Changing the Mod Team

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Think it's time we actually say something about the matter, but Black had been discussed for a return to CC modship amongst ourselves, and we're fine letting him come back after observing his behavior. We haven't promoted him yet, as we're still looking into candidates for other sections that require more help and promote them altogether. But yes, he is on the road to promotion; this much is certain. 

 

I will admit that in the past, I have had problems with how Black reacted on here, but he has become a better member during that time. I do look forward to working with him in the foreseeable future. 

 

To be clear, we have looked over the options that you all have presented; in terms of General/Debates, Aerion was the candidate that stood out the most. But if you don't feel you'd be a good fit, then whom would you suggest instead? 

 

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It should also be mentioned that Smear has been recommended for Anime/Manga to give the section an active moderator. If you all have any comments/concerns about him, or have other viable choices who could take the helm there, please speak up. 

[Dad]

So since my name has been thrown around a couple of times (I doubt in much seriousness among the actual discussion happening among the mod team) I figured I should say a little on my thoughts:

 

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Did I know someone would nominate when I raise concerns about general?

Yeah, it was kinda obvious. There's maybe 3 super obvious people who post in general, so odds were that I'd be mentioned. But I mentioned what I did because I think that the section needs something like it to really prosper, and because I want to see the section thrive as it's my main section of activity. Speaking of which

 

Issues with my name in the hat:

Some people have raised issues with my potential objectivity - That's kinda the smallest concern. Because I don't really let personal opinion dictate me in arguments that much. I'll throw comments about what I personally feel at the end of a topic (I.E. guns are stupid, or Hilary is a b****) but I don't let cloud me that much, and I'd be more than willingly to work on it if people think it's that much of an issue. I'm an opinionated person but I enjoy discussion for the sake of discussion to much to let it get really personal, even if my conveyed tone suggests otherwise. But it really is the biggest concern compared to:

 

Activity

I really don't post much outside of general. And I'm not really concerned to, because like everyone here I have s*** outside of this place that takes priority, and whilst I could push myself to be more active here, I'm not going to let it become a bigger priority than the other stuff. I never have, and I never will. Which is probably an issue considering the whole point of this is a lack of perceived activity. 

 

Relation to the community:

I know like 3 people here decently well, and 5 over the whole time I've been on the site? Winter, Black and Koko. As well as Chris if he still posted, and Matt if he hadn't gone insane. I've never really interacted with anyone else that much beyond probably mocking them a little on Discord (Speaking of which the mandatory Discord usage is probably a thing I couldn't/wouldn't do), so I wouldn't function as a bridge. And I would probably would come off as a little aloof dick, because I just do that unintentionally as a person. You could argue that being a mod is my chance to open up to and with the community, but I've been here 4 years essentially and I've arguably made myself more distant? So you can take that as you will. 

 

 

 

Essentially, even if I would be the logical person to help general (Not saying I am, but if that's what people thought) in terms of who I actually am as I person I doubt I would be the choice for a mod right now. Because we want someone stable, open and engaged with the community, and I wouldn't define myself as any of those things. 

 

I will say that if there is no-one else deemed fit to do the job, I would try and I would try to adapt to minimise these flaws as much as I can for the sake of the job, I just can't promise anything because they are issues I've been dealing with for a long time now. I'm not ruling myself out entirely. I would just say there is probably someone better suited for the job. Probably not Winter unless you have him on a leash for the first 6 months, but there is bound to be someone better suited. 

 

Also why the f*** isn't Black the CC mod yet? He's the only real candidate worth considering. No offence to anyone else, but that guy has done so much for the site continually in the time I have known him, and he has the temperament for it nowadays. 

 

Honestly I feel you would fit well with the community.  But again, that's not something we could force on you.  It would also be a chance for you to--as you stated--further delve into YCM as a whole.  Explore the rest of the communities.  But I'm curious as to who else you have in mind for he General section.

 

Think it's time we actually say something about the matter, but Black had been discussed for a return to CC modship amongst ourselves, and we're fine letting him come back after observing his behavior. We haven't promoted him yet, as we're still looking into candidates for other sections that require more help and promote them altogether. But yes, he is on the road to promotion; this much is certain. 

 

I will admit that in the past, I have had problems with how Black reacted on here, but he has become a better member during that time. I do look forward to working with him in the foreseeable future. 

 

To be clear, we have looked over the options that you all have presented; in terms of General/Debates, Aerion was the candidate that stood out the most. But if you don't feel you'd be a good fit, then whom would you suggest instead? 

 

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It should also be mentioned that Smear has been recommended for Anime/Manga to give the section an active moderator. If you all have any comments/concerns about him, or have other viable choices who could take the helm there, please speak up. 

 

I think Smear would be fine in Anime/Manga.  It's something he's semi-expressed and he spends a good deal of time there.  Not to mention he sort of meshes well with the Anime/Manga homebodies that already visit the section frequently.

 

And, while there are a number of plain and more fitting choices I will (albeit questionably) state that I would be willing to learn and blend better with the General community since I was at least brought up.  Mind you, this would be if you didn't have any other candidates who actually wanted the position.  I'd also like to refer back to possibly moving some of your mods around if you feel you have too many, or if you feel like you can't successfully nominate anyone else (including myself).

 

At least then you can keep someone you've worked with before without giving up/risking too much.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Tbh the connection between smear and anime/manga never occurred to me, but the guy is definitely mod material, and the section seems like a great fit for him. Full support.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Tbh the connection between smear and anime/manga never occurred to me, but the guy is definitely mod material, and the section seems like a great fit for him. Full support.

This was my exact thought process honestly. But yeah I'm willing to support him..

 

IF HE'D GET TO WORK ON MY REQUEST ALREADY THAT BASTARD

*coughs*

 

I'm so so so so happy to see that things are actually...happening. ^^;

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Well, Brightflame and Dae raise good points. I don't have a filter (though I am genuinly trying to be less of a jabroni). Being a little agressive does have its uses in general. But having and agressive judge in general might give people an opinion the tables are stacked against them. Like vla1ne and Tom noted, I too really care about the section and want to see it thrive. Which it might not if people are afraid of me.

 

As Brightflame mentioned, I'd need a leash. Something which wouldn't work well with me, or for the section.

 

This is also going to be the toughest year for me in a while. I have to take the MCAT next May, I'll have to work 2 jobs as well as take a full course load and if anything my relationship with my family has soured as of recent. So my activity will likely tank.

 

As for the community. I might be "freinds" with people, but the only person I've known on this site for many years would be Brightflame. Someone earlier mentioned that Rai would be a good mod. I agree. I think he's a little distant to the section and maybe shoe horned in, but with his dealing of the crisis situation between Laz and me, I'm confident he could continue to do well.

 

This is a long was of saying. I don't want, nor think I'd be fit for this position. Likely, I wasn't being considered, but might as well say it now that the other two general regulars have also made their stance clear

 

 

That being said, I've been thinking about Dad and my support for him. He honestly seems a lot like Rai. Just a nice dude to hang out with outside of YCM. Can be playful and serious when needed. Knowledgable about the subject matter. And as crab noted, his recusal from the Jesuits speaks volumes. This is a guy who wants to be fair and will judge freind and not alike.

 

My only worry was, it seemed like he wanted out of the storm, but if he's willing to get back in. Godspeed mate.

 

As a final note, I'd like to thank everyone in this thread. It's been strangely mature and I'm kinda happy to know I'm not as hated as I thought I was

[Halubaris Maphotika]

As a final note, I'd like to thank everyone in this thread. It's been strangely mature and I'm kinda happy to know I'm not as hated as I thought I was

You never were

[Simping For Hina]

Might I suggest myself as Mod of the Other TCG Sections? Flame Dragon does his job watching over the forum, but I want to bring life to it. There is a chat on skype from members of the forum. Rinne does a great job trying to keep his Club alive with activities. The one thing that this forum does lack, that it used to have, is drive, through the competitive shell and trying to make your own skill better than just playing the game. Play the game well. Learn about the reasons why things work. Different deck structures, archetypes, strategies, the use of resources. Bringing conversation to the forum, other than just having "spoilers" and "decks" posted.

 

The problem with running a blog, was that it was only having the voice of one person and everyone taking from that single voice. If you bring conversations that people can chime on in other than just cards, it actually brings more thought into what a game can mention. This would mostly be MtG related, as it is the second biggest game played on this site. But I have played Hearthstone, CF!V, and Hex. I have experience in other games, that I would be a part of the conversation. I also have knowledge about other type of card games such as Boss Monster, Munchkins, etc.

 

One thing that made CGC active back when it was, was the way it helped the community to gallivant their ideas into more than just building a deck. It was a community that would try to help each other, by understanding what each person was doing and helping them to achieve their goal. We had deck building competitions, we has discussions about different type of decks, we had people who were motivated to do more than just play a game. They wanted to learn how there was more than just the building of the deck.

Now, I don't think that I am mod material, but I am probably the best suited for being the moderator of Other TCG. The forum is only hyped up when spoilers come around and the conversations that the group on skype has is bland, unresponsive, and does nothing to help each other except with single suggestions. I want to give reasons for people to try and push themselves to learn more, and set it up where the community works with each other to more than just make a deck better or look at a card being good. I want for people to see the ability to get better, by learning what strategies there are, why things work, what could help make things better.

I want to build up the MtG Community here on the forum, that much is about it. I want to build up more of a standard from the members that play MtG here, even if it is just for fun.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

People might be resistant to the idea of a Dae modship cause, lol, the new rules were made to target him and me. But at this point we can't be "picky"

 

We need activity, and w/e can give us that activity should be implimented. Dae is very active MTG side. And even people that don't like him agree he's really well versed in the section. Granted this ideal I'm pushing goes against Night's idea of mods not being sectional. But here's the flaw I see in that. YCM encompasses a VAST range of directions to go in. It's not fair to expect any one person to be versed in them all. Stratifying based on stenghts reminds me a lot of a conveyer belt. Each person hones their skill instead of learning everything.

 

History showed us which works better

 

 

Just my 2 shillings on the matter

[The Warden]

Well, if people are asking for spots can I have the Creative Writing section?

[DL]

Interesting...I never thought things had gotten like this, tho I haven't been around for long, recently.....

 

In the end, reading some of this thread, is has def been productive tho! So good on ya, YCM.

 

 

I've no issues with any mod I know btw, since I don't think I ever got familiar with the 'bad ones' xP

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

No mod team. Let people do whatever the f*** they want. Let this site kill itself.

 

Is now campaigning for modship

 

okay

 

why not

[Simping For Hina]

Is now campaigning for modship

 

okay

 

why not

Are you trying to bring out my ultimate plan? To use the TCG section for ultimate downfall of this site? Because I will resurrect an army to follow my every word, instead of trying to make the community of MtG better.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

You can do that without warns, bans, and locks. That's what makes this idea of people "becoming a mod to help the community" so unsettling to me (especially when they're as zealously idealistic as Black), the only difference between you as a mod and you as a regular member would be an arsenal of largely negative powers. I'd feel uncomfortable using any of those powers in any context (barring cyberattacks/porn raids designed to intentionally hurt the site) just as I'd feel uncomfortable using the report button which is why I don't.

[Simping For Hina]

You can do that without warns, bans, and locks. That's what makes this idea of people "becoming a mod to help the community" so unsettling to me (especially when they're as zealously idealistic as Black), the only difference between you as a mod and you as a regular member would be an arsenal of largely negative powers. I'd feel uncomfortable using any of those powers in any context (barring cyberattacks/porn raids designed to intentionally hurt the site) just as I'd feel uncomfortable using the report button which is why I don't.

It would also be establishing rules for the community as well. You can help promote things, but the reason why CC has set a standard was because of how inappropriate comments from Ragnarok and the like were. There is also the title that it gives you, for newer members to be presented with joining in on conversations. Being mod isn't just banning, etc. It is setting up the foundation for growth and structure to be present, a new start that would lift the forum up and set a standard that would most likely encourage or discourage people.

 

This forum doesn't need damage control, it need structure and it lacks as much as that. The people more attritubuted to this are those that have the knowledge to help bring structure to the forum. That is why a change in mod roles would be good, simply because everything that is being changed is to promote the idealistic fundamentals of keeping things in check. But the people that are looking to be mods are the people who are noteworthy in their strengths that could set up precedents for discussions and be involved in them, including others, and also running the show so that things can flow smoothly.

 

Most mods on this forum don't do that, and it isn't enticing to do exactly that because the image that is displayed from the mods is Damage Control. That is what every mod has been about. I am going to use Striker here as an example for the 1v1 tournaments. He was set up as mod to run that, and it is all he was running, but he was setting up the base for what the Leaderboard should be. If the subforum was directly that of the Leaderboard, he would probably be the only person suited for the job. I actually don't know too much about that scenario, since it seems like an ego-stroke, but it was the best example I could pull out of my ass when I am at work and nothing is happening.

 

So, if I were mod, I would change the rules and start from there, but I would be an example for what should come from the rules change and promote more of what I am trying to get across from the section I run. Then I would do damage control, organize the forum to where it would be a healthy standard for old and new members alike to get involved, I would encourage conversations. That is something that could be from a regular member, but it is better to come from a Mod as it is a title and a perk that isn't self-given.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

I've said it numerous times here, ragnarok1945 should never have been banned. He should never have been temp banned, he *certainly* should never have been permabanned, and the forum as a whole suffered for it when he was. He was well-liked here (he always did well in the YMB's) especially amongst those closest to him like SaTuRnPaLaDiN, he was just more hated than he was liked, and for petty reasons (posting too much). Much of the current member base won't remember ragnarok1945 because he was banned years ago, and so they only have hearsay to go by about how he was a flooder or how he was a problem. His contributions to CC were better than most, he didn't post one-line comments, he posted formulaic critiques addressing multiple aspects of a card, where it was lacking and what it did well that any card creator could simply brush aside if they disagreed. He put thought into them, and because he was so prolific he helped more people than any other person there. He was banned largely due to pressure from the largest lynch mob in YCM's history (Drift) led by Clair/Larxene who especially hated ragnarok because he was IIRC the only person who had a higher post count than her at the time (Phantom Roxas was also a member, and his being promoted sealed ragnarok1945's fate). What started as a popular KH-fanclub in Organization XIII became the nasty clique that it was once it had branched off to its own separate forums (Drifting Evanescence, Drift for short) for essentially the sole purpose of flaming non-Org XIII/Drift YCMers behind their backs. A thread on ragnarok1945 wherein he'd be referred to almost exclusively as "ragnafag" was the most popular, and then they'd make poe-faced petitions to the mod team about how he should be banned for flooding. That this bit of dark history could repeat itself is something we should all be vigilant about nipping in the bud.

 

I also want to stress that a given person being a knowledgeable authority in a given section *does not* imply that they'd moderate that section well. Crab Helmet was far and away the best TCG mind of his time - and a tyrannical moderator who made TCG a caustic and unpleasant atmosphere where newer members like Jack Witt and Elemental Hero Andrew were not welcomed, encouraged, and given constructive criticism but made an example of, savaged, and ridiculed for being "stupid". Crab would make extensive rules threads with clauses named after members he found stupid. And of course there was the debacle of Crab banning prominent members (J-Max, Rod, etc) out of nowhere for ecchi and the like, but that gesture which had a larger fallout because it had wider-ranging implications than just TCG was how he governed TCG on a day-to-day basis. One of Crab's rules that stood out for me was ""Your deck is stupid" is fair game so long as you're not attacking a member directly, ie "You are stupid", but "Your deck is stupid" and "this topic is stupid" seldom accomplished a great deal. At the end of the day, when Crab made a mistake, he was not bailed out, he received only poetic justice. My current name, Crab Hamlet, is not entirely ironic, as I did respect him, but it's not a terribly sincere homage either.

 

Skimming through through Other TCG's tells me a few things:

 

-Mods are among its most active contributors (Flame Dragon and .Rai). I assume they have jurisdiction there. If not then extending it to them would be a good idea as they're good mods to begin with, and any inquiries about how the section's set up/moderated could be brought to them. Interestingly, Miror B. and rinne are also quite active there, former mods whose reason for demotion I'm unsure of but they seemed pretty good when they were mods to the point where reactivating them wouldn't be a bad idea. 

-On the whole, it's not that active with just a few topics per day and replies to those topics typically being in the single digits. This shouldn't be surprising considering yugiohcardmaker.net, but I digress and acknowledge that this shouldn't mean it can't have active discussions on other TCG's.

-The vast majority of its threads have to do with Magic the Gathering, with Hearthstone and Cardfight Vanguard lagging behind but making up the bulk of the other threads. It does seem strange that there aren't subforums for each of those games and that every thread needs a tag, but that could be a suggestion on its own and because it's so obvious I reckon it's probably already been posed and shot down for reasons of space or what have you.  

 

Regardless, I think this thread is at best an extreme knee-jerk reaction to the rule updates (which could admittedly use some clarification as to whether they have an actual legal basis or are just born of enough being enough) - and anyone campaigning for self-promotion here does so in a spirit of sleazy opportunism. Had your bid for modship been timed differently I might have seen it in a different light.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Regardless, I think this thread is at best an extreme knee-jerk reaction to the rule updates (which could admittedly use some clarification as to whether they have an actual legal basis or are just born of enough being enough) - and anyone campaigning for self-promotion here does so in a spirit of sleazy opportunism. Had your bid for modship been timed differently I might have seen it in a different light.

Gonna disagree with you here. It's really hard to break the YCM Status Quo on a normal day, but a normal member. If anything attempting change in a time of change makes perfect sense. Call it sleezy, but it's more just realistic and good planning.

 

It's not "self" promotion, cause most of use don't want the job, and those that do only want it to help shape this community into a former glory. Being a mod sucks mate. And most people have more of a life than getting off to using the ban-hammer on innocents.

 

Had his bid for modship been at another time, you might have seen it in a different light, but most people wouldn't have. Some super could just waltz in and say. Why? YCM looks fine. Something they cannot now

[Simping For Hina]

I've said it numerous times here, ragnarok1945 should never have been banned. He should never have been temp banned, he *certainly* should never have been permabanned, and the forum as a whole suffered for it when he was. He was well-liked here (he always did well in the YMB's) especially amongst those closest to him like SaTuRnPaLaDiN, he was just more hated than he was liked, and for petty reasons (posting too much). Much of the current member base won't remember ragnarok1945 because he was banned years ago, and so they only have hearsay to go by about how he was a flooder or how he was a problem. His contributions to CC were better than most, he didn't post one-line comments, he posted formulaic critiques addressing multiple aspects of a card, where it was lacking and what it did well that any card creator could simply brush aside if they disagreed. He put thought into them, and because he was so prolific he helped more people than any other person there. He was banned largely due to pressure from the largest lynch mob in YCM's history (Drift) led by Clair/Larxene who especially hated ragnarok because he was IIRC the only person who had a higher post count than her at the time (Phantom Roxas was also a member, and his being promoted sealed ragnarok1945's fate). What started as a popular KH-fanclub in Organization XIII became the nasty clique that it was once it had branched off to its own separate forums (Drifting Evanescence, Drift for short) for essentially the sole purpose of flaming non-Org XIII/Drift YCMers behind their backs. A thread on ragnarok1945 wherein he'd be referred to almost exclusively as "ragnafag" was the most popular, and then they'd make poe-faced petitions to the mod team about how he should be banned for flooding. That this bit of dark history could repeat itself is something we should all be vigilant about nipping in the bud.

 

I also want to stress that a given person being a knowledgeable authority in a given section *does not* imply that they'd moderate that section well. Crab Helmet was far and away the best TCG mind of his time - and a tyrannical moderator who made TCG a caustic and unpleasant atmosphere where newer members like Jack Witt and Elemental Hero Andrew were not welcomed, encouraged, and given constructive criticism but made an example of, savaged, and ridiculed for being "stupid". Crab would make extensive rules threads with clauses named after members he found stupid. And of course there was the debacle of Crab banning prominent members (J-Max, Rod, etc) out of nowhere for ecchi and the like, but that gesture which had a larger fallout because it had wider-ranging implications than just TCG was how he governed TCG on a day-to-day basis. One of Crab's rules that stood out for me was ""Your deck is stupid" is fair game so long as you're not attacking a member directly, ie "You are stupid", but "Your deck is stupid" and "this topic is stupid" seldom accomplished a great deal. At the end of the day, when Crab made a mistake, he was not bailed out, he received only poetic justice. My current name, Crab Hamlet, is not entirely ironic, as I did respect him, but it's not a terribly sincere homage either.

 

Skimming through through Other TCG's tells me a few things:

 

-Mods are among its most active contributors (Flame Dragon and .Rai). I assume they have jurisdiction there. If not then extending it to them would be a good idea as they're good mods to begin with, and any inquiries about how the section's set up/moderated could be brought to them. Interestingly, Miror B. and rinne are also quite active there, former mods whose reason for demotion I'm unsure of but they seemed pretty good when they were mods to the point where reactivating them wouldn't be a bad idea. 

-On the whole, it's not that active with just a few topics per day and replies to those topics typically being in the single digits. This shouldn't be surprising considering yugiohcardmaker.net, but I digress and acknowledge that this shouldn't mean it can't have active discussions on other TCG's.

-The vast majority of its threads have to do with Magic the Gathering, with Hearthstone and Cardfight Vanguard lagging behind but making up the bulk of the other threads. It does seem strange that there aren't subforums for each of those games and that every thread needs a tag, but that could be a suggestion on its own and because it's so obvious I reckon it's probably already been posed and shot down for reasons of space or what have you.  

 

Regardless, I think this thread is at best an extreme knee-jerk reaction to the rule updates (which could admittedly use some clarification as to whether they have an actual legal basis or are just born of enough being enough) - and anyone campaigning for self-promotion here does so in a spirit of sleazy opportunism. Had your bid for modship been timed differently I might have seen it in a different light.

Ragnarok being banned is discretion at best. It is something that even matters now, since it isn't going to change. It prompted a change in the rules of CC, and that is what I am getting at.

 

The mod thing. You can't know who is going to be a good mod until it actually occurs. Honestly, power changes people easily and who properly knows what is going to happen. But the best suited to be mods are the ones with knowledge, as they have the ability to put the most impact on a forum. And they have the most authority to have a positive influence on the forum. If they don't do something positive, you remove them from mod and we move on from it. We can always revert the forum back to what it was. It will become a story for the history books, and the consequences would be minimal since the moderators of this forum have the power to change things. Demotion is a thing that exists, as many others have done so.

 

One thing bad mods tell us, though, is that they help make the forum better by providing evidence on how the forum shouldn't be handled. They teach us something that we learn from and make a positive aspect otherwise. You can't know how someone is going to act except looking at their history, and seeing what they do in that position or positions similar to what is wanted.

 

I feel as if you didn't look at anything I mentioned on how I would try and make the forum better. It isn't about authority, it is about an image and an example for people to follow. The authority would consist restructuring the rules and make sure they are followed. The idea of what I want to do as mod is to improve and invest in discussions that help to make the community in Other TCGs better, than just being a contributor like the others. I want to spark conversations instead of just being a part of them. I want to put effort into making people work, learn, and create something that is more than just a deck. Yes, people post and comment, but on spoilers and single cards. There is more to TCGs other than that. Which I have talked about, and what I want to try and accomplish.

 

We can make it more active, if we put in the work and other people want to try and make it more active. Like I said, if I structure the rules in a way that inspires people to think more about different aspects of the game and different aspects on how to improve, the general consensus will improve with likeminded people. This could all just be a ploy for me to rise in rank. And there would be benefits that I could easily gain from being a moderator, but I wouldn't choose to be a moderator for a section that I care about to make it worse. If I do, then that is my fault. But that is not my goal, and I probably have some of the best input and ideas that would work to bring people to a higher standard in other TCGs.

 

It could be brought to them. And they have done things to get the forum active, but they are simply contributors and have different jobs than just looking over a simple forum that hasn't raised in activity under their title. Basic ideas are out there now, too, on what I want to do to the forum.

 

Structure deck conversations about archetypes, tech for those decks, why the work, the balance in resource, what people can learn from them.

What would help to evaluate cards in different formats, the power level that the formats have, and the card pool affecting the formats or cards within the card pool.

Deck competitions like what were done on CGC.

Set up a fundamental ground on what could illustrate as input for helping players get better.

Having resources to help newer members get into the game.

 

Having too many subsections is clunky and disgusting too look at. It doesn't help keep anything clean in the forum, and actually puts more work on the mods to try to clean it out. It is easier to rename a thread than to move it. There is a lot easier method of just including tag lines, like how most reddit forums work.

[Blake]

I... didn't campaign here. I explained that I'm interested in the position, based on some past events, and that I didn't think it was fair to write me off for who I used to be, alone.

 

I'm rather insulted that I'm being roped into that, as even when I was thanking Night/sorta replying to Giga, I still greatly talked about the team/site, as opposed to myself. My name was brought up by others, and when I actually asked to be a mod was back in January, and when that died down, I sent a PM to the moderators and asked.

 

I was unaware that Gadjiltron was going to be promoted in a matter of days, only deciding to make an attempt because of a silly "Bring Black Back" movement, which I didn't even touch, myself. It made me happy that people supported me, so I worked up a personal "application", mostly detailing changes I would like to make to the rules/events and such to help improve the section, Even then, I bowed out upon being told that Gadjiltron was about to receive a CC Moderator position, for the time being.

 

My name, as a potential moderator, was brought up by others here, such as Night. I can't recall if he was first, and I can't be bothered to check atm. (I do know Winter mentioned it elsewhere, but idc if here). I assume it's because I've shown interest in the past in addition to being brought up.

 

And yes, I did applaud cow for growing some balls. But that's because there have been a funk ton of times people asked me to say something on their behalf and then dropped it, because everyone is too scared of rocking the boat to do anything. Knee jerk or not, this is better than sitting back and doing nothing when something doesn't seem right.

 

Criticize me for being idealistic, because you think I have a messiah complex, whatever. However, I kindly ask that you not try unwarranted and baseless ways of criticizing me.

 

Side note: Crab didn't ban J-Max.

 

Frunk banned J-Max after goading him until some form of a threat was made. Frunk proceeded to slam him.

 

Crab tried to smooth things out by banned Rodrigo and Kitty. The former hijacked a Damage Control alt to rant out the forum, thus earning the ban that was otherwise unfair, and Kitty managed to be unbanned later.

 

They were banned for enjoying Lolicon and Shotacon, respectively.

 

Frunk also lost his position for said incident.

 

I have my own fair share of issues with Crab, as well, but I'd like to clear up what was and was not their fault.

[Simping For Hina]

I also only offered myself up to the position. I am not rallying anyone to agree with me, or in my favor. Honestly, I think I would help that particular forum out, with being a moderator being the best position to do so. The mods have their own agenda, and if I don't work with that, then I move on.

This is the best time to bring it up, because it is exactly that of changing the mod team and a whole new update on the team could do poorly or not. And the mods could do testing to figure out who works where. They could also choose exactly when to do it, and for how long.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Even if this was kneejerk reaction (I don't think it was), if the least this achieves if getting the mod team to actively discuss intended rule changes with the community before they are actually done I would count that as a win. Because by my counting, the new rules are the second such instances of fairly large changes being sprung upon sections with little to no warning, and with little to no community input before they came in. 

 

Like the changes to General is the other one - The only talk that I'm aware of happening about it before it happened was Sakura bringing up 'We have plans to deal with the problems in general we are thinking of implimenting so' and then just implementing them. I don't think there was even a discussion thread about it afterwards, we had to use the status bar to raise concerns (Which is something we were meant to be stopping with the rules allegedly). 

 

Then essentially the same sheet is pulled again with the new rules, except with no prior warning. It just happens. I understand that it was technically out of a perceived legal necessity, but it's still poor practice. 

 

If nothing else, this thread can be used to reiterate that the mods could feel like that we are more involved with the decisions that get made for us - Because most of us want to see this place get better, not worse, so open sources of discussion about issues, like this thread are seemingly a good thing. 

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Good to know about who banned who. Way back under Darth Browarod there was a thread detailing the reasons and duration for every ban made, something like that would be good to see again (Browarod in general was a great super mod, even he did perma me on false grounds). As is, there really isn't a way to tell other than word from the source. 

 

Regardless, banning people is typically not the best way of "trying to smooth things out" and banning active members should be avoided at all costs. I'm not of the opinion that Rodrigo earned a ban after the fact by using an alt to make his case. In the end, that's exactly what he did, make his case, and how else would he do it? If you're saying the ban for "enjoying lolicon" was unfair but that a ban for making a double account to explain his side would be, then fairness would be unachievable, or even if he had other means of achieving it, others might not.   

 

As I said I too have been permabanned, for allegedly hacking Frlf's account and using it to spam porn, the confusion was over a hotlinked image that transformed to that as an anti-hotlinking measure.

 

With regards to the rule update situation which I believe this thread stems from directly, the argument posed for the proposed rule updates is that as this is not an +18 site, conversations of a sexual nature could make YCM liable. I'm not sure whether there was a catalyst for this (someone threatening to sue or something of the like), but is there really a case to be made either way that the updates aren't justifiable in the potential event of a lawsuit that could have the entire site shut down?

 

Dae, deck competitions and directing discussions on input, resources and advice are all things you can do as a non-mod and if you want some resource or rule implementation stickied you can PM the mods to do so. Either way, I feel like opening a conversation about rehabilitation is what you're trying to do, and a PM convo involving multiple parties could help greatly in establishing that with or without promotions in the event you don't get one.

 

If neither of you (Black and Dae) are campaigning, then am I correct in saying that your use of this thread as a vehicle for your promotion (whether it's you who initially raised the point or not) ends here?  

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

As far as I know there were some sketchy threads and angry conversations about sexuality, which the mods likely wanted gone to "keep the calm"

[Dad]

Returning a modship of someone like Scott (Browarod) would be very good for mod and member relations. It's transparent. But that requires massive up keep. Not to mention a face that both parties like.

 

As far as rag goes, his ban was a bit far. I'm glad I drifted away from Drift when I did. But I don't recall Pat being apart of ragnarok bashing.

[Blake]

Good to know about who banned who. Way back under Darth Browarod there was a thread detailing the reasons and duration for every ban made, something like that would be good to see again (Browarod in general was a great super mod). As is, there really isn't a way to tell other than word from the source. 

 

Regardless, banning people is typically not the best way of "trying to smooth things out" and banning active members should be avoided at all costs. I'm not of the opinion that Rodrigo earned a ban after the fact by using an alt to make his case. In the end, that's exactly what he did, make his case, and how else would he do it? If you're saying the ban for "enjoying lolicon" was unfair but that a ban for making a double account to explain his side would be, then fairness would be unachievable, or even if he had other means of achieving it, others might not.   

 

If neither of you (Black and Dae) are campaigning, then am I correct in saying that your use of this thread as a vehicle for your promotion (whether it's you who initially raised the point or not) ends here?  

Oh no, it was definitely wrong to do that. As I said, I have issues with Crab.

 

Rod didn't use it to make his case. He used it to make a long, demonizing rant about the mod team/the site. Rod is my friend, not someone I hate, and even he admits he earned it. "Liking Lolicon" was overblown, based on a Lolicon Club that was already a funking horrible idea, but then he genuinely went out of his way to just make things worse, not better. It wasn't an appeal, it was something that was full of anger

 

I haven't used it as such. At all. I accepted what was said of me and what came to me, but I haven't used it as a vehicle by any means. I was sent an application to fill out yesterday morning, 8 AM my time, and I filled it out, and this is the first time I've mentioned it at all.

 

I have not campaigned, and I have not taken advantage of this. What occurs is what occurs.

[Simping For Hina]

Dae, deck competitions and directing discussions on input, resources and advice are all things you can do as a non-mod and if you want some resource or rule implementation stickied you can PM the mods to do so. Either way, I feel like opening a conversation about rehabilitation is what you're trying to do, and a PM convo involving multiple parties could help greatly in establishing that with or without promotions in the event you don't get one.

 

If neither of you (Black and Dae) are campaigning, then am I correct in saying that your use of this thread as a vehicle for your promotion (whether it's you who initially raised the point or not) ends here?  

I can do those without being mod. You're not understanding the point of setting up a foundation for the conversations to follow a structure that helps to develop the conversation, rather than just having the conversations occur. It also follows an idea that I would be put in a better position to be a role model as wel.. I already mentioned that I could do all of this without being mod, but being mod would put my in the best position do promote and increase activity of the forum as well as allow me to overlook the progression of the conversations, without getting involved unless I need to. Power and voice are different constructs, and they both do more. But actions speak louder than words, and I can use the power of mod to have more influence on the forum.

 

I could do this in the event I don't become mod, but I wouldn't change anything unless people get more involved. And having desire wouldn't change anything, unless I have more utility to do something with that desire. That is why I am bringing this up, as it is opportunity to mention it.

 

I will and have only been replying to posts that are directed toward me and what I feel is appropriate to talk about in relevance to this thread or in relevance to having the opportunity. I am not pushing or taking opportunity to say that I will become mod. I am only conversing about what I can elaborate on and discuss.