Expelsword Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 The British citizenry right now. When do you think this will come off the list? I never see anyone use it anymore; probably related to Pendulums, Monarchs and non-targeting on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It was the best Trap In OCG right up till Twin Twister made chainability worth 0 fucks Oh and funk kozmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 This used to be my favorite Trap Card. Even when it was Limited, it helped disrupt Xyz plays. But by now, with targeting protection and Pendulum Monsters being more prevalent, I don't use it at all.Oh and funk kozmoAmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It's bad and has honestly been mediocre or worse in TCG for a long time. It's also not fair in multiples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It's bad and has honestly been mediocre or worse in TCG for a long time. It's also not fair in multiples. It sounds like you have two different opinions here. If it's mediocre, what makes it so much better in multiples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It sounds like you have two different opinions here. If it's mediocre, what makes it so much better in multiples?It easily shits on ED monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It sounds like you have two different opinions here. If it's mediocre, what makes it so much better in multiples?It easily shits on ED monstersSimilarly to TT, it's garbage against Pendulum, but has potential against other stuff. In Compulse's case, even the Pendulum Matchup has uses, as it can answer Ignister/etc. on the cheap, before it does anything. It's also similar to Book of Moon, although much slower for more potency, in that it can be used offensively or defensively. Then there's the fact that it outs even Omega with no real issue, which is a bit of a feat. It's bad at 1, but it has the potential to be entirely unfair in multiples. 1 is unreliable and not strong enough in most matchups, 2-3 is more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Similarly to TT, it's garbage against Pendulum, but has potential against other stuff. In Compulse's case, even the Pendulum Matchup has uses, as it can answer Ignister/etc. on the cheap, before it does anything. It's also similar to Book of Moon, although much slower for more potency, in that it can be used offensively or defensively. Then there's the fact that it outs even Omega with no real issue, which is a bit of a feat. It's bad at 1, but it has the potential to be entirely unfair in multiples. 1 is unreliable and not strong enough in most matchups, 2-3 is more reliable.True. Just like Torrential Tribute, it sucks in TCG, as they're both limited, and the chances of impeding plays with them are low, whereas in OCG, both are unlimited, thus interrupting more plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 True. Just like Torrential Tribute, it sucks in TCG, as they're both limited, and the chances of impeding plays with them are low, whereas in OCG, both are unlimited, thus interrupting more plays.Torrential doesn't see much play even in OCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Torrential doesn't see much play even in OCGThat's not the point I was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Similarly to TT, it's garbage against Pendulum, but has potential against other stuff. In Compulse's case, even the Pendulum Matchup has uses, as it can answer Ignister/etc. on the cheap, before it does anything. It's also similar to Book of Moon, although much slower for more potency, in that it can be used offensively or defensively. Then there's the fact that it outs even Omega with no real issue, which is a bit of a feat. It's bad at 1, but it has the potential to be entirely unfair in multiples. 1 is unreliable and not strong enough in most matchups, 2-3 is more reliable. So... keep it @1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 So... keep it @1?Or, as suggested for Book of Moon, Semi-Limit it and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Or, as suggested for Book of Moon, Semi-Limit it and see how it goes. I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 No keep it and moon at three. Extra Deck monster and such are getting a lot stronger. We want more non-destruction removal and disruption.Similarly to TT, it's garbage against Pendulum, but has potential against other stuff. In Compulse's case, even the Pendulum Matchup has uses, as it can answer Ignister/etc. on the cheap, before it does anything. It's also similar to Book of Moon, although much slower for more potency, in that it can be used offensively or defensively. Then there's the fact that it outs even Omega with no real issue, which is a bit of a feat. It's bad at 1, but it has the potential to be entirely unfair in multiples. 1 is unreliable and not strong enough in most matchups, 2-3 is more reliable."Potential" to be unfair. I'd say cards like Ignister, Law, and Omg-can't-touch-me are unfair for most decks to deal with Not sure being strong against unfair cards and being fairly balanced in general makes a card unfair That's being said, good luck getting TCG to move their main feat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪ ♪Aria ♪ ♪ Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I still use this to save me from a pinch, since it is simple, but can be devastating, especially against hard to summon monsters.....This punishes Xyz, Synchros, and Fusions, since it returns theem to your hand, not to the extra deckThis card can also save your precious monster before a mass destruction, like Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, others.....and can be comboed for certain special summonsBut keeping it at 1 will be best..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I still use this to save me from a pinch, since it is simple, but can be devastating, especially against hard to summon monsters.....It's nothing against Pendulum. This card can also save your precious monster before a mass destruction, like Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, others.....and can be comboed for certain special summonsRarely But keeping it at 1 will be best.....Or, Semi-Limit it and see if it's too much or if it doesn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 This punishes Xyz, Synchros, and Fusions, since it returns theem to your hand, not to the extra deck I think you've spent too much on a fully manual dueling system. Those cards go to the Extra Deck instead of the hand, if they ever would be sent back to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yeah kozmo kinda killed compulse QQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yeah kozmo kinda killed compulse QQWell you can still force out a ship by targeting a pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 The TCG made the game evolve to the point where the limit was overdue and the card became completely useless. It only has a use of spinning Extra Deck monsters, and it's not worth awaiting what your opponent will summon now since decks like Kozmo and Monarchs don't have to use the Extra constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 The TCG made the game evolve to the point where the limit was overdue and the card became completely useless. It only has a use of spinning Extra Deck monsters, and it's not worth awaiting what your opponent will summon now since decks like Kozmo and Monarchs don't have to use the Extra constantly.OCG's aggressive put down of Monarchs certainly helped bring it back into the fold. But chaining to Either summon effect can be pretty neat. Kozmo were just a poor idea. But one that the list can deal with. I just hope we don't see more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Kozmo were just a poor idea.Kozmo was an awful idea.OCG's aggressive put down of Monarchs certainly helped bring it back into the fold.I could see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Kozmo was an awful idea.I could see that.It would have been tolerable if the banish of the pilots was an effect and not a cost. *gags* I'm not looking forward to the day when OCG gets Kozmo, but alteast CED is a massive cockblock to kozmo yeah, I meant the irony to be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 It would have been tolerable if the banish of the pilots was an effect and not a cost. *gags* I'm not looking forward to the day when OCG gets Kozmo, but alteast CED is a massive cockblock to kozmo yeah, I meant the irony to be thereYeah; it also doesn't help that the Machine-Types do more than they should be allowed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Been out the game for so long that this, Book of Moon, and Torrential Tribute are apparently bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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