Bringerofcake Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Regarding the effect of Summon Breaker, does it need to be on the field when each of the three Summons occurs? Or can I activate it after a second summon and when the third summon resolves, the effect activates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Summon Breaker triggers on the turn player's third Summon even if it wasn't face-up to "see" the first two. To add a question. If my opponent activates MST targeting a Set Hazy Glory or Bubble Bringer, can I flip those cards face-up in response and then send them to the Graveyard for their revival effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 To add a question. If my opponent activates MST targeting a Set Hazy Glory or Bubble Bringer, can I flip those cards face-up in response and then send them to the Graveyard for their revival effects? Both cards require them to "send this face-up card" as the cost to activate it. If its face-down, then you would not be able to pay the cost to activate that effect, so no, you cannot. Remember that turning the card face-up is also a part of your attempt to "activate the card". If it cannot be activated (because you cannot pay the cost), it cannot be flipped face-up (in an attempt to activate that effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Both cards have a Continuous effect; I thought they could be flipped to activate at any time without regard to their self-sacrificial effect. After flipping them face-up to activate the cards, but before the Chain begins to resolve, can I attempt to use their self-sacrificial effects as the next link on the Chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Another Summon Breaker question. Let us assume my opponent has summoned twice already. He summons a monster, and I activate Demise of the Land to activate Breaker from my deck. Does Breaker activate at that point, since the third summon was successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Another Summon Breaker question. Let us assume my opponent has summoned twice already. He summons a monster, and I activate Demise of the Land to activate Breaker from my deck. Does Breaker activate at that point, since the third summon was successful?No. The Trigger Effect of Breaker has to respond to the Summon in question. This is kind of like Call of the Haunted and Stardust Dragon. EDIT: A question. If my only monster is Trifortresstops, can my opponent's Ice Beast Zerofyne gain ATK with its effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 If I use Big Eye's effect then summon 107 or 69 can I attattack with big eye that turn because its effect becomes negated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 If I use Big Eye's effect then summon 107 or 69 can I attattack with big eye that turn because its effect becomes negated?No. I'm not sure if negating the activation would let Big Eye attack, but if it's already been activated and resolved, Big Eye is definitely not attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Big Eye's inability to attack is a Condition placed upon it when it activated and resolved its effect. Conditions cannot be negated, so no, Big Eye still cannot attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'm not sure if negating the activation would let Big Eye attackSince you brought it up:Since big eye specifies it cannot attack "the turn you activate this effect", negating the activation will let it attack again.Activate is the key word here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 That's correct. It's similar to Pot of Duality, where if the activation of the card is negated, the restrictions on SSing never take effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 This is a conflict between OCG and TCG rulings on Chaos Sorcerer, which uses the same language, as specified here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 The contradiction on the page is worded wrong. It says that the OCG ruling on Big Eye supports that it CAN attack because the effect (not the activation) was negated, when it's actually the other way around. If the ACTIVATION is negated, it can attack. If only the effect is negated (by Veiler or similar), it still cannot attack. The TCG ruling with Chaos Sorcerer is not a confirmed ruling. Big Eye's TCG text says "activate", so it should follow the OCG ruling correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoricuaBeast Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 This has been bugging me for a bit and a few friends of mine wanna confirm this: Opponent has Ophion and 3 other monsters on field and I have Lava golem in hand. Am I capable of getting off Lava Golem's cost or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 This has been bugging me for a bit and a few friends of mine wanna confirm this: Opponent has Ophion and 3 other monsters on field and I have Lava golem in hand. Am I capable of getting off Lava Golem's cost or no?Assuming Ophion has an Xyz Material, no. You cannot even attempt the Special Summon of a level 5 or higher monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Fairly certain I know this one and DevPro seems to confirm it, but just making sure: If I detach Archfiend Heiress from Wind-Up Zenmaines to protect it from being destroyed, I do get to search provided I haven't used the effect of a Heiress earlier in the turn, right? I'm guessing it's a yes because the detach is an effect and not a cost, but again, just verifying. And then this one I don't really know: If Skill Drain is face-up on the field, can I Xyz Summon a Rank 8 non-Fiend monster using Archfiend Genesis because it's effect preventing me from summoning non-Fiends is not currently in effect? I'm assuming it's not a condition but rather an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Zenmaines's detach is the application of a Continuous Effect. It will trigger Heiress. Genesis/First Lords's "You cannot Special Summon monsters, except Fiend-Type monsters" is an effect and can be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatamoto32 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Can my Phantom Beast Rock-Lizard use his 1 tribute effect by tributing a Mecha Phantom Beast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Certainly. It is a Phantom Beast, after all. EDIT: Question. If a monster is targeted by Forbidden Lance, and later in the turn Horn of the Phantom Beast is targeted on it, will the "equip" effect of Horn fail, and if so, will Horn stay on the field uselessly forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikaruX Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Can I Special Summon "Queen Angel of Roses" from my Deck or Graveyard with the effects of: "Lonefire Bloosom" and "Gigaplant" cause the effect says that it also counts as a Plant-type monster but I don't know if it's only on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Queen Angel of Roses? This? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Queen_Angel_of_Roses That's already a Plant-Type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikaruX Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Can I special summon a Malefic Monster if the gravekeeper that turns into a field is face-up? Or do I need a real field spell? Oh, ok. Cause when I searched for it it had a different effect, but good to know, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Can I special summon a Malefic Monster if the gravekeeper that turns into a field is face-up? Or do I need a real field spell?You can special summon it regardless of having a field spell. Garvekeeper's Priestess will not stop it from blowing up as they do require there to be a physical field spell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikaruX Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 The counter Trap card : "Madolche Tea Break" says that as long as I have no monsters i can negate any spell/traps, but what I don't understand is that: does it return to your hand or does it return to the hand the card you negated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 The negated card is returned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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