newhat Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 To activate Rain Storm, does the monster's attack need to be either 2000 or 1000? Or can I activate either effect on something like Smokeball?You need to be able to decrease its ATK by the chosen amount. If it's not 2000 or higher, you can't activate the "destroy 2" effect. Generally this means Eye of the Typhoon or Nimbusman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overfrost! Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 I thought if a monster tried to equip itself with another monster and left the field before the effect resolved, the target went to the Graveyard. But I don't know why I thought that.From wiki: If an effect like "Book of Moon" or "Ring of Destruction" is Chained to the effect of "Destiny Hero - Plasma"/"Relinquished"/"Thousand-Eyes Restrict"/etc so that "Destiny Hero - Plasma" is not face-up on the field at resolution, then the effect of "Destiny Hero - Plasma" etc is not negated and it is still applied. However, the opponent's monster cannot be equipped to "Destiny Hero - Plasma" etc, so the monster is sent from the opponent's Monster Card Zone to the Graveyard.It might refer to this: If the equipped monster is no longer face-up on the field, or is no longer a valid target, the Equip Card is immediately destroyed.As the monster is going to be equipped like any other Equip Cards. Plasma does have that ruling, but I have no idea why. I'm partially basing my answer on the ruling of No.101/C101, where if 101/C101 leave the Field before resolution, nothing happens to the opponent's monster. I don't think Relinquished has that ruling, but Plasma does.Relinquished also has it, it's the same thing after all. In any case, if Vamp left the Field before resolution, it would still not do anything, because the target is no longer valid, as Vamp's ATK can't be compared when off the Field.Vamp's effect use 'it' in its wording, which ignore any targeting conditions during resolution. Thus it will still resolve even if it leaves the field/flipped face-down, sending the target to the Graveyard as the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Given Mask Change Second: Discard 1 card, then target 1 face-up monster you control that has a Level; send it to the Graveyard, then Special Summon 1 "Masked HERO" monster from your Extra Deck with the same Attribute as that monster, but with a higher Level. (This Special Summon is treated as a Special Summon with "Mask Change".) You can only activate 1 "Mask Change Second" per turn.would tokens be a valid target for the card? since it doesn't send as a cost, it should work, but I'd like to check to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Given Mask Change Second: would tokens be a valid target for the card? since it doesn't send as a cost, it should work, but I'd like to check to make sure. Yes, it should work. Since it targets the monster on the Field, the Attribute and Level are verified at that point, and since it's not a cost, the Token disappearing should not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yes, it should work. Since it targets the monster on the Field, the Attribute and Level are verified at that point, and since it's not a cost, the Token disappearing should not be an issue.Actually it shouldn't, because you send, "then" summon. According to PSCT rules for "then" A is required for B. Since the Token is never actually sent to the Graveyard, no monster will be summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Actually it shouldn't, because you send, "then" summon. According to PSCT rules for "then" A is required for B. Since the Token is never actually sent to the Graveyard, no monster will be summoned. Ah, that's right. Tokens can be used for effects, but if sending to the Graveyard and the effect doesn't happen simultaneously, it won't finish the effect. Altar for Tribute works the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 "and if you do," So the first part can happen even if I am unable to complete the second part right? The specific card in question is Void Trap Hole. When your opponent Special Summons a monster(s) with 2000 or more ATK: Negate the effects of one of those monsters with 2000 or more ATK, and if you do, destroy it. I'm wondering if for some reason the card cannot be destroyed will the effect still be negated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 "and if you do," So the first part can happen even if I am unable to complete the second part right? The specific card in question is Void Trap Hole. I'm wondering if for some reason the card cannot be destroyed will the effect still be negated? Yes. If it cannot be negated, however, it will not be destroyed. But it will be negated even if you can't destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Can I target a facedown Satellaknight I control with http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Starcrossed_Satellarknights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Can I target a facedown Satellaknight I control with http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Starcrossed_Satellarknights No. While it is facedown, the gamestate cannot confirm it is a Satellaknight. This is different from Icarus Attack and Viruses, which Tribute as a cost. If the card targets, the target must be faceup so that players can confirm it is a correct target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Simochi Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Somebody please teach me pendulums I beg.I'm obviously grown out of the series in a long while and not gonna watch it just for the sake of getting the mechanics explained..Don't try yugioh.wikia me, I already tried, didn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherDuelist Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Pendulum Monsters are a type of Main Deck card. Basically, they are a combination of monster and spell cards. The Pendulum cards have 3 uses. 1) To use as ordinary monsters.2) To place in 1 of 2 Pendulum Zones to achieve various effects3) Pendulum Summon Pendulum Summoning is where you take the scales of the 2 monsters in the zones (the number next to the red and blue jewel things), and Special Summon monsters from your hand whose levels are within those boundaries. Say I have a pendulum monster in the first zone that's a scale of 1, and I have one in the other zone that has a scale of 8. I can now SS as many monsters from my hand whose LV is between 1 and 8 (2-7). This can only be done once per turn. Also, when Pendulum Monsters are sent from the field to the graveyard, they go the the Extra Deck instead. This occurs even if the Extra Deck limit is exceeded in-duel. Then, if you can Pendulum Summon, you can also summon those Pendulum Monsters from your Extra Deck as if they were in your hand, if that card is between the 2 scales of the Pendulum Monsters. That's a general overview of Pendulum Monsters. Hope that helped a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ah, that's right. Tokens can be used for effects, but if sending to the Graveyard and the effect doesn't happen simultaneously, it won't finish the effect. Altar for Tribute works the same way.But for some strange reason, there's a ruling for Mask Change (which I imagine it must apply to its sister cards) that dictates that even if the monster is banished by the likes of Macro Cosmos, you still get the summon. Though I believe you won't be able to use a token even so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 But for some strange reason, there's a ruling for Mask Change (which I imagine it must apply to its sister cards) that dictates that even if the monster is banished by the likes of Macro Cosmos, you still get the summon. Though I believe you won't be able to use a token even so. I did notice that. So ultimately, I have no idea. Hopefully, the OCG will get a ruling for Mask Change Second, as it pretty much is begging to be used with a Token, so it's almost certainly a ruling question to pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Midrash vs House Duston.Could I spam the field or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Midrash vs House Duston.Could I spam the field or no?You are still summoning 1 time. It works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Can monsters like Yamata Dragon be Pendulum Summoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Can monsters like Yamata Dragon be Pendulum Summoned?If it says "Cannot be Special Summoned" it cannot be Special Summoned, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 lol thanks, just tested it out actually, so I was gonna delete that post haha. I thought I read that Pendulum Summons were explicitly not Special Summons, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syncopation Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Number 101 vs. Forbidden Dress I was playing on YGOpro when my opponent summoned Number 101, then targeted my monster with his effect. I chained Forbidden Dress, which suppose to give my monster targeting immunity, but it was snatched up anyway. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Number 101 vs. Forbidden Dress I was playing on YGOpro when my opponent summoned Number 101, then targeted my monster with his effect. I chained Forbidden Dress, which suppose to give my monster targeting immunity, but it was snatched up anyway. Why?Forbidden Dress prevents the selected monster from being targeted by effects, that is correct. However, in this case, when you activated Forbidden Dress, your monster had already been targeted. Had you activated Forbidden Dress when he Summon Number 101, your monster would be in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Number 101 vs. Forbidden Dress I was playing on YGOpro when my opponent summoned Number 101, then targeted my monster with his effect. I chained Forbidden Dress, which suppose to give my monster targeting immunity, but it was snatched up anyway. Why? Safe Zone works the same way. Sadly, this is a very common matter of confusion. Keep in mind that targeting happens BEFORE anything can chain to it. If Dress said to negate effects that target, then it would protect your monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 BTW, folks, we finally got a veredict from Konami regarding Mask Change Second and Tokens: Q: Is it possible to target a Token with Mask Change Second?A: Yes, it is possible. In that case, you still Special Summon a “Masked HERO” monster with the same Attribute and a higher Level than that Token. The Token disappears, and is not sent to the Graveyard. Source: The Organization. I'm glad to know I can make Kamikaze with my MPB Token :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Okay, so I was right the first time. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterr259 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Dystopic Barian w/ No.86 RhongomiantWho's End Phase Effect activates first? Someone told me one thing and another told me something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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