goodfusion Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I activate Raigeki, and my opponent chains Number 81 Superdreadnaught's effect, targeting itself. I chain Book of Moon, targeting that Number 81. Is it still destroyed by the effect of Raigeki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Can "FLIP:" miss timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I activate Raigeki, and my opponent chains Number 81 Superdreadnaught's effect, targeting itself. I chain Book of Moon, targeting that Number 81. Is it still destroyed by the effect of Raigeki?Number 81 says "it" in the resolution, so even if it becomes face-down, it's still affected, so it won't be destroyed. Can "FLIP:" miss timing?Only "when...you can" miss timing, and all the Flip effects that say that mandatory, so no, none of them can do that, at least so far (and I doubt it will ever happen, since that is kind of a strange are to discuss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Do the Rank-Up-Magics allow me to ignore summoning conditions(such as material types, attributes, and amount of materials)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Do the Rank-Up-Magics allow me to ignore summoning conditions(such as material types, attributes, and amount of materials)? Yes. Rank-Up Magics count the Summon as a proper Xyz Summon, provided you are fulfilling the requirements and restrictions of the Rank-Ups, such as Barian's Force upgrading monsters to a Number C or CXyz of the same Type and Attribute, plus a Rank higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why do some effects that say "You can only use the effect of *card name* once per turn." while others have "...and only once that turn." after that? What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why do some effects that say "You can only use the effect of *card name* once per turn." while others have "...and only once that turn." after that? What's the difference? I think the second version is most often seen with cards that have two different effects, and that only one of those effects total can be used. The first version is typically seen by cards with either one effect period (Rescue Rabbit), or only one effect of two+ has a hard OPT clause (usually worded "this effect of X can only be used once per turn"). For example of the second version, Edge Imp Chain. It can search an Edge Imp Chain when it attacks. And when it's sent to the Graveyard, you can search a Frightfur card. Only one Edge Imp Chain effect can be used a turn, and only once that turn. So if you use the "Search Edge Imp Chain" effect, you cannot use the "When sent to Graveyard" effect in the same turn, even though it's a separate effect. Because only one effect of Chain can be used a turn. And similarly, the effect you use can only be used once that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why do some effects that say "You can only use the effect of *card name* once per turn." while others have "...and only once that turn." after that? What's the difference? I'll try my hand at explaining this, with a few more examples... If the above post explains it fine, then probably skip over this one, lest I just confuse you again. See Satellarknight Deneb for an example of a hard OPT clause on a single effect. [FIRST EFFECT] If this card is Summoned: You can add 1 "tellarknight" monster from your Deck to your hand, except "Satellarknight Deneb". You can only use this effect of "Satellarknight Deneb" once per turn. She is an example of a hard OPT clause for a single effect, because it says, "You can only use this effect of "x" once per turn." --- See El Shaddoll Shekhinaga for an example of a hard OPT clause on a single effect (same as above), in the same card as another effect that is not hard (or soft) OPT. Must first be Fusion Summoned. [FIRST EFFECT] During either player's turn, when a Special Summoned monster activates its effect while you have a "Shaddoll" card in your hand: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that monster, then send 1 "Shaddoll" card from your hand to the Graveyard. You can only use this effect of "El Shaddoll Shekhinaga" once per turn. [sECOND EFFECT] If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can target 1 "Shaddoll" Spell/Trap Card in your Graveyard; add it to your hand. The first effect, "During either player's turn, when a Special Summoned monster activates its effect ..." can only be used once per turn. This is because it says "You can only use this effect of "x" once per turn." The second effect, "If this card is sent to the Graveyard ..." can be used as many times per turn as possible. --- See Frightfur Factory for an example of a hard OPT clause that applies to multiple effects. [FIRST EFFECT] You can banish 1 "Polymerization" Spell Card or "Fusion" Spell Card from your Graveyard, except "Diffusion Wave-Motion"; Fusion Summon 1 "Frightfur" Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or your side of the field as Fusion Materials. [sECOND EFFECT] If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can target 1 of your banished "Frightfur Fusion"; add it to your hand. You can only use each effect of "Frightfur Factory" once per turn. It is an example of a hard OPT clause that applies to multiple effects because it says, "You can only use each effect of "x" once per turn." Both the first effect ("You can banish …") and the second effect ("If this card is sent to the Graveyard …") can only be used once per turn. This is because the condition applies to both effects. Note: This does not stop you from using both effects during the same turn. --- See Exa, Enforcer of the Nekroz for an example of a condition that allows only 1 effect of the card to be activated per turn (either the first effect or the second effect in the case of Exa), on top of a hard OPT clause that applies to multiple effects. [FIRST EFFECT] If this card is Tributed by a card effect: You can add 1 Dragon-Type "Nekroz" Ritual Monster from your Deck to your hand. [sECOND EFFECT] If this card is banished: You can target 1 of your banished "Nekroz" monsters, except this card; Special Summon that monster. You can only use 1 "Exa, Enforcer of the Nekroz" effect per turn, and only once that turn. Each turn, you can either activate the first effect ("If this card is Tributed by a card effect ...") or the second effect ("If this card is banished ..."), because it says, "You can only use 1 "x" effect per turn." The first effect, "If this card is Tributed by a card effect ..." can only be used once per turn, because "and only once that turn" is applied to every effect, including this one. Remember: You cannot use the second effect during the same turn you use this effect. The second effect, "If this card is banished ..." can only be used once per turn, because "and only once that turn" is applied to every effect, including this one. Remember: You cannot use the first effect during the same turn you use this effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Is the discard for Dark Core a cost? The version I have has a comma instead of a semi-colon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Is the discard for Dark Core a cost? The version I have has a comma instead of a semi-colon.Discarding for Dark Core is a cost. It has a semicolon in its post-PSCT card text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 If you activate Reasoning, your opponent responds with Retaliating "C", then you Special Summon Chaos Hunter with Reasoning, will the remaining cards be sent to the Graveyard or banished? I would believe so, as "also" means that it happens simultaneously, but I am not completely sure. Relevant Effects:Chaos Hunter:Your opponent cannot banish cards. Retaliating "C":During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a Spell Card that includes an effect that Special Summons a monster(s): You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If Summoned this way, while this card is face-up on the field, any card sent to the Graveyard is banished instead. Reasoning:Your opponent declares a monster Level. Excavate cards from the top of your Deck until you excavate a monster that can be Normal Summoned/Set. If that monster is the same Level as the one declared by your opponent, send all excavated cards to the Graveyard. If not, Special Summon the excavated monster, also send the remaining cards to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Ninjitsu Art of Super Transformation v.s MsT I activate Ninjitsu and target me and my opponent's monsters and he chains MsT. What's the outcome? I always thought it would hit the trap and both monsters lived. Can someone actually explain the steps and why and how it doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Ninjitsu Art of Super Transformation v.s MsT I activate Ninjitsu and target me and my opponent's monsters and he chains MsT. What's the outcome? I always thought it would hit the trap and both monsters lived. Can someone actually explain the steps and why and how it doesn't work? The Trap is destroyed and both monsters live.Super Transformation sends your Ninja and the opponent's monster as part of the effect, it's not a cost/activation condition, and as a Continuous Trap it must remain on the field to resolve its effects properly. If MST is chained to its activation, then it leaves the field before applying and resolving its effect. To put an example, its similar to how you don't get a search from Tenki when someone chains MST to its activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 If you activate Reasoning, your opponent responds with Retaliating "C", then you Special Summon Chaos Hunter with Reasoning, will the remaining cards be sent to the Graveyard or banished? I would believe so, as "also" means that it happens simultaneously, but I am not completely sure. Relevant Effects:Chaos Hunter:Your opponent cannot banish cards. Retaliating "C":During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a Spell Card that includes an effect that Special Summons a monster(s): You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If Summoned this way, while this card is face-up on the field, any card sent to the Graveyard is banished instead. Reasoning:Your opponent declares a monster Level. Excavate cards from the top of your Deck until you excavate a monster that can be Normal Summoned/Set. If that monster is the same Level as the one declared by your opponent, send all excavated cards to the Graveyard. If not, Special Summon the excavated monster, also send the remaining cards to the Graveyard. That's right. Since Reasoning says "also", the Summon and sending occur simultaneously. As such, Chaos Hunter's effect will not apply, because it is not (already) on the Field when cards would be sent. The excavated cards will be banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 If Abyss Dweller has activated its effect, can you still summon Grapha with its summoning condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 If Abyss Dweller has activated its effect, can you still summon Grapha with its summoning condition?i'd say no. as it is an effect that activates in the grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 i'd say no. as it is an effect that activates in the graveIt is not an effect. It is a condition. It can still be summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulblaka98 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 That's right. Since Reasoning says "also", the Summon and sending occur simultaneously. As such, Chaos Hunter's effect will not apply, because it is not (already) on the Field when cards would be sent. The excavated cards will be banished. Close. Chaos Hunter is on the field when you send the cards to the Graveyard; however, its effect cannot begin to apply between actions considered simultaneous. If Abyss Dweller has activated its effect, can you still summon Grapha with its summoning condition? Grapha is written in Problem Solving Card Text. Cards written in PSCT tell you if their effects activate or not. BIG TIP: If there’s a colon or semicolon in the text, that always means an effect that starts a chain. If there is no colon or semicolon, the effect does NOT start a chain and cannot be chained to. https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=2947 Please give all 7 PSCT articles a read. i'd say no. as it is an effect that activates in the grave Incorrect. Please review the PSCT articles; the card's text tells you it does not activate. It is not an effect. It is a condition. It can still be summoned. It is an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 It is not an effect. It is a condition. It can still be summoned.It is an effect that can be negated by Dark Ruler Ha Des. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Is it possible to flip face-down banished cards face-up? I have an idea for Toon support for the banishing face-down part in Toon Kingdom's effect, but I need to know if it is first possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Is it possible to flip face-down banished cards face-up? I have an idea for Toon support for the banishing face-down part in Toon Kingdom's effect, but I need to know if it is first possible.As of now, no. The only way is generically returning them to the deck then re banishing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Is it possible to flip face-down banished cards face-up? I have an idea for Toon support for the banishing face-down part in Toon Kingdom's effect, but I need to know if it is first possible.Returning them to the Graveyard would make them become face-up again, and of course adding to the hand or putting them back in the Deck would make you able to re-use them. Also, this is not really a ruling question, since you are asking about something that has no rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 My opponent controls no monsters. I Special Summon Gilasaurus with its own effect, and my opponent Special Summons a monster from their Graveyard. Can I activate Inferno Reckless Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Can Forbidden Lance make a monster unaffected by Skill Drain for one turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 My opponent controls no monsters. I Special Summon Gilasaurus with its own effect, and my opponent Special Summons a monster from their Graveyard. Can I activate Inferno Reckless Summon? No. The effect that Special Summons from the opponent's Graveyard is a Trigger Effect that occurs upon Gilasaurus' Summon. After this effect resolves, it is no longer the correct timing to use Inferno Reckless Summon. Can Forbidden Lance make a monster unaffected by Skill Drain for one turn? Yes. Forbidden Lance makes the targeted monster unaffected by the effects of Spells/Traps, so it will become unaffected by Skill Drain's Continuous Effect. Its effect will no longer be negated for the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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