玄魔の王 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 This obviously isn't a bad card, but it doesn't synergize with Jiaotu much at all. Speedroid seems like a good engine for the deck now, at least.I think that's the intent. It's not meant to be made off Jiaotu, it's meant to be made some other way and then let you dig for Jiaotu. How? Summon Gofu and then proceed to Synchro Summon this? EDIT: Wait. Forget what I said.Mill Ryu Okami. Revive Ryu Okami. Daaku Shinkuro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Ignore the bad double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 wait sheet there isn't a level 7 maindeck YZ.Still the fact that this searches path is ridiculousThere is a lv7 wyrm you can use thoughYazi is the only good 7 for the deck, other than Black Rose. Trap immunity isn't what it once was.Baxia is better made from 3 pieces.Chaofeng can't be anything but EARTH + LIGHT with this. Similar to Baxia, generally better made by its pieces.This obviously isn't a bad card, but it doesn't synergize with Jiaotu much at all.Speedroid seems like a good engine for the deck now, at least.How about sending a lv4 to make this 4+lv5 YZ that won't allow control change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 So it searches Yang cards if it's Synchro'd/played through cards like Call/etc; Nice.It can mill Wyrm-Types to become whatever Level/is a Synchro Tuner; Also nice."If this card leaves the field; search a Yang monster"/using it as Synchro Material also triggers this; Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Jiatou summon Taotie and Bian, tune for Denlong. Send Suanni. 4+5=9 funk Kozmo with a rusty spoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Jiatou summon Taotie and Bian, tune for Denlong. Send Suanni. 4+5=9 f*** Kozmo with a rusty spoonOne with 0 ATK and one with 0 DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 well branches is even more searchable now i guess. there's no real combos available to it outside of yang zing laddering sadly, because yang zing is the only solid wyrm archtype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 One with 0 ATK and one with 0 DEF.One with 0 ATK and one with 0 DEF.Aww bugger, so not quite a one card combo. Still making a chaos locked cheofeng is a lot easier than it was before. It's a matter of just popping the a YZ after resolving Jat. A two card combo isn't awfulwell branches is even more searchable now i guess. there's no real combos available to it outside of yang zing laddering sadly, because yang zing is the only solid wyrm archtype.Metalphosis YangZing /can/ run Ariadne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Oh neat, it's Bishbalkin.card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Path and Creation are the best 2 cards in the deck and a card that searches those so easily sounds like it'll be really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 This card is obviously too good, but I think it needs to find a good niche in Yang Zings before we can praise it entirely. With a Jiaotu 1rst turn play you could: >Summon Bian + Bixi>Synch Bian(3) + Jiaotu(2) into Denglong> Activate effect, add the counter trap, Path, or Pendulum Scale>Denglong eff sends Zefraniu, make it Level 6>Synch Denglong (6) + Bixi (2) into Baxia>Denglong eff adds a monster or the other respective Scale So pretty much you kind of made up for the -2 for Jiaotu this way. If it was anything else outside of it: >Instead of summoning Bixi, summon Pulao and Synchro (6+1) into Yazi >Jiaotu summons Zefraniu instead of Bixi>Synch Jiaotu(2) + Bian(3) into Denglong>Denglong eff sends Suanni>Synchro Denglong(4) + Zefaniu (6) into Chaofeng, lock LIGHT and EARTH If you use the standard Jiaotu summoning and apply it to Denglong: >Jiaotu summons Zefraniu + Chiwen>Synch Zefraniu (6) + Jiaotu(2) into Baxia>Baxia eff pops Chiwen, summon Jiaotu>Chiwen eff, summons Bian>Synch Jiaotu(2) + Bian(3) into Denglong>Denglong eff searches pendulum scale, Path, counter trap, etc >If you have another Pendulum scale in hand:>Denglong searches the other respective scale>Pendulum Summon Zefraniu, search Path, counter trap, etc>Denglong eff sends Bixi>Synch Denglong (2) + Zefraniu (6) into Baxia>Denglong eff adds Path, counter trap, etc If you search Path, return Jiaotu + discarded Yang Zing(s)/Denglong and draw 2. If you make this a first turn play, you go 5 -> 3 -> 4 -> 5-> 3 -> 4 -> 5, and then activate Path, so you pretty much plus a lot (Not sure if I did math right but you can try to follow). If else, you can end up with adding at least 2 Creations or Counter Traps. And this isn't including too much of the Metalfoe stuff yet. In short, this card is an awesome intermediate that gives you enough + to last the round. Would try to go into it if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Oh hey, second example is relevant. Jiaotu into Niu and Chiwen, go into Baxia, revive Jiaotu and find bian 2+3 = this, pitch Bixi from deck, make Stardust Warrior. Granted.. You don't want to remove all YZ from your board anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Updated with effect from the wiki. NOTE: The last effect is, most likely, going to SPECIAL SUMMON a YZ from the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Updated with effect from the wiki. NOTE: The last effect is, most likely, going to SPECIAL SUMMON a YZ from the deck.Hmm a really basic 2 card hand can now make a Chaos Locked Feng if that holds true. And you might have fodder left for the counter trap to not consume feng. YZ might finally get their meta debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 WELL THE THING I SAID IS VALID AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 WELL THE THING I SAID IS VALID AGAINWell yes, if you open a live Jiaotu+ 1 Metalphosis/Fire King Island The challenge now is to also make a Light/Dark/Wind one to deal with Metalphosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Well yes, if you open a live Jiaotu+ 1 Metalphosis/Fire King Island The challenge now is to also make a Light/Dark/Wind one to deal with MetalphosisLiterally just a live jiaotu. Jiaotu summon chiwen and suanni, synch chiwen and Suanni for this funk, search path, ditch metaphys armed dragon, this+jiaotu=chaofeng that stops light and dark, search some YZ monster, path to put this, jiaotu, and suanni back to draw 2 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Before the update, didn't the first effect only activate upon Synchro Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally just a live jiaotu. Jiaotu summon chiwen and suanni, synch chiwen and Suanni for this funk, search path, ditch metaphys armed dragon, this+jiaotu=chaofeng that stops light and dark, search some YZ monster, path to put this, jiaotu, and suanni back to draw 2 cards.jiaotu is a tuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally just a live jiaotu. Jiaotu summon chiwen and suanni, synch chiwen and Suanni for this funk, search path, ditch metaphys armed dragon, this+jiaotu=chaofeng that stops light and dark, search some YZ monster, path to put this, jiaotu, and suanni back to draw 2 cards.Both this and Jiaotu are tuners :/ Nope, still need a live Jiaotu and a metalphosis...it's just your counter trap is more live nowjiaotu is a tunerI hate you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 in my defense, I haven't played the deck since December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 in my defense, I haven't played the deck since December.So how would the build look like with the Counter Trap Card and this added in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 So how would the build look like with the Counter Trap Card and this added in?Probably the same, just ditch some of the floodgates for 2 of the counter trap and increase monster count to make jiaotu a more sure shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 in my defense, I haven't played the deck since December. So how would the build look like with the Counter Trap Card and this added in? Why are you asking the guy who hasn't played the deck. If anyone it should be Black you're asking. Anyway, some mix of metalphosis and YZ to get the most out of Ariadne as well That being said, I just realized Ancient Fairy Dragon can be used to get FireKing Island off rando consistency cards like Chicken Game (or your opponents Union Hanger/Ravine) so maybe you wouldn't even need Metals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Why are you asking the guy who hasn't played the deck. If anyone it should be Black you're asking.I'm asking on his build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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