Blake Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 If (...): You canWhen (...): You canWhen (...): Do (...) (1) and (3) never miss while (2) can miss right? And it's just those 3 I should know about?There is also If...: Do, but yes, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 If (...): You canWhen (...): You canWhen (...): Do (...) (1) and (3) never miss while (2) can miss right? And it's just those 3 I should know about?Easier way to think about it is that (2) is the only wording that misses timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Alright, thanks. Also, example: Card A says "When this card is discarded: You can (...)"Card B says "Discard AND (...)"Card C says "Discard, then (...)" A won't miss on card B but will miss on card C, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Correct. B's discard and payoff are simultaneous, but C does one before the other. The last thing to happen for C will be the payoff, not the discard. A question about Destructotron. If the target is flipped face-up in response to his effect, is it still destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Correct. B's discard and payoff are simultaneous, but C does one before the other. The last thing to happen for C will be the payoff, not the discard. A question about Destructotron. If the target is flipped face-up in response to his effect, is it still destroyed?Yes. It would not, however, if it said "target 1 face-down card; destroy that target" the key words being "that target" as it is no longer considered the same target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 More accurately, it is no longer a VALID target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Maybe someone can help me If I have a No 54 Lion Heart on the field and my opponent attacks with, idk, a Vorse Raider. Per Lionheart's effect, we'd both take 1800. However, if I detach a material, does my opponent take double the damage instead of me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 No. If you aren't taking battle damage, why would its effect activate? 0 is 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 So what's the point of that effect then? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 So what's the point of that effect then? LmaoSo that if you can't activate it without losing harder (Masquerade or equivalent) or if you run out of mats, you don't just get wrecked. Also to use the detach selectively, instead of just lawl I reflect your 500 points of attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 So what's the point of that effect then? Lmao If you don't detach, both players take damage. If you do detach, only your opponent takes damage. You're likely going to detach every time No.54 battles until it's out of Materials, at which point, your opponent is STILL taking damage, but you are too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Does Metaion burn for cards returned to the Extra Deck / banished by Plaguespreader effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Does Metaion burn for cards returned to the Extra Deck / banished by Plaguespreader effects? Cards returned to the Extra Deck are counted toward Metaion's effect. Cards that are banished or sent to the grave when they leave the field are not counted toward Metaion's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunn O))) Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 If I had Dimensional Fissures, are Artifacts that are set in the S/T zone banished when they are destroyed, or do they just go to the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Can Strike Bounzer negate Battle Fader's "end the battle phase?" If an opponent's effect is negated then Tachyon Dragon gets no boost right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 If I had Dimensional Fissures, are Artifacts that are set in the S/T zone banished when they are destroyed, or do they just go to the graveyard. Graveyard. They're Spells at that time. Can Strike Bounzer negate Battle Fader's "end the battle phase?" If an opponent's effect is negated then Tachyon Dragon gets no boost right?No. Battle Fader's entire effect activates and resolves in the hand. Also, you can't negate half an effect. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Resolve Any card or effect that activates must resolve, unless the activation itself was negated So if an effect is negated because of the likes of Veiler, Tachyon will still Trigger. But if it was negated by, say, Divine Wrath, Tachyon gets nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks, also: Monsters negated by Tachyon Dragon can still activate right? If that effect resolves somewhere else (like Cyber Valley) what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks, also: Monsters negated by Tachyon Dragon can still activate right? If that effect resolves somewhere else (like Cyber Valley) what happens?"Resolves somewhere else"Card effects resolve where they activate. All the time.If it activates on the field while under Tachyon's condition, it'll be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 When I Ritual Summon a monster, and my opponent activates Bottomless Trap Hole, can I cancel the effect by activating Ritual Buster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawkobo Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 "Ritual Buster" only prevents the activation of Spell and Trap Cards, and the activation of the effect of Spell and Trap Cards which are already face-up on the field. It does not prevent Spell and Trap Cards like "Burden of the Mighty" and "Gravity Bind" with Continuous Effects from applying their effects.[2] My guess would be yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 When I Ritual Summon a monster, and my opponent activates Bottomless Trap Hole, can I cancel the effect by activating Ritual Buster? No. When you Summon a Ritual monster, you can activate Ritual Buster as Link 1. Bottomless can be activated as Link 2, because Ritual Buster has not resolved yet. Even if Ritual Buster is Link 2, it will not prevent Bottomless from resolving, as it has already been activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Can my opponent negate things like Star Drawing/Gagaga Girl/Gagagarevenge Xyz Summon effects with things like Divine Punishment? If a trap activates in the graveyard like Breakthrough Skill you can negate it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Can my opponent negate things like Star Drawing/Gagaga Girl/Gagagarevenge Xyz Summon effects with things like Divine Punishment? If a trap activates in the graveyard like Breakthrough Skill you can negate it right?Star Drawing and Girl, yes because it's the activation of a monster's effect. Gagagarevenge no, because it's the activation of a Spell Card's Effect, not the Spell Card. Yes, with effects that negate "The activation of a Trap Card's Effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I should remember this, but if you send or http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Laval_Phlogis to the Graveyard to Synchro Summon a Laval Synchro, are their effects applied to that new Synchro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Can my opponent negate things like Star Drawing/Gagaga Girl/Gagagarevenge Xyz Summon effects with things like Divine Punishment? If a trap activates in the graveyard like Breakthrough Skill you can negate it right?The effects that Xyz monsters gain through cards like Star Drawing are effects that activate and start a chain when the Xyz monster is summoned. Divine Punishment can negate the effect. Breakthrough Skill Graveyard effect can be negated by cards that negate the effects of cards that target or cards that negate the effect of Traps. It cannot be negated by cards that negate the activation of Trap Cards. For example, if you used Breakthrough Skill from the grave, Maiden or Bujingi Turtle could negate it, but LaDD could not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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