-Griffin Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 It's, to my knowledge, an Empty Jar Deck that uses Cyber Jar for drawing without the discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Question...Can Book of Moon be used to negate Flip Effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lawless Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 [spoiler=eff]When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can select 1 face-up Winged Beast-Type "Dragunity" monster you control and equip it with a Level 3 or lower Dragon-Type "Dragunity" monster from your Deck as an Equip Spell Card. [spoiler=eff]When this card is Normal Summoned, you can Special Summon 1 Winged Beast-Type "Dragunity" monster from your hand, treat this card as an Equip Card and equip it to that card. If this card is equipped to a monster as an Equip Card, the equipped monster is treated as a Tuner. Summon Primus w/ Partisan, Primus misses the timing, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Seraphim Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I just came across something wierd (as in wierd for me). "Rivalry of Warlords" So i was playing Tag Force 4 and my opponent had this on the field. I summon Rescue cat and get out a Des Koala and a Airbellum to syncro into a Goyo, but the game didn't let me. So is that a glitch in the game or the actuall rulling? (Lolwikia says nothing about it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 What happens if I Book of Moon or Book of Eclipse Judgement Dragon when it uses its summoned? Can my opponent call priority? Would the effect of JD disappear when JD is flipped face down? If not, would JD be destroyed by it's own effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namo™ Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What happens if I Book of Moon or Book of Eclipse Judgement Dragon when it uses its summoned? Can my opponent call priority? Would the effect of JD disappear when JD is flipped face down? If not' date=' would JD be destroyed by it's own effect?[/quote'] I believe JD's effect would not activate, would anyone else like to verify this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I just came across something wierd (as in wierd for me). "Rivalry of Warlords" So i was playing Tag Force 4 and my opponent had this on the field. I summon Rescue cat and get out a Des Koala and a Airbellum to syncro into a Goyo' date=' but the game didn't let me. So is that a glitch in the game or the actuall rulling? (Lolwikia says nothing about it).[/quote']It's not a glitch. It's a real ruling. Can I negate the effect of Samsara Kaiser with By Order of the Emperor? What happens if I Book of Moon or Book of Eclipse Judgement Dragon when it uses its summoned? Can my opponent call priority? Would the effect of JD disappear when JD is flipped face down? If not' date=' would JD be destroyed by it's own effect?[/quote'] I believe JD's effect would not activate, would anyone else like to verify this? If an effect is chained to “Demise's” effect to flip “Demise, King of Armageddon” face-down, he is still not destroyed by his effect. [1] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Seraphim Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 So with Rivalry of Warlords Does it mean that gladiators can't tag out? Or if they have a face up laquari and set a bestiari, can they contact to gyzarus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Is there a rare, English version of Foolish Burial? I wanna make my entire deck rare and up, and that's the only thing in it that's not rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Is there a rare' date=' English version of Foolish Burial? I wanna make my entire deck rare and up, and that's the only thing in it that's not rare.[/quote'] I looked at wikia. Apparently the common is the only one in english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Is there a rare' date=' English version of Foolish Burial? I wanna make my entire deck rare and up, and that's the only thing in it that's not rare.[/quote'] I looked at wikia. Apparently the common is the only one in english. >.< Screw that. I'm gonna make my own. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Is there a rare' date=' English version of Foolish Burial? I wanna make my entire deck rare and up, and that's the only thing in it that's not rare.[/quote'] I looked at wikia. Apparently the common is the only one in english. >.< Screw that. I'm gonna make my own. Thanks. I'm willing to bet that Turbo pack 2 will have it as a super... So with Rivalry of Warlords Does it mean that gladiators can't tag out? Or if they have a face up laquari and set a bestiari' date=' can they contact to gyzarus?[/quote'] No gyzarus, as they must be face up to contact, They can tag out, but if more than 1 type is on the field after the tagout, you must destroy one of them. Ex1 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into equeste (beast), 1 remains on field = both stay on field.Ex2 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into bestiari = destroy either samnite or bestiari. Does that answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Seraphim Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 So with Rivalry of Warlords Does it mean that gladiators can't tag out? Or if they have a face up laquari and set a bestiari' date=' can they contact to gyzarus?[/quote'] No gyzarus, as they must be face up to contact, They can tag out, but if more than 1 type is on the field after the tagout, you must destroy one of them. Ex1 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into equeste (beast), 1 remains on field = both stay on field.Ex2 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into bestiari = destroy either samnite or bestiari. Does that answer your question? Yes and no :p ... Are you sure you can't contact fuse while your monsters are face down? And in example 2, if you destroy your bestiari will it's effect still go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What happens if I Book of Moon or Book of Eclipse Judgement Dragon when it uses its summoned? Can my opponent call priority? Would the effect of JD disappear when JD is flipped face down? If not' date=' would JD be destroyed by it's own effect?[/quote'] I believe JD's effect would not activate, would anyone else like to verify this? Wrong. Okay, you cannot chain to the summon of a Monster, unless you are going to negate the summon, because summoning does not start a chain. So, lets say Player A has 4 different Lightsworn Monsters(doesn't matter which 4). Player A summons "Judgment Dragon" in Attack Mode. Player B does not activate any counter traps to negate the summoning. Player A has the option to call priority, TO START a chain. Player A declares Priority, using "Judgment Dragon"s effect. Player B can now chain his Book of Moon or Book of Eclipse. Player A can chain, if/when Player B Chains/does not want to chain. (We will assume Player B chains Book of Moon). Player A, in this example will not chain anything, and passes the chain to player B. Player B passes, and the chain ends. The chain resolves, with Player B's "Book of Moon" resolving first, turning Judgment Dragon Face-Down in Defense Position. Player A's "Judgment Dragon" resolves, destroying every card except Player A's "Judgment Dragon" that is now face down(because the wording on "Judgment Dragon" says "This Card." So with Rivalry of Warlords Does it mean that gladiators can't tag out? Or if they have a face up laquari and set a bestiari' date=' can they contact to gyzarus?[/quote'] No gyzarus, as they must be face up to contactThey can tag out, but if more than 1 type is on the field after the tagout, you must destroy one of them. Ex1 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into equeste (beast), 1 remains on field = both stay on field.Ex2 . 2 Samnites on field, 1 tags into bestiari = destroy either samnite or bestiari. Does that answer your question? The Bolded is incorrect. A controller of "Gladiator Beast Bestiari" and the "Gladiator Beast Laquari" can return both to the deck. As long as you show "Gladiator Beast Bestiari" when you return both "Gladiator Beast" monsters, you can fusion summons "Gladiator Beast Gyzarus." While "Rivalry of Warlords" is active' date=' you can still Set monsters face-down if they are a different Type than the Type you control. If your face-down monster of a different Type is attacked, then the monster is destroyed after damage calculation. If the destroyed monster of a different Type was a Flip Effect Monster, its Flip Effect is still activated, and then the destroyed monster is sent to the Graveyard. If your face-down monster of a different Type is flipped by "Swords of Revealing Light", "Book of Taiyou", etc., then it is destroyed as necessary.[1'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What's the difference between responding to a summon, and chaining to a summon? I.E. Solemn Judgment and Bottomless Traphole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 One starts a chain link and negates it.The other one responds to it and doesn't negate it. These cards always mean that the player who's summoning it has the first chance to respond. So you can't bottomless before they, for example, nuke with JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What's the difference between responding to a summon' date=' and chaining to a summon? I.E. Solemn Judgment and Bottomless Traphole?[/quote'] Okay, first, you need to know that summons DO NOT start a chain. This means the opposing player cannot activate anything that does not negate the summon(i.e. Solemn Judgment, Forced Back), without the player who summoned the monster calling priority. For Example: Player A summons "Goblin Attack Force" in attack mode. Player B cannot activate his "Bottomless Trap Hole" or his "Book of Moon" but he can activate his "Forced Back." If Player B does not want to activate his "Forced Back" he passes the ability to negate the summon. Now, the game state sees that "Goblin Attack Force" was summoned successfully. "Goblin Attack Force"'s summon is Chain Link 1. Player B can now respond with "Bottomless Trap Hole" or "Book of Moon", but cannot activate "Forced Back." Player B activates "Bottomless Trap Hole". Player A can now respond, and he does, with "Torrential Tribute." Player A is allowed to do this, because the Successful Summon of "Goblin Attack Force" is the last thing that has resolved. Player B does not chain. Player A does not chain to "Torrential Tribute." The chain resolves now, Starting with Torrential Tribute. Torrential Tribute destroys every monster on the field, including Player A's "Goblin Attack Force." "Bottomless Trap Hole"'s effect does not resolve correctly, because the "Goblin Attack Force" is not on the field any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I get it now. Thanks bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Question...Can Book of Moon be used to negate Flip Effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What's the difference between responding to a summon' date=' and chaining to a summon? I.E. Solemn Judgment and Bottomless Traphole?[/quote'] Okay, first, you need to know that summons DO NOT start a chain. This means the opposing player cannot activate anything that does not negate the summon(i.e. Solemn Judgment, Forced Back), without the player who summoned the monster calling priority. For Example: Player A's turn:Player A summons "Goblin Attack Force" in attack mode. Player B cannot activate his "Bottomless Trap Hole" or his "Book of Moon" but he can activate his "Forced Back." If Player B does not want to activate his "Forced Back" he passes the ability to negate the summon. Now, the game state sees that "Goblin Attack Force" was summoned successfully. "Goblin Attack Force"'s summon has no chain link. Player A can now respond, and he does, with "Torrential Tribute." Player A is allowed to do this, because the Successful Summon of "Goblin Attack Force" is the last thing that has resolved and the turn player has priority. Player B can now respond with "Bottomless Trap Hole" or "Book of Moon", but cannot activate "Forced Back." Player B activates "Bottomless Trap Hole". Player A does not chain. Player B does not chain to "Bottomless Trap Hole." The chain resolves now, Starting with Bottomless Trap Hole. Bottomless Trap Hole destroyed "Goblin Attack Force, removing it from play Torrential Tribute destroys every monster on the field, no longer including Player A's "Goblin Attack Force." This was posted backwards first. Fix'd. Many people play it the way originally posted, but the rules don't fit it. (Unless this was another of my epic fail moments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What happens if my opponent has a Zombie world out and i activate a DNA surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Question...Can Book of Moon be used to negate Flip Effects? No. What's the difference between responding to a summon' date=' and chaining to a summon? I.E. Solemn Judgment and Bottomless Traphole?[/quote'] Okay, first, you need to know that summons DO NOT start a chain. This means the opposing player cannot activate anything that does not negate the summon(i.e. Solemn Judgment, Forced Back), without the player who summoned the monster calling priority. For Example: Player A's turn:Player A summons "Goblin Attack Force" in attack mode. Player B cannot activate his "Bottomless Trap Hole" or his "Book of Moon" but he can activate his "Forced Back." If Player B does not want to activate his "Forced Back" he passes the ability to negate the summon. Now, the game state sees that "Goblin Attack Force" was summoned successfully. "Goblin Attack Force"'s summon has no chain link. Player A can now respond, and he does, with "Torrential Tribute." Player A is allowed to do this, because the Successful Summon of "Goblin Attack Force" is the last thing that has resolved and the turn player has priority. Player B can now respond with "Bottomless Trap Hole" or "Book of Moon", but cannot activate "Forced Back." Player B activates "Bottomless Trap Hole". Player A does not chain. Player B does not chain to "Bottomless Trap Hole." The chain resolves now, Starting with Bottomless Trap Hole. Bottomless Trap Hole destroyed "Goblin Attack Force, removing it from play Torrential Tribute destroys every monster on the field, no longer including Player A's "Goblin Attack Force." This was posted backwards first. Fix'd. Many people play it the way originally posted, but the rules don't fit it. My bad, I have trouble wording it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What happens if my opponent has a Zombie world out and i activate a DNA surgery? Last one activated has it's effect work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Can you chain something to a card's effect activation, but not it's activation?(I.E Solemn Wishes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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