1st Step to a Cancer Solution

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2016/aug/23/magnetic-bacteria-target-hard-to-treat-tumours

 

It's basically a guidance system to find Tumors

[Dad]

It's by no means a cure.  When I think "cure" I think a permanent solution that will end cancer before it begins.  But this is a major key to success to finding and stopping cancer at extremely early stages, to prevent it from spreading.  Hell of an advancement for man kind.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It's by no means a cure.  When I think "cure" I think a permanent solution that will end cancer before it begins.  But this is a major key to success to finding and stopping cancer at extremely early stages, to prevent it from spreading.  Hell of an advancement for man kind.

It would certainly make treatment a ton nicer if you could just get this done instead of Chemo+Rad

[Dad]

It would certainly make treatment a ton nicer if you could just get this done instead of Chemo+Rad

 

For the next ten~ years, I would assume this type of treatment can't be afforded by anyone in the middle class.  But I do think it would save people a lot of pain and suffering honestly.

[vla1ne]

cancer is, if i recall correctly, mutations in your genes that cause your cells to grow wildly, poisoning you from the inside out. there is no real cure for your own body glitching out on you, the closes thing to a cure we could get for cancer would be faster detection and a comprehensive chart of treatments depending upon the location and function of the affected organs. curing it would be pretty much impossible at this stage in history, but increasingly effective, less damaging treatment would definitely be within our current range.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

cancer is, if i recall correctly, mutations in your genes that cause your cells to grow wildly, poisoning you from the inside out. there is no real cure for your own body glitching out on you, the closes thing to a cure we could get for cancer would be faster detection and a comprehensive chart of treatments depending upon the location and function of the affected organs. curing it would be pretty much impossible at this stage in history, but increasingly effective, less damaging treatment would definitely be within our current range.

Not entirely true. Basically your protein reactions don't work well. The g1 gate is usually flawed so instead of going from g1 (growth phase 1) to s phase (dna replication) your cell goes to a g0 phase where it just keeps growing. We could theoretically target and over saturate confirmed working proteins in high risk areas to exclude the cancer cells from being the dominant life form in the area

[vla1ne]

Not entirely true. Basically your protein reactions don't work well. The g1 gate is usually flawed so instead of going from g1 (growth phase 1) to s phase (dna replication) your cell goes to a g0 phase where it just keeps growing. We could theoretically target and over saturate confirmed working proteins in high risk areas to exclude the cancer cells from being the dominant life form in the area

so it's still your body glitching out, just without the poison, and with a sole cause, not as varied as i expected. in either case, an actually permanent cure would still be nigh impossible with our current tech. not impossible forever, just beyond our current reach.

[Aix]

so it's still your body glitching out, just without the poison, and with a sole cause, not as varied as i expected. in either case, an actually permanent cure would still be nigh impossible with our current tech. not impossible forever, just beyond our current reach.

And with what basis do you say that?

[vla1ne]

And with what basis do you say that?

we don't have enough control over the human genome to solve the problem at it's core right now. in 20-30 years i could see a leap in knowledge helping us cure it, but as it stands, while we are definitely capable of finding the problem faster than ever before, and treating it better than the standard radiation therapy, we aren't at the level of ability, so far as human genes are related, to actually implement a guaranteed cure. there's still many thing's we simply don't have down yet that would be needed to provide a guaranteed effective cure to all patients, many of those things are being heavily protested at the moment though, such as stem cell and cloning research.

 

actually, we're rather close to a potent cure imo, we've come a long way in stem cell, coning, and related fields of research, that would heavily contribute to curing, and possibly even preventing, cancer, but we would have to break more than a few human rights codes to get there in under two or three decades.

[Zauls]

I'm not a scientist, but I'm fairly sure treatments that are far superior to chemotherapy etc. have existed for quite some time. I remember reading an article that explains the only reason chemo is still used is because it's profitable and that it actually does far more harm than good. Exposure to chemo drugs actually increases the risk of cancer in chemo nurses. This new step may be able to help, but it won't become readily available unless it profits pharmaceutical companies.

[Trebuchet MS]

Not entirely true. Basically your protein reactions don't work well. The g1 gate is usually flawed so instead of going from g1 (growth phase 1) to s phase (dna replication) your cell goes to a g0 phase where it just keeps growing. We could theoretically target and over saturate confirmed working proteins in high risk areas to exclude the cancer cells from being the dominant life form in the area

Not exactly. G0 is when the cell stops growing but can still function. Cancer arises from when the G1-S phase checks fail to spot damage in DNA, or when the cell doesn't respond to apoptotic signals, resulting in the cell not dying as intended and continuing to replicate and carrying its DNA error with it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Not exactly. G0 is when the cell stops growing but can still function. Cancer arises from when the G1-S phase checks fail to spot damage in DNA, or when the cell doesn't respond to apoptotic signals, resulting in the cell not dying as intended and continuing to replicate and carrying its DNA error with it.

Oh you're right. Sorry my error. If I recall correctly cancer cells also spend a longer time growing? Or am I mistaken?

 

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