT events -> Winda dies somewhere here -> flash forward to DUEA time -> Winda is revived -> do Doll things -> sacrificed as seen in Nephe-doll fusion -> some remnants remained -> presumably purified by the Zefra after they someone beat Tierra and returns to normal.

 

The issue is really there's a huge gap between now, the previous set's shenanigans, and Tierra's awakening.

 

Yeah, this is what I think happened. Even her purple dress resembles El Shaddoll Winda's.

Now what puzzles me is that the art of Zefrawendi implies that she wasn't fully restored when she turned into a Zefra (notice how her artwork still retains some dress parts from her Wendigo form); whereas this Tamer Winda appears to be fully restored. I wonder what are the meaning and implications of this difference: Does this mean Tierra was, or will be, defeated in the DT storyline? Was the power of Shaddolls and their curses dispelled? Perhaps we will get to see the return of Satellarknight Sirius and the other monsters who were cursed or taken over by Shaddolls as well? Will we get yet another Wendi form that depicts her fully restored?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I think it's supposed to go like:

 

Previous DT events -> Winda dies somewhere here -> flash forward to DUEA time -> Winda is revived -> do Doll things -> sacrificed as seen in Nephe-doll fusion -> some remnants remained -> presumably purified by the Zefra after they someone beat Tierra and returns to normal.

 

The issue is really there's a huge gap between now, the previous set's shenanigans, and Tierra's awakening.

I think there's potential that Neph fusion wasn't killing her rather removing the power Construct imbued on her. With that power gone, she's not tainted anymore. So, I dunno if we're really missing that much

[Maeriberii Haan]

I think there's potential that Neph fusion wasn't killing her rather removing the power Construct imbued on her. With that power gone, she's not tainted anymore. So, I dunno if we're really missing that much

 

Even then, her being peaceful and all in the art of this is a disconnect too.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Even then, her being peaceful and all in the art of this is a disconnect too.

Yeah, hmm so the flowers are growing? Suggesting the calm after the storm or maybe she's fighting to keep some part of her utopia alive. She looks sad more than anything. Either Tierra is dead, or Tierra won and this is like the last refuge. In both cases you're right we need 2-3 more cards. Which is where the Shaddoll and Nekroz cards in RATE will come in I imagine

[Jord200]

Plus given Neph is the True Villian ( well TECHNICALLY a part of the villain ), do you really think she would go

 

"Hm. I don't need you anymore. I'll just remove the curse I put on you, and used to raise your dead body. That way you can live happy!~ :D"

All we know right now is that the Zefra and allies are fighting Terria, something happened to Sombres in that either she's dead/got aborbed by Terria/Neph, or she some how and for some reason fused with Neph.

 

There is something with Quilphort Tool.

 

And something happened to Wendy and or Lara/Naturia Gaiapello.

 

I imagine we might get a card to explain why Winda is now alive again, and not a demonic puppet monster.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Plus given Neph is the True Villian ( well TECHNICALLY a part of the villain ), do you really think she would go

 

"Hm. I don't need you anymore. I'll just remove the curse I put on you, and used to raise your dead body. That way you can live happy!~ :D"

All we know right now is that the Zefra and allies are fighting Terria, something happened to Sombres in that either she's dead/got aborbed by Terria/Neph, or she some how and for some reason fused with Neph.

 

There is something with Quilphort Tool.

 

And something happened to Wendy and or Lara/Naturia Gaiapello.

 

I imagine we might get a card to explain why Winda is now alive again, and not a demonic puppet monster.

Villains typically don't follow through and kill all their underlings off. JS

[Pchi]

They just found a way to purify Midrash back into Winda, and she somehow was fully ressurected instead of dying again after being freed from Nephilim's influence. I hope they go into further detail with the next card reveals, but I wouldn't think too hard about it. It's as simple as that, in my view.

[Airride]

 

 

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Seems that it is the case. My apologies.

Would Gold Sarc and Speedroids be good in the deck? Or am I late to the party?

Gold sarc defo seems good. Not sure about speedroid though, explain why those would be good because I haven't looked at them much. I assume to make Leviair?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Seems that it is the case. My apologies.

Gold sarc defo seems good. Not sure about speedroid though, explain why those would be good because I haven't looked at them much. I assume to make Leviair?

Yeh, leviair that doesn't take up your normal summon. Break Sword would be cool too, but they beatriced this chick

[Blake]

Well, I realized what's happening here, thanks to the confirmed name.

 

The "Spiritual Beasts" are, well, just that. They are the elemtnal spirits of the Naturia Forest (where the Gusto reside) given physical forms. Rampengu is unknown exactly, but the other three are confirmed to be spirits given form.
 

So if this is a SPIRITual Beast Tamer, it's because she's dead. This is her spirit being given form. It's not a reincarnation, per se, but her soul is free because her body (Midrash/El-Shaddoll Winda) is finally dead.

 

What sells this even more is that, unlike the other tamers, the naturia foliage/curl is located ON her body instead of being on her staff/an accessory/etc., unlike the beasts.

 

Of note, Rampengu also lacks one of these on his body, lending it to the idea that he's 100% alive, unlike the others. 

 

Pettlephin also lacks one on its body, outright, but has patterns similar to them. And we've already seen non-physical beings corrupted by the Shaddoll (See: Sinister Shadow Games), so it's not impossible for a spirit to be turned.

 

TL;DR: This is winda's lingering spirit given form. It's not a beast, but it is a spirit. Thus it is a Spirt...Tamer.

[Ebon]

The "Spiritual Beasts" are, well, just that. They are the elemtnal spirits of the Naturia Forest (where the Gusto reside) given physical forms. Rampengu is unknown exactly, but the other three are confirmed to be spirits given form.

When was this information confirmed? I had also theorized something akin to this, but I never really had any real confirmation on it.

[Blake]

When was this information confirmed? I had also theorized something akin to this, but I never really had any real confirmation on it.

one of konami's elusive lore dumps

 

when we got lore on the infernoids, nekroz, and ritual beasts, it said they were spirits given form (thanks to Leo, iirc?). Probably one of the master guides, but can't remember exacts, because it's been like 1.5+ years now.

[Ebon]

I really like this card overall. It's like one of those cards that doesn't really do anything overly amazing on its own but serves a lot of cool smaller roles in its deck. Being both a Tamer and Spiritual Beast makes her useful on name alone, but she also happens to be level 4 which makes her a great target to tag into if you need to get Chidori or Emeral (if Ulti-Cannahawk is in your Grave), or to rank 4 in general. Her effect while being a cute reference also serves a variety of cool plays, depending on the situation. Awesome card, imo.

 

On a side not, her stats are exactly what you would get if you added up Gusto/Shaddoll Falco and Winda, Priestess of Gusto.

Level 2 (600/1400)+ Level 2 (1000/400)=Level 4 (1600/1800)

So that may have some form of relevance.

[Blake]

On a side not, her stats are exactly what you would get if you added up Gusto/Shaddoll Falco and Winda, Priestess of Gusto.

Level 2 (600/1400)+ Level 2 (1000/400)=Level 4 (1600/1800)

So that may have some form of relevance.

I'd been wondering if Falco could be involved today, but hadn't had a chance to check the stats.

 

It does make sense that she's both a beast AND a tamer, so probably is something to it, because that's just too convenient.

[VCR_CAT]

I'd been wondering if Falco could be involved today, but hadn't had a chance to check the stats.

 

It does make sense that she's both a beast AND a tamer, so probably is something to it, because that's just too convenient.

 

Which triggered an idea re: the whole "age problem". The Spiritual Beasts that are tamed are spirits from the forest, not just animals. Seeing as Winda is both a Spiritual Beast and a Tamer, it's not too much of a stretch in my mind  that this Winda isn't a physical reincarnation, but rather Winda's spirit.

[Blake]

Which triggered an idea re: the whole "age problem". The Spiritual Beasts that are tamed are spirits from the forest, not just animals. Seeing as Winda is both a Spiritual Beast and a Tamer, it's not too much of a stretch in my mind  that this Winda isn't a physical reincarnation, but rather Winda's spirit.

I kinda already said that...