Skulblaka98 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Is activating Advanced Heraldry Art possible while Shaddoll Winda or something with a similar effect is face-up? You would need to be able to SS twice right? The first part of Advanced Art to bring back the 2 monsters, then the Xyz? If that were the case, you shouldn't be able to activate it at all right? You cannot activate Advanced Heraldry Art whilst El Shaddoll Winda is applying its effect. So, if I synchro summon fire fist horse prince using fire fist caribou, can I create the order of the chain as I choose, or is it mandatory caribou 1, prince 2? You may choose which effect activates first. Both effects are optional, and both are triggered by the same event, the successful Synchro Summon. in OCG you can choose the chain order due to both being optional and activates at the same time, in TCG caribou must be link 1 i think , since its sent to graveyard first before horse prince is synchro summoned, caribou met the condition first and must be first in chain link Incorrect. Both effects meet their trigger at the same time. Caribou is not triggered until the summon is successful; it is not sent for a Synchro Summon until this point. So I just dueled someone that used Gravekeeper's Servant and Dimensional Fissure to lock me down. He said that I couldn't attack, because Gravekeeper's Servant makes me send a card to the Graveyard to attack, but Dimensional Fissure banishes all monsters, and I can't know what is on the top of my deck. How does that combo make any sense? Gravekeeper's Servant places a cost on declaring an attack. In order to pay a cost, it must be paid verbatim. This means the card must be sent to the Graveyard. Since you do not know if you will be able to pay the cost, you cannot declare an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Incorrect. Both effects meet their trigger at the same time. Caribou is not triggered until the summon is successful; it is not sent for a Synchro Summon until this point. ok get it, i thought it will be the same than sangan+monarch in tcg, but since it specifically say for synchro summon, it only trigger when the summon is sucessfull question: Is this a legal play?Opponent declare a direct attack, i activate Rainbow Kuriboh in my Graveyard, then Chain Battle Fader in my hand.... you can do it in ygopro, but i'm not sure if its correct ruling-wise, because fader is trigger effect that must respond directly in response for attack (like utopia), so i think it must be chain link 1 responding directly for attack, and battle fader ruling's say you cant use it if you activate mirror force first also if you reverse the chain order would it become legal? or the same rule also apply to rainbow kuriboh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 question: Is this a legal play?Opponent declare a direct attack, i activate Rainbow Kuriboh in my Graveyard, then Chain Battle Fader in my hand.... you can do it in ygopro, but i'm not sure if its correct ruling-wise, because fader is trigger effect that must respond directly in response for attack (like utopia), so i think it must be chain link 1 responding directly for attack, and battle fader ruling's say you cant use it if you activate mirror force first also if you reverse the chain order would it become legal? or the same rule also apply to rainbow kuriboh?No, you shouldn't be able to, as by this ruling:http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Green_Baboon,_Defender_of_the_Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil cucumber Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Upon testing Burgesstomas on Dev/Ygopro, there were sometimes when I couldn't chain their effs in the grave to a trap activated on my field, because the opponent was asked before me for quick eff responses. Something like this happened 1) I activate Jar of Greed 2) My opponent chains Maxx C 3) I couldnt chain the Burgess in the grave anymore because the last eff added to the chain link isnt a Trap's. So...is that actually a trick to prevent your opp's burgess from activating in the grave, or is Ygopro just bad at deciding which player has the priority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Upon testing Burgesstomas on Dev/Ygopro, there were sometimes when I couldn't chain their effs in the grave to a trap activated on my field, because the opponent was asked before me for quick eff responses. Something like this happened 1) I activate Jar of Greed 2) My opponent chains Maxx C 3) I couldnt chain the Burgess in the grave anymore because the last eff added to the chain link isnt a Trap's. So...is that actually a trick to prevent your opp's burgess from activating in the grave, or is Ygopro just bad at deciding which player has the priority?Your opponent always gets priority after you activate a card or do an action, you can't just keep on Chaining Trap Cards, your opponent may use something before that. As such, if they Chain something, it's no longer the timing anymore. More info here:http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/fasteffects_timing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If your opponent has to, say, check for spells in your hand, when revealing cards, can you just show them the border of the card without revealing anything else about the card, or do you have to reveal the whole card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If your opponent has to, say, check for spells in your hand, when revealing cards, can you just show them the border of the card without revealing anything else about the card, or do you have to reveal the whole card? They can look at the entirety of the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 No, you shouldn't be able to, as by this ruling:http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Green_Baboon,_Defender_of_the_Forest that rulings seems to fit the scenario, but i just checked rainbow kuriboh ruling page and found contradiction You can only activate each "●" effect of "Rainbow Kuriboh" once per turn. (Even if you have multiple copies of "Rainbow Kuriboh" in your hand or Graveyard.) If you haven't already activated one of the "●" effects in that turn, when an opponent's monster declares a direct attack, the effects of the copies of "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the hand and Graveyard can be activated in a chain. If you do, the "You can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard." effect of the "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the Graveyard will be Chain Link 1 and the "equip this card from your hand to that target." effect of the "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the hand will be Chain Link 2.[2] seems you can chain both effect to each other, despite both being trigger effect that trigger on same action (direct attack declaration)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 that rulings seems to fit the scenario, but i just checked rainbow kuriboh ruling page and found contradiction You can only activate each "●" effect of "Rainbow Kuriboh" once per turn. (Even if you have multiple copies of "Rainbow Kuriboh" in your hand or Graveyard.) If you haven't already activated one of the "●" effects in that turn, when an opponent's monster declares a direct attack, the effects of the copies of "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the hand and Graveyard can be activated in a chain. If you do, the "You can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard." effect of the "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the Graveyard will be Chain Link 1 and the "equip this card from your hand to that target." effect of the "Rainbow Kuriboh" in the hand will be Chain Link 2.[2] seems you can chain both effect to each other, despite both being trigger effect that trigger on same action (direct attack declaration)...May be an OCG only thing, since the other ruling is TCG. Skulblaka should probably have an answer to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulblaka98 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 question: Is this a legal play?Opponent declare a direct attack, i activate Rainbow Kuriboh in my Graveyard, then Chain Battle Fader in my hand.... you can do it in ygopro, but i'm not sure if its correct ruling-wise, because fader is trigger effect that must respond directly in response for attack (like utopia), so i think it must be chain link 1 responding directly for attack, and battle fader ruling's say you cant use it if you activate mirror force first also if you reverse the chain order would it become legal? or the same rule also apply to rainbow kuriboh? Rainbow Kuriboh's effects are also trigger effects. If you wish to activate both the effect of Battle Fader and one of the effects of Rainbow Kuriboh, you build the chain in accordance with SEGOC. No, you shouldn't be able to, as by this ruling:http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Green_Baboon,_Defender_of_the_Forest Not relevant. Rainbow Kuriboh doesn't special summon when it activates, or could activate, in the hand. Upon testing Burgesstomas on Dev/Ygopro, there were sometimes when I couldn't chain their effs in the grave to a trap activated on my field, because the opponent was asked before me for quick eff responses. Something like this happened 1) I activate Jar of Greed 2) My opponent chains Maxx C 3) I couldnt chain the Burgess in the grave anymore because the last eff added to the chain link isnt a Trap's. So...is that actually a trick to prevent your opp's burgess from activating in the grave, or is Ygopro just bad at deciding which player has the priority? "When a Trap Card on the field is activated while this card is in your Graveyard:" The activation of a Trap Card is an action that has a Spell Speed. This means it is only "when" that action occurs in the very next chain link, so in your scenario, it is only "when a Trap Card...is activated" at CL2. If your opponent has to, say, check for spells in your hand, when revealing cards, can you just show them the border of the card without revealing anything else about the card, or do you have to reveal the whole card? F. Card/Hand Verification While resolving an effect that asks for a card in the hand to be verified - if all legal copies of that specific card can be accounted for, (Public Knowledge areas, etc), the hand does not need to be revealed; unless an effect specifically allows the Duelist to do so. In the case where an effect requires the hand to be revealed, the opponent may read every card in the hand. This verification must be done in a timely manner so as to not hold up the current Duel. Cards that are searched for via an effect that requires specific verification, such as card type or statistic, must be shown to the opponent in their entirety. The opponent may read the retrieved card. This verification must be done in a timely manner as to not hold up the current Duel. Examples A Duelist activates Mind Crush and names a Limited card. The opponent’s only legal copy of the card is in the Graveyard. The Duelist does not get toverify the opponent’s hand. Duelist A activates Trap Dustshoot, which allows him to view his opponent’s hand. Duelist A may read the information on the cards in his opponent’s hand, even the non-Monster Cards. While resolving the effect of Sangan, the opponent may read all of the information on the Monster Card retrieved via the search effect. http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/penalty_guide/Yu-Gi-Oh!%20Tournament%20Policy%20v1.4%202013November14.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Rainbow Kuriboh's effects are also trigger effects. If you wish to activate both the effect of Battle Fader and one of the effects of Rainbow Kuriboh, you build the chain in accordance with SEGOC. Not relevant. Rainbow Kuriboh doesn't special summon when it activates, or could activate, in the hand.So what you're saying is that it only matters if they Special Summon? Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hm... My opponent attacks me with his Normal Summoned Yosenju level 4. I stop his attack and set it with Ghostrick Jackfrost. Does the opponent still get the bounce with the Yosenju because it was already summoned? No right? I figured it would need to stay face up to resolve or something in that nature, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hm... My opponent attacks me with his Normal Summoned Yosenju level 4. I stop his attack and set it with Ghostrick Jackfrost. Does the opponent still get the bounce with the Yosenju because it was already summoned? No right? I figured it would need to stay face up to resolve or something in that nature, right?Face-down monsters can't activate their effects. If, however, it was later flipped face-up somehow, you could activate the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Wavering eyes works with Ariadne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÆƵ– Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Wavering eyes works with Ariadne?It has an if eff, not a when eff, so yes. it's like a counter trap flame mascot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Ariadne the Absolver allow you to not pay LP/Discard cost for counter trapbut you still need to met the requirement for the cost in the first place right? , likehaving LP equal/higher the needed cost/1 card in hand for discard EDIT: Nevermind i found out on jp wiki that the player doesnt need to met the cost requirementfor both LP and discrd, darn bkss..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What's the situation with Ultimate Baseball Kid in Igknights? I've seen a lot of people talk about playing the card, but it looks like its burn effect would directly contradict the mechanic that forces Pendulums to go to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What's the situation with Ultimate Baseball Kid in Igknights? I've seen a lot of people talk about playing the card, but it looks like its burn effect would directly contradict the mechanic that forces Pendulums to go to the Graveyard.I'm pretty sure it doesn't work with pendulums since they can't hit the graveyard like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 If a Psyframe gear effects is activated and the opponent tries to negate it (or chain something else), can an appropiatte Psyframe gear monster effect be chained to the opponents card? If it can will both gears resolve and summon? (resulting in 2 gears with 2 divers on the field) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 What's the situation with Ultimate Baseball Kid in Igknights? I've seen a lot of people talk about playing the card, but it looks like its burn effect would directly contradict the mechanic that forces Pendulums to go to the Graveyard.You can't send Pendulums to the Graveyard from the field as a cost, so you can't use its effect with them. If a Psyframe gear effects is activated and the opponent tries to negate it (or chain something else), can an appropiatte Psyframe gear monster effect be chained to the opponents card? If it can will both gears resolve and summon? (resulting in 2 gears with 2 divers on the field)You can, as long as you have open spaces to Summon them in and enough Drivers to Summon that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does Reborn Tengu get its effect if used as synchro material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan LeFlay Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does Reborn Tengu get its effect if used as synchro material? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 do mandatory effect still activates even if the condition arent correct? like when M-Hero acid is summoned and there's no spell/trap on opponent field, would acid effect activate so card like CDI can negate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 do mandatory effect still activates even if the condition arent correct? like when M-Hero acid is summoned and there's no spell/trap on opponent field, would acid effect activate so card like CDI can negate it?Mandatory effects activate, even if they can't resolve, only if they're being prevented by something like Majesty's Fiend will they not activate. Ruling:"Once per Chain, during either player's turn, when a Spell Card, Trap Card, or monster effect is activated: This card loses exactly 500 ATK and DEF and that activation is negated." effect will be activated even if "Light and Darkness Dragon" has less than 500 ATK and DEF. However, since it cannot lose 500 ATK and DEF, the effect is not applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 My opponent summons Constellar Leonis. I activate Fiendish Chain in response and target it. My opponent says that he can still use the normal summon because it was already activated. Is this the case? In the same duel, my opponent summons Constellar Sombre and I activate Compulsory Evacuation Device and target it. My opponent still activates its effect saying that it gets priority. I thought turn priority wasn't a thing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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