Lee Cheng Men Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Oh my god, this card has a really strong second effect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 So uh, if you use the 2nd effect to destroy a monster that wasn't properly SS'd from ED (or any monster that cannot be SS'd), can you set it to your field? It doesn't say SS face-down to your side of the field, just set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 actualy i thought of tossing in only three infrrnoids with 3 imagination, take brilliant fusion for an example. tierra rarely ever gets three effs in pure infernoids so perhaps being a beater and able to mill 3 from ED was enough justification...uh, forget it, I guess thats just one of those ideas that look nice on paper but in reality it feels really forced and unsynergesticIt's honestly no different from the 3/3 engine people have been running in Monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 It's honestly no different from the 3/3 engine people have been running in Monarchs. I think your opponent needing to control an extra deck monster and you having to play three infernoids, two of which you can't even summon, in your deck is very different. Also the overall purpose of both engines is drastically different, along with the decks you aim to play them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I think your opponent needing to control an extra deck monster and you having to play three infernoids, two of which you can't even summon, in your deck is very different. Also the overall purpose of both engines is drastically different, along with the decks you aim to play them in.Meant it in terms of live cards to blanks, not in terms of interactions and outside factors.. But yes, you are right. The two are drastically different when taking into account the above factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 So, about using this card alongside Ultimaya Tzolkin... Tech in Deep Sea Diva or some Ice Barrier Tuners? While I expect you'd want to be spamming Treatoad as much as possible, Lemuria also allows access to Ranks 4 and 5, maybe even higher, which can make up for the general mediocrity of the rest of the Rank 2 pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 So, about using this card alongside Ultimaya Tzolkin... Tech in Deep Sea Diva or some Ice Barrier Tuners? While I expect you'd want to be spamming Treatoad as much as possible, Lemuria also allows access to Ranks 4 and 5, maybe even higher, which can make up for the general mediocrity of the rest of the Rank 2 pool.What is Lemuria again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 What is Lemuria again?...The card that he has a picture of in the post? I guess Lemuria shenanigans could work, but how consistently would you be able to get do enough shenanigans to get out Ultimaya+Treatoad? Seems like it would take a whole lot of resources even with Lemuria backing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Why has no one mentioned Bahamut Shark Yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 ...The card that he has a picture of in the post? I guess Lemuria shenanigans could work, but how consistently would you be able to get do enough shenanigans to get out Ultimaya+Treatoad? Seems like it would take a whole lot of resources even with Lemuria backing it up....My bad I didnt read the card title :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Why has no one mentioned Bahamut Shark Yet?could have sworn somebody did earlier. i don't run it (because i don't own one), so it never occurred to me. either way, frogs hit their ceiling long ago, but this breathes new life into their possible interactions. i can't wait to get one or three when it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Why has no one mentioned Bahamut Shark Yet?I think it had been mentioned, but is there a much easier way to field Ulti and Bahamut? Norden fills half of Bahamut's condition, but then there's getting a level 4 WATER monster in grave... ...or are you just mentioning that Bahamut can make this in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 really, it's not worth the effort to go the ultimaya route. it's powerful, but it takes investment, as a side option maybe, but as the end goal, it's reaching too far. (by that i mean fielding both at the same time as a consistent plan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think it had been mentioned, but is there a much easier way to field Ulti and Bahamut? Norden fills half of Bahamut's condition, but then there's getting a level 4 WATER monster in grave... ...or are you just mentioning that Bahamut can make this in general?Atlantean mostly, Noden into goons, make this at a +2 Doesn't even have to be Noden if you're in OCG. Getting a rank 4 out in Atlantean (the most competitive water deck atm) isn't THAT hard You can make a pretty dope field w/ this for free in that deck, also getting back Prince is nifty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Atlantean mostly, Noden into goons, make this at a +2How do Atlanteans make Ultimaya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 How do Atlanteans make Ultimaya?Found it, Steam Synchron+Abyssmander Seems memey at first till you realize you can make rank 8's off that if you play a different route (pitch the Junk off Accel) Sadly OCG no long has Noden :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Atlantean mostly, Noden into goons, make this at a +2 Doesn't even have to be Noden if you're in OCG. Getting a rank 4 out in Atlantean (the most competitive water deck atm) isn't THAT hard You can make a pretty dope field w/ this for free in that deck, also getting back Prince is niftyI think this has, indeed, be mentioned in the thread somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think this has, indeed, be mentioned in the thread somewhere.My apologies then didn't mean to steal your idea I did remember the Mander play being used to make Ultimaya-Felgrand and couldn't find any mention of that :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think it had been mentioned, but is there a much easier way to field Ulti and Bahamut? Norden fills half of Bahamut's condition, but then there's getting a level 4 WATER monster in grave... ...or are you just mentioning that Bahamut can make this in general?Pair Wind Up Shark/Beautunaful Princess with Gofu. In most cases you are trading a 2nd Bahamut for an Ultimaya (assuming you are playing Gofu over a level 4 Water that can SS itself ie Unexpected Dai) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 What would this be used in anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 What would this be used in anyways?anything aqua that can summon it. the 2nd effect in combination with the 3rd ensures that anything that can summon this will want 2-3 of it. so mermail, burgs, frogs, and that's about it right now. but it's an excellent addition to the R2 toolbox for the things that can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 What would this be used in anyways? anything aqua that can summon it. the 2nd effect in combination with the 3rd ensures that anything that can summon this will want 2-3 of it. so mermail, burgs, frogs, and that's about it right now. but it's an excellent addition to the R2 toolbox for the things that can use it.Also any R4NK WATER deck will use Bahamut Shark to get this out. It allows you to go +2 for negating any effect your opponent activates, which is kinda too much to turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeaux Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Added a Instant Fusion and opened a slot for 2 of this in my Zielgigas build. Not made it a top tier deck but certainly made it a little bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 AHL+Goblin/Tin Gold+E-Call/ROTA+Hero (it's actually not that hard to do, esp w/ the CoDDD engine)=Treatoad+Law+Rafflesia+Bahamut AHL->Mist->MC Tin->Stratos->Bubble->Bahamut->Treatoad (get back one one of em when you neg) Stratos+Bubble->Rafflesia Chain MC w/e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Frogs getting something nice to support them is good and all, but what has this game become? Swap Frog is potentially a 1 card mini Quasar that has utility on the field, utility in the grave and no OPT People thought CDI was bad design Like Jesus H. Christ, omni-negation is way to cheap these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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