Atypical-Abbie Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Quick query, by using the effect of Zany Zebra, am I allowed block off field spell zones or pendulum zones?Not part of the S&T zone so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 So, kind of a big ruling question that me and others can't really decide on, and I'm probably going to email Koomy about this, but here goes. Say the opponent has Dominion of the Monarchs out, and a Tribute Summoned monster. What you do, is you successfully tribute summon Red Layer and have Magnacarrier out and the means to overlay him into Magnaliger. Here's where the issue pops up:- One possible ruling is that once Red Layer is used as a material, you no longer have a Tribute Summoned monster out and the summon is not successful; sending Red Layer to the graveyard.- You are unable to overlay your one tribute summoned monster into an Extra Deck summon because this the above scenario would occur (you would no longer have a Tribute Summoned monster on the field and thus would be unable to Special Summon from the Extra Deck)- Continuous effects do not change state during the resolution of a given action or effect (such as summoning from the Extra Deck or using Magnacarrier's effect) and the summon is successful; placing an Xyz Monster on the field. This is kind of a big deal what we're trying to figure out, because this will determine how Dominion is coded on DevPro (I will probably be emailing Konami about this; no rulings could be found) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 So, kind of a big ruling question that me and others can't really decide on, and I'm probably going to email Koomy about this, but here goes. Say the opponent has Dominion of the Monarchs out, and a Tribute Summoned monster. What you do, is you successfully tribute summon Red Layer and have Magnacarrier out and the means to overlay him into Magnaliger. Here's where the issue pops up:- One possible ruling is that once Red Layer is used as a material, you no longer have a Tribute Summoned monster out and the summon is not successful; sending Red Layer to the graveyard.- You are unable to overlay your one tribute summoned monster into an Extra Deck summon because this the above scenario would occur (you would no longer have a Tribute Summoned monster on the field and thus would be unable to Special Summon from the Extra Deck)- Continuous effects do not change state during the resolution of a given action or effect (such as summoning from the Extra Deck or using Magnacarrier's effect) and the summon is successful; placing an Xyz Monster on the field. This is kind of a big deal what we're trying to figure out, because this will determine how Dominion is coded on DevPro (I will probably be emailing Konami about this; no rulings could be found)You would be able to activate it, since the condition is correct, and also it Special Summons first, then attaches anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Now I can't say I'm 100% on this either, however on the Xyz Material section of the Wiki, I read the following phrase (last sentence of 2nd paragraph in rulings section http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material#Rulings): In addition, turning a Monster Card on the field into an Xyz Material through an Xyz Summon does not treat that monster as leaving the field either. The way i interpret that phrase is that you still control that monster as a monster until the moment the Xyz monster hits the field and that monster becomes its material. In other words, in the situation described above, you control a tribute summoned monster until the very instant the xyz monster is considered "summoned." This doesn't just apply to this situation however. It would also apply to naturally occurring xyz summons using at least 1 tribute summoned monster. For example, if you tribute summon Cyber Dragon, then have the ability to overlay into Nova, you should be able to assuming what I have interpreted is correct. I am not 100% convinced however, but that's the direction I am leaning towards for now. EDIT ninja'd while researching. GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 You would be able to activate it, since the condition is correct, and also it Special Summons first, then attaches anyway. To clarify; I am using Magnacarrier's effect to overlay an individual Layer into a mecha beast; not the effect that summons into Great Magnus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 To clarify; I am using Magnacarrier's effect to overlay an individual Layer into a mecha beast; not the effect that summons into Great Magnus.That's what I answered for, not that it would change the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Are Pendulum Monsters with no Monster effect but with a Pendulum effect effectively non-Effect monsters, or not?Are Pendulum Monsters such as "Shine Knight", without Pendulum nor Monster effect, non-Effect monsters? Asking for the purposes of non-Effect support such as Daigusto Emeral, White Elephant's Gift, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Are Pendulum Monsters with no Monster effect but with a Pendulum effect effectively non-Effect monsters, or not?Are Pendulum Monsters such as "Shine Knight", without Pendulum nor Monster effect, non-Effect monsters? Asking for the purposes of non-Effect support such as Daigusto Emeral, White Elephant's Gift, etc.If they have the Normal Monster bordering on their top, they are Normal Monsters. As to if they're an effect monster or not, just look at if they have the Effect Subtype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Well yeah, that much I can tell. My question is if them having a Pendulum Effect makes them no longer non-Effect monsters (it's a different classification to Normal Monsters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Well yeah, that much I can tell. My question is if them having a Pendulum Effect makes them no longer non-Effect monsters (it's a different classification to Normal Monsters).Look for the effect subtype. If it does not have the subtype, it is a non-effect monster. It's that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Makes sense to me. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sota Steelwing Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 What are the rulings on double sleeving cards? I put my deck in Yu-Gi-Oh! sized sleeves upside down and then use my standard card size Dragon Shield matte black sleeves to double sleeve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I don't think there's any issue with doing that, whatever you feel you gotta do to protect your cards, man. Not like it affects gameplay, aside from maybe making your deck bulkier and having it take slightly longer to shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 What are the rulings on double sleeving cards? I put my deck in Yu-Gi-Oh! sized sleeves upside down and then use my standard card size Dragon Shield matte black sleeves to double sleeve them. You may be allowed to at your locals (ask). Otherwise, you cannot "double sleeve" your cards at any higher levels of tournament play. Edit: You cannot "double sleeve" at locals by tournament policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 You may be allowed to at your locals (ask). Otherwise, you cannot "double sleeve" your cards at any higher levels of tournament play.Just to add a reference http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/events/organizedplay.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulblaka98 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 What are the rulings on double sleeving cards? I put my deck in Yu-Gi-Oh! sized sleeves upside down and then use my standard card size Dragon Shield matte black sleeves to double sleeve them. I don't think there's any issue with doing that, whatever you feel you gotta do to protect your cards, man. Not like it affects gameplay, aside from maybe making your deck bulkier and having it take slightly longer to shuffle. No, you are not permitted to double sleeve. D. Sleeves Duelists may not “double sleeve” their Decks or any part of their Deck. Only one sleeve may be used on each card, which includes cards used as Tokens. http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/penalty_guide/Yu-Gi-Oh!%20Tournament%20Policy%20v1.4%202013November14.pdf You may be allowed to at your locals (ask). Otherwise, you cannot "double sleeve" your cards at any higher levels of tournament play. False. KDE policy applies to all sanctioned events, regardless of what tier the event is. You may not double sleeve at any sanctioned event, locals included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sota Steelwing Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Well that sucks as the sleeves that Yu-Gi-Oh! cards use are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Who negates Who?The Fabled Unicore or Lose One Turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Lose 1 Turn's effect to change to DEF position would activate on summon, and therefore you can chain Unicore to it. HOWEVER, the effect negation is continuous while Turn is face-up. Therefore the negation effect does not actually activate, and so Unicore cannot actually respond to that particular clause. You can chain to the change in battle position sure, but that effect will be negated since the negation clause is always active and does not start a chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Who negates Who?The Fabled Unicore or Lose One Turn?Try to ask more specifically in the future, do you mean you activate Lose 1 Turn on the Summon, do you mean it was already face-up? We need more details. In case it's already face-up, it will already negate its effects, and the other effect of Lose 1 Turn will activate. If you activate Lose 1 Turn on its Summon, it will be negated as it has yet to resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Ignore. Found my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I summon Kozmo Tincan with Emergency Teleport. During the End Phase, will I be able to use Tincan's effect before it's banished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Effects come before any conditions lingering effects, and any lingering effects that occur can be placed in the order you want. You can create as many chains as you want before you fufill any lingering effects.Tincan is an effect, while Emergency Teleport's end phase banish clause is a lingering effect. Effects occur before lingering effects, so yes, you can use Tincan's effect to both add a Kozmo card and use its other effect to summon a ship. If you don't use the second effect, then Tincan will banish itself due to Emergency Teleport's lingering effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Effects come before any conditions, and any conditions that occur can be placed in the order you want. You can create as many chains as you want before you fufill any conditions.Tincan is an effect, while Emergency Teleport is a condition. Effects occur before conditions, so yes, you can use Tincan's effect to both add a Kozmo card and use its other effect to summon a ship. If you don't use the second effect, then Tincan will banish itself due to Emergency Teleport's condition.Emergency Teleport applies a lingering effect. It is not a condition. Also, Tincan does not banish itself in this case (to clarify, not due to activating its Quick Effect). It is banished by Emergency Teleport. You simply choose to activate Tincan's effect(s) before you choose to apply E-Tele's lingering effect. "Effects occur before conditions" is not a rule to follow by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Meh, my terminology is bad. I'll refrain from posting in this section from now on. As for sentence #2: I stated that Tincan would be banished from Emergency Teleport's effect if you decide not to use its quick effect to summon a ship, so I don't see what's wrong with that.Third line I'll concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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