Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Exiro]

If there is a face-up Stumbling and I summon a Gadget do I get another one or I miss the timing.

 

When Stumbling activates, the last thing that happened is still your Gadget being summoned, so you can still activate it's effect, and it'll be chain link 2.

[-Berserker-]

If I control 2 or more monsters with this effect:

If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster, it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.

Does the opponent monster battling 1 Alien monster I control have it's ATK decreased for each card I control with that effect?

[CrabHelmet]

If I control 2 or more monsters with this effect:

If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster' date=' it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.

Does the opponent monster battling 1 Alien monster I control have it's ATK decreased for each card I control with that effect?

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Yes. Each separate instance of that effect applies, and they stack.

[Jericho]

lolwikia has failed me. Rulings on Fusion Guard?

 

Can it be activated if I don't have an Extra Deck?

 

Can I send a Synchro as the cost?

[Dark Seraphim]

Gemini + Swing of memories = Keep your monster.

 

Alien Hypno + Mysterious Triangle = ???

 

So basicly if i second summon Hypno will he still be considered as the monster sp.summond bij Triangle?

[Exiro]

lolwikia has failed me. Rulings on Fusion Guard?

 

Can it be activated if I don't have an Extra Deck?

 

That would be like activating RotA while you have no Warriors in your deck; you can't.

 

 

Can I send a Synchro as the cost?

 

What cost and what Synchro monster in a deck that doesn't have an Extra Deck?

 

 

Gemini + Swing of memories = Keep your monster.

 

Alien Hypno + Mysterious Triangle = ???

 

So basicly if i second summon Hypno will he still be considered as the monster sp.summond bij Triangle?

 

I think that Geminis that are second summoned after being summoned by Swing of Memories aren't destroyed during the End Phase because they aren't Normal Monsters anymore by that time. Alien Hypno is still an Alien monster after being second summoned.

[Dark Seraphim]

Yeah i can see that screwing me =p.

 

What about Alien Grey?

 

Is he's face down and my opponent attacks him, i get to give a A-counter but to draw a card does he already have to be face up when he's attacked or does being face down still get me the draw?

 

Also: Code A Ancient Ruins

 

Does a face down alien monster being destroyed by battle give this card a A-counter?

[SephirothKirby]

If 2 Black Bulldrago are destroyed simultaneously, does 1 miss the timing?

[Exiro]

Yeah i can see that screwing me =p.

 

What about Alien Grey?

 

Is he's face down and my opponent attacks him' date=' i get to give a A-counter but to draw a card does he already have to be face up when he's attacked or does being face down still get me the draw?

 

Also: Code A Ancient Ruins

 

Does a face down alien monster being destroyed by battle give this card a A-counter?

 

I have always thought that Alien Grey activates when destroyed by battle, but now that you mentioned Ancient Ruins, I'm not sure about either anymore. Konami should just make up his mind about things like this. >_>

 

 

If 2 Black Bulldrago are destroyed simultaneously' date=' does 1 miss the timing?

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They activate at the same time, so no timing is missed and you can decide which is Chain Link 1 and which is Chain Link 2. And even if they didn't activate at the same time, as long as no other effect resolved after Bulldrago was destroyed, you can still chain Bulldrago's effect.

[Dark Seraphim]

I have always thought that Alien Grey activates when destroyed by battle' date=' but now that you mentioned Ancient Ruins, I'm not sure about either anymore. [b']Failnami[/b] should just make up his mind about things like this. >_>

 

Fixed and maybe this?

 

Flip Monster Effects occur when a Flip Effect Monster is flipped face-up

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After this card has been flipped face-up' date=' when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.[/quote']

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So i say yess (or at least i will say yess ontill i know the real rulingz).

 

And maybe this:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card.[/quote']

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So seeing as the monster has to be face up, i don't think being flipped face up during the damage step count seeing as the damage step is just a silly step ^^ (or at least i will say it is ontill i know the real rulingz).

[Exiro]

I have always thought that Alien Grey activates when destroyed by battle' date=' but now that you mentioned Ancient Ruins, I'm not sure about either anymore. [b']Failnami[/b] should just make up his mind about things like this. >_>

 

Fixed and maybe this?

 

Flip Monster Effects occur when a Flip Effect Monster is flipped face-up

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After this card has been flipped face-up' date=' when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.[/quote']

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So i say yess (or at least i will say yess ontill i know the real rulingz).

 

And maybe this:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card.[/quote']

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So seeing as the monster has to be face up, i don't think being flipped face up during the damage step count seeing as the damage step is just a silly step ^^ (or at least i will say it is ontill i know the real rulingz).

 

 

* If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

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Failnami rejects your logic.

[Dark Seraphim]

* If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

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Failnami rejects your logic.

 

DAMN YOU FAILNAMI!

Oke ... well anyway to get the right anwsers?

[Exiro]

* If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

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Failnami rejects your logic.

 

DAMN YOU FAILNAMI!

Oke ... well anyway to get the right anwsers?

 

I would have to say that you need to send an E-Mail to a Failnami representative, but the past has shown us that even that might not always work.

[Jericho]

Those were two different questions.

 

Can Fusion Guard be activated by sending a Synchro Monster to the Graveyard from the Extra Deck?

 

And I'm pretty sure you can activate RotA without Warrior-Type monsters in your deck, but you can't add anything and you have to let your opponent confirm.

[Necro Pheonix]

if i were to activate a royal decree and my opponent chained with a seven tools of the bandit, which effect would get negated?

[Jericho]

if i were to activate a royal decree and my opponent chained with a seven tools of the bandit' date=' which effect would get negated?

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Seven Tool is chain link 2 so it resolves before Decree. Decree is destroyed.

[Dark Seraphim]

And I'm pretty sure you can activate RotA without Warrior-Type monsters in your deck' date=' but you can't add anything and you have to let your opponent confirm.

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You cannot activate this card when you have no Level 4 or lower Warrior-Type monsters remaining in your Deck.

source.

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* If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

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Failnami rejects your logic.

 

Oke Exiro, Failnami, let's try this again (im actually injoying this xD).

 

so Alien Grey says:

FLIP: Place 1 A-Counter on 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. (If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster' date=' it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.) After this card has been [b']flipped face-up[/b], when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.

 

and the damage step says:

Flip Monster Effects occur when a Flip Effect Monster is flipped face-up

 

So going by these rules' date=' you should be able to get a card. But then Survivor says:

If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle, its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

 

Still with me? Oke bare with me for just a few minutes longer almost done. Poison Draw Frog says:

When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard (unless it was attacked while face-down and destroyed by battle)' date=' you can draw 1 card.[/quote']

 

Oke so here comes my conclusion:

 

- Poison Draw Frog specificly says that he doesn't get the card when he's face down.

 

- D.D. Survivor doesn't come back because of an induvidual ruling that says that he doesn't. And points to Poison Draw Frog that specificly says that he doesn't get the card when he's face down.

 

- In the Damage Step your monster get's flipped face up so the above mentioned card should get there effect if it wasn't for the extra line on Poison Draw Frog or the induvidual ruling on D.D Survivor.

 

- So finally Alien Grey does get the draw seeing as he doesn't has a induvidual ruling nor is this card pointed towards Poison Draw Frog.

 

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Oke that's Alien Grey, now for Code a Ancient Ruins witch says:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card. Once per turn, you can remove 2 A-Counters from anywhere on the field to Special Summon 1 "Alien" monster from your Graveyard.[/quote']

 

- Seeing as D.D. Survivors ruling is an induvidual ruling and there aren't any rulings for this card, i'm saying that it gets a counter untill Failnami creates the rulings for this card or if i happen to have missed a universal ruling considering cards like this one.

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So did i PHAIL?

 

P.S. Alien Greys rulings should be the same as Batterymen Micro-Cell, anybody know the rulings on that little guy?

[Exiro]

* If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

[/quote']

 

Failnami rejects your logic.

 

Oke Exiro, Failnami, let's try this again (im actually injoying this xD).

 

so Alien Grey says:

FLIP: Place 1 A-Counter on 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. (If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster' date=' it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.) After this card has been [b']flipped face-up[/b], when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.

 

and the damage step says:

Flip Monster Effects occur when a Flip Effect Monster is flipped face-up

 

So going by these rules' date=' you should be able to get a card. But then Survivor says:

If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle, its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

 

Still with me? Oke bare with me for just a few minutes longer almost done. Poison Draw Frog says:

When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard (unless it was attacked while face-down and destroyed by battle)' date=' you can draw 1 card.[/quote']

 

Oke so here comes my conclusion:

 

- Poison Draw Frog specificly says that he doesn't get the card when he's face down.

 

- D.D. Survivor doesn't come back because of an induvidual ruling that says that he doesn't. And points to Poison Draw Frog that specificly says that he doesn't get the card when he's face down.

 

- In the Damage Step your monster get's flipped face up so the above mentioned card should get there effect if it wasn't for the extra line on Poison Draw Frog or the induvidual ruling on D.D Survivor.

 

- So finally Alien Grey does get the draw seeing as he doesn't has a induvidual ruling nor is this card pointed towards Poison Draw Frog.

 

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Oke that's Alien Grey, now for Code a Ancient Ruins witch says:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card. Once per turn, you can remove 2 A-Counters from anywhere on the field to Special Summon 1 "Alien" monster from your Graveyard.[/quote']

 

- Seeing as D.D. Survivors ruling is an induvidual ruling and there aren't any rulings for this card, i'm saying that it gets a counter untill Failnami creates the rulings for this card or if i happen to have missed a universal ruling considering cards like this one.

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So did i PHAIL?

 

Well, this seems to be very logical, but sadly, there is........

 

 

If "Jade Knight" is attacked while face-down' date=' its effect does not activate when it is destroyed by battle.

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ISN'T THIS WONDERFUL? ALL THANKS TO FAILNAMI!

 

 

P.S. Alien Greys rulings should be the same as Batterymen Micro-Cell' date=' anybody know the rulings on that little guy?

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lolwikia and Netrep don't say anything of relevance about it.

[Dark Seraphim]

Well' date=' this seems to be very logical, but sadly, there is........

 

If "Jade Knight" is attacked while face-down, its effect does not activate when it is destroyed by battle.

 

ISN'T THIS WONDERFUL? ALL THANKS TO FAILNAMI!

 

Oke lets see here ^^.

 

Jade Knight:

When this card is in Attack Position' date=' face-up Machine-Type monsters you control with 1200 or less ATK cannot be destroyed by the effects of Trap Cards. When this [b']face-up[/b] card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Level 4 LIGHT Machine-Type monster from your Deck to your hand.

 

With the ruling:

If "Jade Knight" is attacked while face-down' date=' its effect does not activate when it is destroyed by battle.[/quote']

 

D.D. Survivor:

When this card is removed from play while face-up on your side of the field' date=' you Special Summon it during the End Phase.[/quote']

 

With the rulling:

If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate.[/quote']

 

Alien Grey:

FLIP: Place 1 A-Counter on 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. (If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster' date=' it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.) After this card has been [b']flipped face-up[/b], when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.

 

I think D.D. Survivor and Jade Knight are the same as the both state that the have to be face up to get there effects.

 

The key word i think is "Face-up" versus "Flipped Face-up".

 

For cards that state that you have to be just "Face-up" to get the effect i think that being attacked while Face-down just doesn't cut it.

 

Where as for cards that state "Flipped Face-up" to get the effect i think that being attacked while Face-down is good enough.

 

On a side note (afther heaving said that): "Code A Ancient Ruins" doesn't get the A-counter when a Face-down Alien is attacked because just like "Jade Knight" and "D.D. Survivor" it states:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card. Once per turn, you can remove 2 A-Counters from anywhere on the field to Special Summon 1 "Alien" monster from your Graveyard.[/quote']

 

So that sounds about right, what cha gotta say about that? =p (also if i'm right i like totally expect being +repped ^^).

 

P.S.

I think i deserve a snack ^^ LUNCH TIME!!!

[Exiro]

[spoiler=Too much sheet that would remove the emphasis on my question]

Well' date=' this seems to be very logical, but sadly, there is........

 

If "Jade Knight" is attacked while face-down, its effect does not activate when it is destroyed by battle.

 

ISN'T THIS WONDERFUL? ALL THANKS TO FAILNAMI!

 

Oke lets see here ^^.

 

Jade Knight:

When this card is in Attack Position' date=' face-up Machine-Type monsters you control with 1200 or less ATK cannot be destroyed by the effects of Trap Cards. When this [b']face-up[/b] card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Level 4 LIGHT Machine-Type monster from your Deck to your hand.

 

With the ruling:

If "Jade Knight" is attacked while face-down' date=' its effect does not activate when it is destroyed by battle.[/quote']

 

D.D. Survivor:

When this card is removed from play while face-up on your side of the field' date=' you Special Summon it during the End Phase.[/quote']

 

With the rulling:

If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D.D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed battle' date=' its effect will not activate. "D.D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate.[/quote']

 

Alien Grey:

FLIP: Place 1 A-Counter on 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. (If a monster with an A-Counter battles an "Alien" monster' date=' it loses 300 ATK and DEF for each A-Counter during damage calculation only.) After this card has been [b']flipped face-up[/b], when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card.

 

I think D.D. Survivor and Jade Knight are the same as the both state that the have to be face up to get there effects.

 

The key word i think is "Face-up" versus "Flipped Face-up".

 

For cards that state that you have to be just "Face-up" to get the effect i think that being attacked while Face-down just doesn't cut it.

 

Where as for cards that state "Flipped Face-up" to get the effect i think that being attacked while Face-down is good enough.

 

On a side note (afther heaving said that): "Code A Ancient Ruins" doesn't get the A-counter when a Face-down Alien is attacked because just like "Jade Knight" and "D.D. Survivor" it states:

Each time a face-up "Alien" monster(s) is destroyed' date=' place 1 A-Counter on this card. Once per turn, you can remove 2 A-Counters from anywhere on the field to Special Summon 1 "Alien" monster from your Graveyard.[/quote']

 

So that sounds about right, what cha gotta say about that? =p (also if i'm right i like totally expect being +repped ^^).

 

P.S.

I think i deserve a snack ^^ LUNCH TIME!!!

 

Well, you've convinced me. Good job. Funny how you, yourself, were the one to answer your own question.

 

 

 

 

If my opponent controls nothing but a face-down LaDD and I attack with with Stardust Dragon, can I tribute Stardust Dragon to negate the activation of LaDD's effect that nukes his own field and Special Summons a monster from his Graveyard?

[Dark Seraphim]

Well' date=' you've convinced me. Good job. Funny how you, yourself, were the one to answer your own question.

 

If my opponent controls nothing but a face-down LaDD and I attack with with Stardust Dragon, can I tribute Stardust Dragon to negate the activation of LaDD's effect that nukes his own field and Special Summons a monster from his Graveyard?

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First off thanks and yeah i do OWN if i put in the effort Xd jk.

 

For your question i believe:

 

"Stardust Dragon's" first effect cannot be chained to an effect that may or may not destroy card(s) on the field' date=' like "Barrel Dragon" or "Snipe Hunter".[/quote']

 

LaDD destroys his own field, but Stardust can't negate that because if your opponent only had LaDD on the field LaDD doesn't destroy anything.

 

P.S. I should check the thread more often ... it's actually kinda fun ^^.

 

Ohw and also ... WHERES MY +REP!!!! =p

[Exiro]

For your question i believe:

 

"Stardust Dragon's" first effect cannot be chained to an effect that may or may not destroy card(s) on the field' date=' like "Barrel Dragon" or "Snipe Hunter".[/quote']

 

LaDD destroys his own field, but Stardust can't negate that because if your opponent only had LaDD on the field LaDD doesn't destroy anything.

 

The Snipe Hunter ruling is irrelevant, because we know, at the time of activation, whether he will destroy anything or not. My point, however, is that LaDD is sure to activate an effect that states that it destroys. it's the very same effect that summons a monster from his Graveyard. One doesn't come without the other. So what I'm asking is this: "Can Stardust Dragon negate the activation of an effect that destroys no cards on the field?"

 

Yes, the way I worded it, it sounds very unreasonable, but that doesn't matter in YGO. For example, take a look at the Shrink rulings.

 

 

P.S. I should check the thread more often ... it's actually kinda fun ^^.

 

Oh' date=' you should. I felt somewhat alone here, answering the most questions by far with Crabby rarely around these days. And the OP has been gone for a while now, let alone the fact that he didn't answer here for an even longer time.

 

 

Ohw and also ... WHERES MY +REP!!!! =p

 

I thought I taw a puddy cad give you a +rep.

I did, I did, taw a puddy cad give you a +rep.

[Dark Seraphim]

For your question i believe:

 

"Stardust Dragon's" first effect cannot be chained to an effect that may or may not destroy card(s) on the field' date=' like "Barrel Dragon" or "Snipe Hunter".[/quote']

 

LaDD destroys his own field, but Stardust can't negate that because if your opponent only had LaDD on the field LaDD doesn't destroy anything.

 

The Snipe Hunter ruling is irrelevant, because we know, at the time of activation, whether he will destroy anything or not. My point, however, is that LaDD is sure to activate an effect that states that it destroys. it's the very same effect that summons a monster from his Graveyard. One doesn't come without the other. So what I'm asking is this: "Can Stardust Dragon negate the activation of an effect that destroys no cards on the field?"

 

I say no because Stardust's effect clearly states:

 

1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters

You can Tribute this card to negate the activation of a Spell Card' date=' Trap Card, or Effect Monster's effect [b']that destroys a card(s) on the field, and destroy that card[/b]. If you negate an effect this way, you can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard during the End Phase.

 

And seeing as LaDD wouldn't have any cards on the field Stardust can't negate it, even though LaDD would still ''destroy''.

 

At least thats what i think.

 

[spoiler=Shrink Rulingz]Yes, the way I worded it, it sounds very unreasonable, but that doesn't matter in YGO. For example, take a look at the Shrink rulings.

 

If “Shrink” affects a monster whose original ATK is set by its effect when it is Summoned' date=' like “Maju Garzett”, “Chimeratech Overdragon” or “Megarock Dragon”, [b']that monster’s ATK will become 0, and remain 0 even after the effect of “Shrink” wears off[/b].

 

I LOLed xD

 

 

[spoiler=Off Topic]

Oh' date=' you should. I felt somewhat alone here, answering the most questions by far with Crabby rarely around these days. And the OP has been gone for a while now, let alone the fact that he didn't answer here for an even longer time.[/quote']

 

I will if you'll have me ^^.

 

Ohw and also ... WHERES MY +REP!!!! =p

I thought I taw a puddy cad give you a +rep.

I did' date=' I [i']did[/i], taw a puddy cad give you a +rep.

lolz ke ... i'll shut up from now on xD (even though it was just a jk =p).

 

 

 

P.S. Those spoiler things really save up a lot of room ^^.

[Exiro]

For your question i believe:

 

"Stardust Dragon's" first effect cannot be chained to an effect that may or may not destroy card(s) on the field' date=' like "Barrel Dragon" or "Snipe Hunter".[/quote']

 

LaDD destroys his own field, but Stardust can't negate that because if your opponent only had LaDD on the field LaDD doesn't destroy anything.

 

The Snipe Hunter ruling is irrelevant, because we know, at the time of activation, whether he will destroy anything or not. My point, however, is that LaDD is sure to activate an effect that states that it destroys. it's the very same effect that summons a monster from his Graveyard. One doesn't come without the other. So what I'm asking is this: "Can Stardust Dragon negate the activation of an effect that destroys no cards on the field?"

 

-[has yet to come]

 

Uh oh... :--o

[Dark Seraphim]

Uh oh... :--o

 

Gimme a break, i'm currently at work so that comes first =d.