Arctic55 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/science/new-cancer-treatment-can-kill-8341452 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1385404/light-can-kill-cancer-in-just-two-hours/ No joke! No Scam! Just check out the news articles for yourselves! Hot off the press, within less than 24 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 This sounds like a great development, but nothing has been said of its clinical trials. It may be effective on lab mice, but let's not forget the potentials for side effects that are yet to be explored or mentioned. Don't expect this to be publicly available any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardgameking Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 *Pumps fist*That is a damn good thing to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 It is the daily mirror...just take it with a grain of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I'm not convinced that we're at that stage (referring to the title) yet. Sure it's a great development but there's still more tests that I believe they need to do first. It is the daily mirror...just take it with a grain of saltIt's also in The Sun, another tabloid so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 It really does beg the question, how the hell did no one think of this before? It's not exactly rocket science and we already knew most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Maybe someone had the idea for a while, but it takes a long time to figure out the method to do so, conduct the initial experiments, and get the initial results published. Anyway, I can confirm that the results of these investigations has been published. Abstract here for those interested. The procedure has only been tested on triple-negative breast cancer. It may not necessarily work on other types of cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 This is just another set up where it hasnt reached clinical trials, from a click bait site. Nothing was cured and there has been given no success as of recent. Also, anyone had sources from the scientidt at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I only can easily reach abstracts. http://meeting.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/34/15_suppl/e12574 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 While the news is certainly uplifting, nothing's certain yet. Wait for some sort of official announcement. We would need human trials, and we would need those trials to be extremely conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. waifu Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Cancer has already been cured before, but a treatment is way to good. We need to hear more about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Saying this is a way to kill cancer as a whole feels quite misleading with how different one cancer type is to the other. While it is still a good development, i am on the opinion that this Isn't as groundbreaking as the articles suggests. Questionable source and article tone also contributes to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 This is far from anything new. There is an even more precise method being developed that uses cancer seeking nanomachines to inject nanoscopic traces of Gold into the cancer cells, then use Radio waves to, in a nutshell, cook the cancer cells alive without any damage to the body. This isn't a cure for cancer. There will never be a cure for cancer. All we can do is continually make better and more reliable treatment options. It's a huge step forward that this is nearly commercially available, but it's far from a cure. Cancer is a condition born through chance. Will you cell have a mutation, and if so, will that mutation cause the cell to become cancerous? It's not a disease, per say. It's moreso a condition that creates a disease. Therefore you cannot cure it, but you can surpress and destroy it when it occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. waifu Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Cancer can be cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 How?A cure is an end all be all method of treatment that completely eliminates any and all risk due to the disease itself or more dangerous treatment options. I'm fairly certain we don't have that for cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. waifu Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I am not saying that there is a cure, I am saying it can be cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 How though? I've explained why it can't, but you haven't provided any reasoning as to why it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 There's a number of different types of cancer. Some of which actually can be cured. Like most skin cancers. And if caught in early stages, things like breast cancer, pancreatic cancer, and prostate cancer can be stopped and cured immediately. As of today we don't have any definite answer to stop the division of cells which can lead to cancer. But it's both true and false to say we can or can't cure cancer. We've managed to cure types of cancer. We haven't managed to cure cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. waifu Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 ^what he said, and 1 other reason, but you will criticize me^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Well, I already accepted that part of it. I guess my definition of cure is that of the impossible "general" cure, and I consider everything else to simply be various treatment options rather than actual "cures." Also if you don't provide your reasoning then how can I even begin to accept your logic? It's not like I'm gonna shame you for saying something outlandish; I'd simply acknowledge it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 You're right. I totally would. I'm a total scumbage who disrespects the oppinions of other people. Im glad you know me better than I do to realize my error. Complete sarcasm there btw. I'm not gonna force you to share what you don't want to, however I generally don't care what people believe, so long as it is not factually incorrect. At which point I simply provide evidence to show why it is wrong, if possible. That's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. waifu Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 http://www.followingthetruth.com/can-god-cure-cancer-give-him-a-chance/http://m.christianpost.com/news/i-believed-god-would-heal-me-and-he-did-says-man-cured-of-inoperable-cancer-video-103568/?m=1http://cafelogos.org/cure.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hey man, I'm not one to argue fact vs faith. Stranger things have happened through zealous and disciplined prayer. Personally, I think such confidence is in fact producing a pseudo-placebo effect, where there is such affirmity in that believe that your body does everything in it's power to adapt to that reality. Combined with an effective drug and miracles like that can happen due to the body working overtime. One's own personal outlook on life has shown on several occasions to actually influence their physical condition, though you usually hear about this in a negative connotation. However, that means that the positive side must also exist, and it's why I believe religions activities can be extremely beneficial to one's mental AND physical wellbeing, regardless of whether or not it really was divine intervention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dad Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 We're still talking about the Sun. I've seen some light treatments do wonders for types of skin cancer, (UV treatments are actually common among light treatments for skin cancers) but full on tumors? That's something I'd need to see verified by a more reliable source. Keep digging. I will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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