-Berserker- Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I would compare it more closely to Shura and Hydrogedon. If that helps. I want to know if I can Inferno Reckless Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polycarp Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Can someone help me out? I've never been able to understand exactly what happens during battle, like the Damage Step and this and the other. And somehow "missing the timing" because of something like that =/ Can someone explain this for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I would compare it more closely to Shura and Hydrogedon. If that helps. I want to know if I can Inferno Reckless Summon. That would be a no. Both effects are still within the damage step.Can someone help me out? I've never been able to understand exactly what happens during battle' date=' like the Damage Step and this and the other. And somehow "missing the timing" because of something like that =/ Can someone explain this for me?[/quote'] Okay, TL;DR The battle phase has a couple of steps. Attack declaration Damage Step End Step. Attack declaration is just that. Declare an attack and see if there is a response. If there is no response from either player, move to the damage step. The damage step has a bunch of rules that says that if card effects doesn't specifically state "Damage Step" or "Damage Calculation" It cant be activated. There are however some exceptions. Those would be your Negate effects like Prime material dragon and Stardust dragon. Cards that Directly Modify ATK and DEF like shrink and Rush recklessly. And Counter traps. This also means that cards like Mirror force and Waboku can not be used in this step. End Step. This comes at the end of the damage step where monster effects resolve like Giant rat and Sangan. THIS IS STILL PART OF THE DAMAGE STEP so the amount of cards you can activate is still limited. Flip effects are also activated here. Missing the timing. This is when an optional effect collides with another action, whether it be the summoning of another monster or another effect. To not miss the timing on the card the last thing to happen must be the placement of the card. IE Petten going to the graveyard must be the last thing that happens in order to activate its effect. That means that if you use Petten as a tribute summon for a monarch you will miss the timing. Reason for this is that the last thing that happened was the summoning of your monarch and the monarchs effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Question when a synchro monster is destroyed, does it go to the graveyard or return to the extra deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Graveyard. ETG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 The opponent activates Fissure. I activate Light and Darkness Dragon's effect. They tribute Doomcaliber. Does L&DD negate Doomcal or does it not hit the graveyard? Can I chain Forbidden Chalice to L&DD's effect or will it be negated? how many times can L&DD negate an effect per chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 If you Divine Wrath/Stardust/otherwise negate (or destroy in the grave) Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, does your opponent get regular Stardust back? I'd assume not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 @Darkest Hour: LaDD can only negate one effect per chain. Can I activate Fortune Future if Macro Cosmos or Dimensional Fussre is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 @Burnpsy:When this card on the FIELD is destroyed, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 @Burnpsy:When this card on the FIELD is destroyed' date=' etc...[/quote'] Thought as much, but I've heard people arguing against it. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 @Burnpsy:When this card on the FIELD is destroyed' date=' etc...[/quote'] Thought as much, but I've heard people arguing against it. >.>those r the people we like to call wrong. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 can someone explain what would happen after this happens future fution summons cydratech overdragon, activate dimension explosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 can someone explain what would happen after this happens future fution summons cydratech overdragon' date=' activate dimension explosion[/quote'] lolz You bring back 2 RFP'd cards, return Overdragon to the Extra Deck, then everything on your side is sent to the graveyard. xD Simple enough chain to follow, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 can someone explain what would happen after this happens future fution summons cydratech overdragon' date=' activate dimension explosion[/quote'] lolz You bring back 2 RFP'd cards, return Overdragon to the Extra Deck, then everything on your side is sent to the graveyard. xD Simple enough chain to follow, really. You forgot to mention that you gave your opponent 1-2 monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 is an allured card sent to the grave instead with iron wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Can gales effect activate during the damage step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Seraphim Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 is an allured card sent to the grave instead with iron wall "Allure of Darkness" (or "Common Charity"' date=' etc.) cannot be activated while "Imperial Iron Wall" is active. If you activate "Allure of Darkness" and "Imperial Iron Wall" is chained, after drawing 2 cards you will reveal 1 DARK Monster from your hand, and the revealed DARK Monster remains in your hand. If you do not have any DARK Monsters in your hand, your entire hand is sent to the Graveyard.[/quote'] Can gales effect activate during the damage step No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Can a chain ever be longer than the following?: Player 1 has 3 Stardust Dragons, 2 Koa’ki Meiru Guardians and 3 Counter Counters and a Solemn Judgment on the field, along with 3 Herald of Orange Lights and 3 other Fairy-type Monsters in their hand.Player 2 has 3 Stardust Dragons, a Koa’ki Meiru Guardian, a Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, 3 Counter Counters, and an Assault Counter on the field, along with a Heavy Storm, 3 Herald of Orange Lights, and 3 other Fairy-type monsters in their hand. Player 2 plays Heavy Storm.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Assault Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Solemn Judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 how would an answer to this be beneficial to anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 how would an answer to this be beneficial to anyone? I was bored and decided to look for some more useless trivia. >.> Therefore, I will have another piece of worthless information to quiz completely and utterly random people on for no apparent reason (I do that a lot xD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Burnspy, have something earlier go off that turn that gives both players 40 card hands, including other Heralds, I'm sure there's some way that can make it longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If you Divine Wrath/Stardust/otherwise negate (or destroy in the grave) Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode' date=' does your opponent get regular Stardust back? I'd assume not...[/quote'] No card can destroy a card in the Graveyard. It simply skips that effect and continues with the rest. That means that, in this case, he wouldn't get Stardust Dragon back because Stardust Buster tributed himself. Can a chain ever be longer than the following?: Player 1 has 3 Stardust Dragons' date=' 2 Koa’ki Meiru Guardians and 3 Counter Counters and a Solemn Judgment on the field, along with 3 Herald of Orange Lights and 3 other Fairy-type Monsters in their hand.[*']Player 2 has 3 Stardust Dragons, a Koa’ki Meiru Guardian, a Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, 3 Counter Counters, and an Assault Counter on the field, along with a Heavy Storm, 3 Herald of Orange Lights, and 3 other Fairy-type monsters in their hand. Player 2 plays Heavy Storm.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Assault Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Solemn Judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If you Divine Wrath/Stardust/otherwise negate (or destroy in the grave) Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode' date=' does your opponent get regular Stardust back? I'd assume not...[/quote'] No card can destroy a card in the Graveyard. It simply skips that effect and continues with the rest. That means that, in this case, he wouldn't get Stardust Dragon back because Stardust Buster tributed himself. Can a chain ever be longer than the following?: Player 1 has 3 Stardust Dragons' date=' 2 Koa’ki Meiru Guardians and 3 Counter Counters and a Solemn Judgment on the field, along with 3 Herald of Orange Lights and 3 other Fairy-type Monsters in their hand.[*']Player 2 has 3 Stardust Dragons, a Koa’ki Meiru Guardian, a Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, 3 Counter Counters, and an Assault Counter on the field, along with a Heavy Storm, 3 Herald of Orange Lights, and 3 other Fairy-type monsters in their hand. Player 2 plays Heavy Storm.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Assault Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Solemn Judgment. Where will the player activate call? there is no empty space in the S/T zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If you Divine Wrath/Stardust/otherwise negate (or destroy in the grave) Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode' date=' does your opponent get regular Stardust back? I'd assume not...[/quote'] No card can destroy a card in the Graveyard. It simply skips that effect and continues with the rest. That means that, in this case, he wouldn't get Stardust Dragon back because Stardust Buster tributed himself. Can a chain ever be longer than the following?: Player 1 has 3 Stardust Dragons' date=' 2 Koa’ki Meiru Guardians and 3 Counter Counters and a Solemn Judgment on the field, along with 3 Herald of Orange Lights and 3 other Fairy-type Monsters in their hand.[*']Player 2 has 3 Stardust Dragons, a Koa’ki Meiru Guardian, a Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, 3 Counter Counters, and an Assault Counter on the field, along with a Heavy Storm, 3 Herald of Orange Lights, and 3 other Fairy-type monsters in their hand. Player 2 plays Heavy Storm.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 2 negates with Stardust Dragon.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 1 negates with Koa’ki Meiru Guardian.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 1 negates with Herald of Orange Light.Player 2 negates with Assault Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Counter Counter.Player 2 negates with Counter Counter.Player 1 negates with Solemn Judgment. Where will the player activate call? there is no empty space in the S/T zone. Player 1 still has an empty spot. He can chain it to his own Solemn Judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 mystik wok= origional ATK or DEF or current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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