Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Sander]

So, Geartown + Absorbing Jar. Can you activate Geartowns effect if it's destroyed with Jar? I'm only asking because a person posted a deck in the deck section and said that DevPro allowed that to happen, so I got curious.

[newhat]

First the Set Geartown is destroyed, then you draw cards for each Set card that was destroyed. "Then" will prevent Geartown's destruction from being the last thing to happen in the game, and it will miss the timing.

[evilfusion]

That should be an error in Devpro's programming. Geartown would miss the timing in that case, because the last event to resolve is drawing cards, not destroying cards.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

 If the attack of the monster affected by Baby Tiragon's effect is negated, and you use Double or Nothing on that same monster, will the second attack also be a direct attack?

[-Berserker-]

 If the attack of the monster affected by Baby Tiragon's effect is negated, and you use Double or Nothing on that same monster, will the second attack also be a direct attack?

Tiragon's effect doesn't last a single attack. As long as the targeted monster remains face-up on the field, it can attack directly.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

If a monster atk becomes zero and then venom swamp triggers, will it destroy the monster or will it not because the monsters atk became zero before hand?

[newhat]

A monster whose ATK was 0 before Venom Swamp reduced it is not destroyed by Venom Swamp.

[Zazubat]

A monster whose ATK was 0 before Venom Swamp reduced it is not destroyed by Venom Swamp.

Also, if you read Venon Swamp, it's destroy effect is only if it was reduced by itself.

 

Vampire Grace's effect won't be able to activate if Vampire Genesis is Special Summoned right?

[darkwolf777]

Vampire Grace's effect won't be able to activate if Vampire Genesis is Special Summoned right?

 

Summoning Conditions are not effects.  Summoning Vampire Genesis with its Summon Condition will not trigger Vampire Grace.

[Zazubat]

Summoning Conditions are not effects.  Summoning Vampire Genesis with its Summon Condition will not trigger Vampire Grace.

That's also what I figured, I just wasn't 100 % sure, so wanted to ask just in case.

[newhat]

If more than 1 "Ghostrick" monster is destroyed simultaneously, can the effect of Ghostrick Specter be activated?
 

[darkwolf777]

If more than 1 "Ghostrick" monster is destroyed simultaneously, can the effect of Ghostrick Specter be activated?

 

 

Yes.  Yugioh usually makes it pretty clear if an effect means just one by stating "exactly 1" in its card text.

[Zazubat]

I know I'm right, though people start to argue, and some people even say it's wrong without getting any objections, so, I ask: Vanity's Emptiness in response to Dark Simorgh's Special Summon, what happens? I have been through this before, but since people argue, I want to know. I know that what happens is that it cannot be Special Summoned because at the point at resolution where it would be Special Summoned, it cannot. I know that inherrent Special Summons will work, since they do not start a chain. As you can see, my opponnet also Special Summoned The Tricky, which I cannot respond to. That's how it works. I know it, though people still want to prove me wrong. So, am I right, or am I wrong?

 

[hexcalibrate]

I know I'm right, though people start to argue, and some people even say it's wrong without getting any objections, so, I ask: Vanity's Emptiness in response to Dark Simorgh's Special Summon, what happens? I have been through this before, but since people argue, I want to know. I know that what happens is that it cannot be Special Summoned because at the point at resolution where it would be Special Summoned, it cannot. I know that inherrent Special Summons will work, since they do not start a chain. As you can see, my opponnet also Special Summoned The Tricky, which I cannot respond to. That's how it works. I know it, though people still want to prove me wrong. So, am I right, or am I wrong?

 

from what I know, yes you are right, there is a gap between simorgh's eff triggering to it being summoned where you can activate vanity's emptiness (which i'm guessing you did) preventing it from being summoned.

 

on a similar note, I'm probably being stupid but does vanity destroy itself when you detach Xyz material?

[Zazubat]

on a similar note, I'm probably being stupid but does vanity destroy itself when you detach Xyz material?

No, this I'm sure of, since Xyz Materials are never on the field.

[-Berserker-]

People should pay more attention now to the difference between inherent summons and chain-starting summons, considering Dragon Rulers are everywhere, and they summon themselves by chainable effect. The trick is in the ";" after the cost; that's where cards can be chained to it.

 

 

Question

Will March of the Monarchs affect continuously targetting cards like Equip Spells equipped to the tribute summoned monster before March was activated?

[darkwolf777]

Will March of the Monarchs affect continuously targetting cards like Equip Spells equipped to the tribute summoned monster before March was activated?

 

No, it would not.

[.codex]

No, it would not.

And you can confirm this in any way? I have been unable to find any infomation on the case, neither the english or japanese wiki gives me the right infomation. I would however agree, as the card is already targeted, and March doesn't mention anything happening to those already targeted.

[darkwolf777]

And you can confirm this in any way? I have been unable to find any infomation on the case, neither the english or japanese wiki gives me the right infomation. I would however agree, as the card is already targeted, and March doesn't mention anything happening to those already targeted.

 

An old example, using Call of the Haunted to Special Summon Obelisk The Tormentor.  Call continuously targets the cards it Special Summons.  If Call is destroyed, Obelisk is still destroyed.

 

As long as it can target, Continuous targeting will continue to go on, even if the monster cannot be targeted by effects.  Only new attempts to target will be prohibited.  Consider Continuous Effects to have already successfully targeted the monster.

[.codex]

An old example, using Call of the Haunted to Special Summon Obelisk The Tormentor.  Call continuously targets the cards it Special Summons.  If Call is destroyed, Obelisk is still destroyed.

 

As long as it can target, Continuous targeting will continue to go on, even if the monster cannot be targeted by effects.  Only new attempts to target will be prohibited.  Consider Continuous Effects to have already successfully targeted the monster.

I get your example, but based on Obelisk's wording, you shouldn't even be able to target it.

[Miror B]

I get your example, but based on Obelisk's wording, you shouldn't even be able to target it.

Obelisk has no effect in the Graveyard.

[darkwolf777]

My Mistake.  Your message was for codex.

[Zazubat]

Does Skull Lair target? And if I chain Book of Moon, will my monster be destroyed? Because of this:

 

The face-down was BoM btw.

 

EDIT:

 

Was just watching a game on DN. Player used his Swords of Conceiling Light, flipping everything face-down. Now, the opponent also had a Token on their field. Since Tokens can't be face-down, the Rulings to Swords says it goes to simply Defense Position instead. So, the opponent used Tragedy. Is that possible at this point?

[.codex]

Does Skull Lair target? And if I chain Book of Moon, will my monster be destroyed? Because of this:

 

The face-down was BoM btw.

 

EDIT:

 

Was just watching a game on DN. Player used his Swords of Conceiling Light, flipping everything face-down. Now, the opponent also had a Token on their field. Since Tokens can't be face-down, the Rulings to Swords says it goes to simply Defense Position instead. So, the opponent used Tragedy. Is that possible at this point?

On the japanese wikia, it says that it doesn't.

フィールド上のモンスターを対象に取りますか？= Do you take to target the monsters on the field?

取りません。= Does not take.

 

It's broken translation, but what I can gather from this is that it does not target.

 

The second thing I don't know about.

[Synchronized]

Question: 

 

If I attack into my opponent's "Sabersaurus" with my "Elemental HERO Neos Alius" and my opponent activates "Dimensional Prison", then I respond with "Enemy Controller", changing Alius to Defense Position, is the monster still banished or no because it's no longer "attacking"?