Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Zazubat]

For Salvage and Crystal Blessing, either Konami's wrong in its PSCT (which there are many that are) or the Graveyard has different rules for it.  Either way, to avoid confusion, they should just say "those cards".  It does make a difference in many cards whether it says "targets" or "those cards", but at the same time such cards that I can think of only apply to those on the field.

Well, both rulings are Upper Deck's rulings, so that might be the case. Anyway, it has cleared it up a bit more than before for me, so thanks.

[Airride]

I summon Laval Stennon, and its mandatory discard effect activates. They chain the effect of Constellar Pleiades. Can I chain the Anti-Targeting effect of Stennon?

[darkwolf777]

I summon Laval Stennon, and its mandatory discard effect activates. They chain the effect of Constellar Pleiades. Can I chain the Anti-Targeting effect of Stennon?

 

Sure, why not? Stennon was successfully summoned.  You can activate his effects.

[Zazubat]

Can I activate Trap Cards, even though Trap Stun was activated previously?

 

If my opponent activates a Ritual Spell Card, and I chain Vanity's Emptiness, will the monsters still be send to the Graveyard?

[darkwolf777]

Can I activate Trap Cards, even though Trap Stun was activated previously?

 

If my opponent activates a Ritual Spell Card, and I chain Vanity's Emptiness, will the monsters still be send to the Graveyard?

 

1) Yes, you can still activate Trap Cards

 

2) Tributing monsters for a Ritual Summon is not a cost, it is part of the process of Ritual Summoning.  If you cannot Special Summon, you do not perform the process.  No cards will be tributed.

[Zazubat]

If I Synchro into Infernity Doom Dragon in Attack Position, and my opponent activates Solemn Warning or something, can I activate Infernity Barrier, or is my monster no properly Summoned yet, and is therefor not in face-up Attack Position?

[darkwolf777]

If I Synchro into Infernity Doom Dragon in Attack Position, and my opponent activates Solemn Warning or something, can I activate Infernity Barrier, or is my monster no properly Summoned yet, and is therefor not in face-up Attack Position?

 

Your monster hasn't been Summoned yet.  Its not on the field.  You cannot count it for the requirements of Infernity Barrier.

[-Berserker-]

Gagaga Magician cannot be used for Synchros due to a condition. Can I copy Gagaga with Phantom of Chaos and use Phantom for a Synchro?

[Zazubat]

Gagaga Magician cannot be used for Synchros due to a condition. Can I copy Gagaga with Phantom of Chaos and use Phantom for a Synchro?

The text "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster, except for the Synchro Summon of a Dragon-Type Synchro Monster. The other Synchro Material Monster(s) cannot be Level 4." of "Debris Dragon" is not treated as an effect, so if "Neo-Spacian Dark Panther" or "Phantom of Chaos" copies "Debris Dragon", then you do not apply this text. Thus, if "Neo-Spacian Dark Panther" copies "Debris Dragon", then you can use it for the Synchro Summon of a non-Dragon-Type Synchro Monster, and the other Synchro Material Monsters may be Level 4.

 

Conditions are not effects, so they don't carry over, which is actually quite handy don't you think?

[Alpakha]

If the target monster of Fiendish Chain gets flipped face down, does Chain still apply to that target or no?

[Zazubat]

If the target monster of Fiendish Chain gets flipped face down, does Chain still apply to that target or no?

Fiendish Chains must targate a face-up card as written on the card. If it's face-down, it loses it's target, but will remain on the field (like Call of the Haunted). Also, if a monster is face-down, cards generally lose their target, I think they would just have to say "Trarget 1 monster your opponent controls" for it to not care if they're flipped face-down.

[Zazubat]

Wira, Nowi and I have had an arguement about this ruling quiz.

It seems that most have been figured out, there's still a few I'm not sure about, if they're right or not.

 

Question 2:

"A “Dragon Knight Draco-Equiste” which has copied the name and effects of “Black-Winged Dragon” declares an attack. The opponent responds with “Magic Cylinder”. How does “Magic Cylinder” resolve? The correct answer is "The attack is negated, and the opponent takes 3200 damage." Is that true? I would think that because Draco-Esquiste can bounce the damage back, that it is.

 

Question 5:

When activating “Mind Crush”, which of these names can you declare? The correct answer is Victory Dragon, but Nowi argues that you could still name Lemuria, the Forgotten City, even though it's treated as Umi.

 

Question 10:

You control “Mist Valley Falcon”, and a “Big Bang Shot” which is equipped to a “Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon” on your opponent’s side of the field. Your opponent also controls “Earthbound Immortal Ccarayhua” in Defense Position. Which of the following scenarios occurs when you declare an attack with “Mist Valley Falcon”? The correct answer is "“Mist Valley Falcon” cannot declare an attack because doing so would remove the only legal attack target when “Big Bang Shot” is returned to the hand." Is that correct?

[darkwolf777]

Wira, Nowi and I have had an arguement about this ruling quiz.

It seems that most have been figured out, there's still a few I'm not sure about, if they're right or not.

Question 2:

"A “Dragon Knight Draco-Equiste” which has copied the name and effects of “Black-Winged Dragon” declares an attack. The opponent responds with “Magic Cylinder”. How does “Magic Cylinder” resolve? The correct answer is "The attack is negated, and the opponent takes 3200 damage." Is that true? I would think that because Draco-Esquiste can bounce the damage back, that it is.

 

Question 5:

When activating “Mind Crush”, which of these names can you declare? The correct answer is Victory Dragon, but Nowi argues that you could still name Lemuria, the Forgotten City, even though it's treated as Umi.

 

Question 10:

You control “Mist Valley Falcon”, and a “Big Bang Shot” which is equipped to a “Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon” on your opponent’s side of the field. Your opponent also controls “Earthbound Immortal Ccarayhua” in Defense Position. Which of the following scenarios occurs when you declare an attack with “Mist Valley Falcon”? The correct answer is "“Mist Valley Falcon” cannot declare an attack because doing so would remove the only legal attack target when “Big Bang Shot” is returned to the hand." Is that correct?

 

For the Dragon Knight Draco-Equiste, you only gain a counter if you would take Effect Damage (using Black-Winged Dragon's effect).  The effect of bouncing back the damage with Draco-Equiste prevents you from being able to take Effect Damage and therefore you will not gain a counter instead.  The damage will be reflected via Draco-Equiste's effect.

 

You cannot declare "Lemuria, The Forgotten City" because its name for all intensive purposes is "Umi".  You can only declare it as such.

 

I do know that the way the DS game handles the situation is not correct on how the actual game handles the situation, as there are indeed situations where Mist Valley Falcon will not be able to remove Big Bang Shot if it leaves it unable to attack the remaining target.  Unfortunately, the Japanese Q&A for the situation translates very poorly using Google Translate to say exactly what it means, although it does seem that one cannot declare an attack if an alternative target cannot be selected as an attack target, including situations with Earthbound Immortals as well as with cards like Marauding Captain and another Warrior monster, even though removing Marauding Captain with Big Bang Shot would remove its protection for the other monster (or so I believe the Q&A said) so attacks cannot be declared in either situation if you plan to remove Big Bang Shot.

[Zazubat]

You cannot declare "Lemuria, The Forgotten City" because its name for all intensive purposes is "Umi".  You can only declare it as such.

 

I do know that the way the DS game handles the situation is not correct on how the actual game handles the situation, as there are indeed situations where Mist Valley Falcon will not be able to remove Big Bang Shot if it leaves it unable to attack the remaining target.  Unfortunately, the Japanese Q&A for the situation translates very poorly using Google Translate to say exactly what it means, although it does seem that one cannot declare an attack if an alternative target cannot be selected as an attack target, including situations with Earthbound Immortals as well as with cards like Marauding Captain and another Warrior monster, even though removing Marauding Captain with Big Bang Shot would remove its protection for the other monster (or so I believe the Q&A said) so attacks cannot be declared in either situation if you plan to remove Big Bang Shot.

Alright, what about Question 2?

[darkwolf777]

Alright, what about Question 2?

Updated my post with that answer.

[Zazubat]

Updated my post with that answer.

Ahh, that makes sense. So, it doesn't really look like the quiz was wrong after all.

[Zazubat]

Can I activate Shining Elf's effect twice on the same Summon?

[evilfusion]

Can I activate Shining Elf's effect twice on the same Summon?

 

No. Trigger Effects only activate once per instance of the event. Since only one Summon is occuring, Shining Elf can activate its effect once. If you had multiple Shining Elfs, each could activate its effect in response to that Summon.

 

With the quiz question about Lemuria, the only contradicting card is Warrior of Atlantis, which explicitly names "A Legendary Ocean" in its text. However, ALO treats itself as Umi. No other card seems to reference the "original" name of a card with Harpie Lady clause.

[Zazubat]

My opponent argues that I can only use Armor when I battle a monster, but it only says "battles" not "battles an opponent's monster", so is the current translation wrong, or is "battles" the same as "battles an opponent's monster"?

[Blake]

If I use Double Summon during the same turn I successfully Norma, summoned Constellar Pollux, do I get another normal summon for each?

[darkwolf777]

My opponent argues that I can only use Armor when I battle a monster, but it only says "battles" not "battles an opponent's monster", so is the current translation wrong, or is "battles" the same as "battles an opponent's monster"?

 

A monster that battles will include both the one that declares the attack and the attack target.  Both monsters battle each other. 

 

It doesn't matter if you declare the attack or someone declares an attack on one of your monsters;  Both monsters are considered battling and can trigger Armor .

 

 

If I use Double Summon during the same turn I successfully Norma, summoned Constellar Pollux, do I get another normal summon for each?

 

Double Summon's summon is not in relation to your "Normal Summon or Set".  It can stack with Constellar Pollux.

[Zazubat]

A monster that battles will include both the one that declares the attack and the attack target.  Both monsters battle each other. 

 

It doesn't matter if you declare the attack or someone declares an attack on one of your monsters;  Both monsters are considered battling and can trigger Armor .

Sorry, you must have misunderstood me, I should have clarified that I meant attacking directly, as in there not being an attack target at all, other than the player. Is that considered battling, or is it only for monsters?

[darkwolf777]

Sorry, you must have misunderstood me, I should have clarified that I meant attacking directly, as in there not being an attack target at all, other than the player. Is that considered battling, or is it only for monsters?

 

"Only When I battle a monster" can easily be read as "when i declare an attack on a monster rather than him declaring an attack on my own".  That's something you need to clarify yourself when asking the question.

 

You do not need to be attacking a monster in order for it to be considered "battling".

[Zazubat]

"Only When I battle a monster" can easily be read as "when i declare an attack on a monster rather than him declaring an attack on my own".  That's something you need to clarify yourself when asking the question.

 

You do not need to be attacking a monster in order for it to be considered "battling".

I said I was sorry, I should really have said that I was attacking directly. But anyway, thanks for clearing that up.

[-Berserker-]

Tribute Dandylion for Zaborg. Both are mandatory so I can chain them in any order. Zaborg chain link 1, target opponent monster. Dandy chain 2. Only then the opponent can chain an optional effect, right? So cannot use Stardust to negate Zaborg, as it has to be chained directly after the effect to be negated. Am I right, or how all this would resolve?