Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 And this is what the left thinks of Islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 What's crazy in that statement? It's well known that a lot of Islamic nations in the Middle East are incredibly conservative, and you see a lot of stories about people being beaten or killed for expressing the wrong kind of viewpoint in those nations. You don't even need to express it sometimes (I remember reading a story about a woman who was beaten to death about a anti Islam story that wasn't even published). Given it's in the context of trying to make SA more progressive, I see nothing wrong with that statement. It's not talking about Islam in general, simply Islam in Saudi Arabia. I do however disagree with your choice of words in an attempt to immediately draw lines and stir some sheet up needlessly. Because we can, if we need to, slam 'the right' over what they think of Islam far more than the left. But we shouldn't need to, because that should be funking irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 What's crazy in that statement? It's well known that a lot of Islamic nations in the Middle East are incredibly conservative, and you see a lot of stories about people being beaten or killed for expressing the wrong kind of viewpoint in those nations. You don't even need to express it sometimes (I remember reading a story about a woman who was beaten to death about a anti Islam story that wasn't even published). Given it's in the context of trying to make SA more progressive, I see nothing wrong with that statement. It's not talking about Islam in general, simply Islam in Saudi Arabia. I do however disagree with your choice of words in an attempt to immediately draw lines and stir some sheet up needlessly. Because we can, if we need to, slam 'the right' over what they think of Islam far more than the left. But we shouldn't need to, because that should be funking irrelevant. Left agrees with the right that Islam as it stands (in the ME) is backwards and needs to be redone I once again agree with them on their analysis, disagree with them on their conclusion to humanize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 http://archive.is/9yzrc Bump This is actually a really neat read. I think it highlights what whabbism has done to Islam quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicmemesbro Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I suppose I should give my two cents on this matter, but all I will say is this: There are many people who doubt that middle eastern countries will adopt a democracy because they say "Islamist culture" prevents them from doing so as it contradicts their principle. There is nothing about a culture that keeps it from adopting a democracy. Scholars have said the same thing about China, claiming that "Confucian" culture would prevent China from adopting capitalist ideas into their government. It was also believed that Catholic countries wouldn't become democracies because "Catholic culture" accustomed them to a hierarchical system. That doesn't seem to be the case now does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Nah, the Islam that committed genocide against my people and wiped most of us out, is still the same Islam that exists in that region. Everytime a moderate leader rises up they put him down (look at Iran) My hope is that more like Sisi will come forward and take the reigns, but I've learned not to be optimistic about Islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Nah, the Islam that committed genocide against my people and wiped most of us out Alright I have to ask. Did anyone you knew personally get killed in this genocide? If not, why do you keep bringing it up as "against my people"? I don't understand why you have to make it personal so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 If you asked me if anyone I knew personally was a slave and then told me not to take it personal, I would break your jaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Alright I have to ask. Did anyone you knew personally get killed in this genocide? If not, why do you keep bringing it up as "against my people"? I don't understand why you have to make it personal so often.Because my ancestors controlled Iran, and the wiped out 90% of our race. IDK how many jews today know nazis, but you can't expect the jews to forget the holocaust can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Because my ancestors controlled Iran, and the wiped out 90% of our race. IDK how many jews today know nazis, but you can't expect the jews to forget the holocaust can you?Wouldn't it be more akin to a Jew hating Germans because of the nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wouldn't it be more akin to a Jew hating Germans because of the nazis?No, Germans aren't Nazis, the islamist who wiped out my race haven't act the same way the animals currently living in the ME do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Doesn't that seem like a slightly unfair generalization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 No, Germans aren't Nazis, the islamist who wiped out my race haven't act the same way the animals currently living in the ME doBut you have gone on record as being against Islam in general.Hence the Nazi comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 But you have gone on record as being against Islam in general.Hence the Nazi comparison.More Whabbism than Islam Like I'm pretty happy with how Assad and Sisi run their countries, not fond of SA or how Iran works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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