Manjoume Thunder Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 What are the best types of decks and field spells to use with each separate Earthbound Immortal? Also' date=' what are some good strategies and field spells that work well with all the immortals?[/quote'] http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-151722.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 It seems like there's three different popular ideas on what field spell to use: Zombie World: Makes summoning them from grave easy.Mausoleum: Summon them in one turn easy.Endymion: Pretty much indestructible, so the opponent can't dispose of them with a simple MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 <3 cliff. Its Mausoleum. No 2 ways about it. You tech in another field spell if its entirely nessecary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exyst Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 are proxies cards which have been printed off and glued/sleeved? and if so, how hard are they USUALLY to detect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 All proxies mean is that it's a placeholder for a card you don't have. It could be anything from a print out to a little slip of paper with the name written on it. If it's a glued print out the difference should be extremely obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Ok... n00b question, but what are the best Synchros up-to-date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Brionac, Goyo, Stardust, TRA, RDA, the list is logn, but those are what we call "Generic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 1) When the opponent activates "Monster Reborn", do they declare a target before or after the window of Counter Traps? 2) You can set a Non-Quick Play Spell and use it during the same turn, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Ok... n00b question' date=' but what are the best Synchros up-to-date?[/quote'] Thought Ruler ArchfiendStardust DragonRed Dragon ArchfiendColossal FighterBlack Rose DragonGoyo GuardianGaia Knight, the Force of EarthMagical AndroidAlly of Justice - CatastorArmory Arm Becasue they are all generic. 1) When the opponent activates "Monster Reborn"' date=' do they declare a target before or after the window of Counter Traps?[/quote'] They choose a target before the Counter Trap.How else do you think D.D. Crow can counter Monster Reborn? 2) You can set a Non-Quick Play Spell and use it during the same turn' date=' correct?[/quote'] Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 1) When the opponent activates "Monster Reborn"' date=' do they declare a target before or after the window of Counter Traps?[/quote'] They choose a target before the Counter Trap.How else do you think D.D. Crow can counter Monster Reborn? D.D. Crow = Counter Trap?But yeah, it's true. Activating a card, paying the cost and declaring a target all happen at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningRave Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 No, what he means is that you can send D.D. Crow to the Graveyard and removed the selected monster before it gets reborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 No' date=' what he means is that you can send D.D. Crow to the Graveyard and removed the selected monster before it gets reborn.[/quote'] What he's saying is that you can Crow the target of MR because you know what the target of MR is at the time that you decide to Crow the target of MR. This is logical, but it could have been different with Counter Traps, because they are Spell Speed three, which makes the line "How else do you think D.D. Crow can counter Monster Reborn?" irrelevant. That's what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningRave Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Not really irrelevant but at the same time I agree.. It was just an prime example of why you have to declare a monster when you activate Monster Reborn. Seeing how D.D. Crow is a slower spell speed than a counter trap. Though with counter traps it would not matter what you declare since the counter trap will be negating the activation of the MR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Though with counter traps it would not matter what you declare since the counter trap will be negating the activation of the MR. It matters a lot for the Counter Trap player to decide whether or not he should activate the Counter Trap at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? No. Same as trying to use Pachycephalo in a Synchro Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? No. Same as trying to use Pachycephalo in a Synchro Summon. Why can't you?? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? No. Same as trying to use Pachycephalo in a Synchro Summon. Why can't you?? =/ Because the rulings state that you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? No. Same as trying to use Pachycephalo in a Synchro Summon. Why can't you?? =/ Because the rulings state that you can't. >.< I was thinking Magna Drago rather than Koa'ki Meiru... =/ I got it now ;) I love this thread xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningRave Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 It matters a lot for the Counter Trap player to decide whether or not he should activate the Counter Trap at that time.I am not talking about the counter trap player. Your talking about if the counter trap player should or should not activate depending on what monster is selected. I am talking about the counter trap already activated so it would not matter what was designated as the target of MR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can I remove Drago to SS REDRUM? No. Same as trying to use Pachycephalo in a Synchro Summon. Why can't you?? =/ Because the rulings state that you can't. >.< I was thinking Magna Drago rather than Koa'ki Meiru... =/ I got it now ;) I love this thread xD Lulz....But why the hell wouldn't you be able to remove Magna Drago for REDMD? It matters a lot for the Counter Trap player to decide whether or not he should activate the Counter Trap at that time.I am not talking about the counter trap player. Your talking about if the counter trap player should or should not activate depending on what monster is selected. I am talking about the counter trap already activated so it would not matter what was designated as the target of MR. Whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 does the field spell anchient forests second effect target at the end of the bphase??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolmaster5555 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Can I use a card (Monster Reborn' date=' Premature, Call, etc) to special summon Black Luster Envoy of the Beginning from the graveyard as long as I also remove 1 light and 1 dark monster from my graveyard as well? (assuming it has already been properly special summoned from my hand) or is it just a one time special summon from the hand? Also, if it hasn't been special summoned properly, and is just dumped to the graveyard with Card Trooper, etc, can I special summon it from the graveyard with Premature/Call, etc, as long as I remove a light and dark? Or, is there no removal of light and dark required when special summoning it from the graveyard?[/quote'] Rules about semi-nomis:They say: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned byIn order to summon them from the Graveyard, they must have been summoned the way they say first. After that you can Special Summon them from the Graveyard by other effects. When they are special summoned from the graveyard, their cost doesn't have to be paid again. BLS-EotB is a semi-nomi. ^ You cannt special sumnmon them from the graveyard. only from hand; That's only true with nomi's. BLS-EotB' date=' CED,EotE, and Chaos Sorcerer are all semi-nomis.[/quote'] Wait this isn't making any sense...? Someone else also said "Nomis says "this card cannot be Special Summoned, except by ....."Semi nomis says "this card can only be special summoned by". Nomis can only be summoned by its own effect. " So what IS a Nomi and a Semi-Nomi? Also I want to bring up that Chaos Emperor says "This card cannot be normal summoned or set. This card can only be special summoned by removing blah blah..." Sp I'm assuming it cannot be brought back with a card like Call ever even if it HAS been summoned with a light and dark? And I noticed Black luster says "This card can only be special summoned by removing blah blah..." So can he be normal summoned/set? It doesn't say "This card cannot be normal summoned or set" on the card at all. And again, original question. What's the rulings on special summoning him from the graveyard? So is Black luster also a semi-nomi because of the "can only be special summoned" thing even though it lacks the "This card cannot be normal summoned or set" part? Sorry for the n00bness but I've never heard the terms Nomi/Semi-nomi before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 My questions of today are: Can you summon "Armityle the Chaos Phantom" with "Future Fusion" and Can I active "Future Fusion" to send Materials for "Armityle the Chaos Phantom" to grave? If yes, and "Armityle" can't be summoned (depending on the 1st question) what happens to the "Fusion"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Can I use a card (Monster Reborn' date=' Premature, Call, etc) to special summon Black Luster Envoy of the Beginning from the graveyard as long as I also remove 1 light and 1 dark monster from my graveyard as well? (assuming it has already been properly special summoned from my hand) or is it just a one time special summon from the hand? Also, if it hasn't been special summoned properly, and is just dumped to the graveyard with Card Trooper, etc, can I special summon it from the graveyard with Premature/Call, etc, as long as I remove a light and dark? Or, is there no removal of light and dark required when special summoning it from the graveyard?[/quote'] Rules about semi-nomis:They say: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned byIn order to summon them from the Graveyard, they must have been summoned the way they say first. After that you can Special Summon them from the Graveyard by other effects. When they are special summoned from the graveyard, their cost doesn't have to be paid again. BLS-EotB is a semi-nomi. ^ You cannt special sumnmon them from the graveyard. only from hand; That's only true with nomi's. BLS-EotB' date=' CED,EotE, and Chaos Sorcerer are all semi-nomis.[/quote'] Wait this isn't making any sense...? Someone else also said "Nomis says "this card cannot be Special Summoned, except by ....."Semi nomis says "this card can only be special summoned by". Nomis can only be summoned by its own effect. " So what IS a Nomi and a Semi-Nomi? Also I want to bring up that Chaos Emperor says "This card cannot be normal summoned or set. This card can only be special summoned by removing blah blah..." Sp I'm assuming it cannot be brought back with a card like Call ever even if it HAS been summoned with a light and dark? And I noticed Black luster says "This card can only be special summoned by removing blah blah..." So can he be normal summoned/set? It doesn't say "This card cannot be normal summoned or set" on the card at all. And again, original question. What's the rulings on special summoning him from the graveyard? So is Black luster also a semi-nomi because of the "can only be special summoned" thing even though it lacks the "This card cannot be normal summoned or set" part? Sorry for the n00bness but I've never heard the terms Nomi/Semi-nomi before. Black Luster Soldier and Chaos Emperor Dragon can be summoned from the graveyard with cards like monster reborn if you summoned them previously with their own effect. The black luster soldier that lacks the part that says that cannot be normal summoned is errata'd. My questions of today are: Can you summon "Armityle the Chaos Phantom" with "Future Fusion" and Can I active "Future Fusion" to send Materials for "Armityle the Chaos Phantom" to grave? If yes' date=' and "Armityle" can't be summoned (depending on the 1st question) what happens to the "Fusion"?[/quote'] You cannot use Future Fusion for fusion monsters that cannot be summoned with Polymerization. So you cannot even activate Future Fusion to try to fusion summon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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