Cardcar D

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Cannot be Special Summoned. During your Main Phase 1, if this card was Normal Summoned this turn: You can Tribute this card; draw 2 cards, then it becomes the End Phase of this turn. You cannot Special Summon during the turn you activate this effect.

 

 

Ok, so there's probably not much to discuss here. It's used in only 2 decks as far as I know - PSY-Frame and Burgesstoma. However, something has been troubling me.

If you have this card and some backrow in your hand, do you:

• Normal Summon this card, then set the backrow, then use the effect,

OR

• First set the backrow, then Normal Summon this, then use the effect?

I know it's a minor issue, but surely there must be small advantages to doing one over the other, right?

Please help me with this conundrum as well as discussing this card in any other constructive way you can think to do.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I remember back in the day, Hieratic (Chaos) had the PoD Car engine. Cards way to slow now days sadly for any agressive deck, I'd argue that even Psy have better plays with the new support

[Toffee.]

Honestly, I've found This card to be rather awkward in Burgesstomas. Don't get me wrong, I know how good This card is in the Deck, and how it's a Level 2 to contribute to the Xyzs, but.... Kuribandit is honestly better.

[Snatch Steal]

It's really really slow. It pretty much just allows your opponent to mow you over with their plays.

 

You'd need to be playing a ton of floodgates in order to use it all too well, and even then the opponent can just snipe out whatever ones they don't like.

[Progenitor]

Honestly, I've found This card to be rather awkward in Burgesstomas. Don't get me wrong, I know how good This card is in the Deck, and how it's a Level 2 to contribute to the Xyzs, but.... Kuribandit is honestly better.

To be honest, I don't believe so. Kuribandit is fantastic early game when you are trying to load your grave, but after that you can mill Brugs you instead want to draw, and run out of traps if you aren't careful. Cardcar is weaker turn 1, but after which remains consistently good while Kuri gets proportionally weaker, until eventually Cardcar becomes the better option.

 

Plus with Card of Demise and Accumulated Fortune and Pik, you really don't need MORE speed, so long as you can open and stall for a turn.

[Blsisold]

i play this in pure (ish) artifacts. It helps a lot with consistency and its a good first turn normal summon.

 

to answer your question...Cardcar is mostly used in pysframe nowadays so since they would think oh he will have a monster on board (you can always tribute for cost though) i will effect veiler it. But if you are playing a backrow heavy deck such as artifacts or burgesstoma if you set them all first they might choose not to. 

 

that was all bad logic but it is just what i think. 

[Toffee.]

To be honest, I don't believe so. Kuribandit is fantastic early game when you are trying to load your grave, but after that you can mill Brugs you instead want to draw, and run out of traps if you aren't careful. Cardcar is weaker turn 1, but after which remains consistently good while Kuri gets proportionally weaker, until eventually Cardcar becomes the better option.

Plus with Card of Demise and Accumulated Fortune and Pik, you really don't need MORE speed, so long as you can open and stall for a turn.

Then be a pro like me, and play 50-60 card Burgesstomas. Let's you get away with so much more and really shows off more of the Deck's potential.

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Then be a pro like me, and play 50-60 card Burgesstomas. Let's you get away with so much more and really shows off more of the Deck's potential.

But then you lose consistency which is already a massive problem for Burgs.

 

 

i play this in pure (ish) artifacts. It helps a lot with consistency and its a good first turn normal summon.

 

to answer your question...Cardcar is mostly used in pysframe nowadays so since they would think oh he will have a monster on board (you can always tribute for cost though) i will effect veiler it. But if you are playing a backrow heavy deck such as artifacts or burgesstoma if you set them all first they might choose not to. 

 

that was all bad logic but it is just what i think. 

Interesting..

 

So, in Burgs, if I want to bait Veiler (basically if I think I can protect Car for a turn to use as R2NK material), then Normal Summon it first. But if I don't care about Veiler and don't want my Car to get interrupted (most of the time on the first turn because Burgesstoma Xyz are unaffected by monster effects and therefore don't care about Veiler, so there's no point baiting it), then I set my backrow first... thanks!

 

Assuming the same logic applies to Breakthrough Skill (if I'm going second), then I'd rather I get a Burg in Grave before they activate Breakthrough so that I can +++ off their effects.

 

I suppose it would be possible to test how people react to Cardcar D when they have Veiler in hand by doing an experiment. I challenge people to casual duels using decks that I know use Veiler, and then stack their deck when they aren't looking (and mine so I get Car). It'd be difficult to pull off on a large scale, but worth it for the sake of science.