Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Zazubat]

If a monster attacks directly by the effect of Ghostrick House, while equipped with Rod of the Mind's Eye, is the damage 1000 or 500?

Susa Soldier and Rod's rulings say that the damage becomes the damage that Rod gives, so I would assume that.

 

Now, I got a question, it's about a monster that Summons Tokens that I made:

 

When this card is Summoned: Special Summon 2 “Column Tokens” (Rock-Type/EARTH/Level 1/0 ATK/2000 DEF). These Tokens cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon, or as Synchro Material Monsters. When a monster you control would be destroyed, you can destroy 1 “Column Token” instead.

 

Does my monster need to be face-up for the protection or can it be anywhere?

[ihop]

When this card is Summoned: Special Summon 2 “Column Tokens” (Rock-Type/EARTH/Level 1/0 ATK/2000 DEF). These Tokens cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon, or as Synchro Material Monsters. When a monster you control would be destroyed, you can destroy 1 “Column Token” instead.

 

Does my monster need to be face-up for the protection or can it be anywhere?

 

Unless they specify otherwise all Continuous effects are only active when the monster is face-up on the field. 

[Zazubat]

Unless they specify otherwise all Continuous effects are only active when the monster is face-up on the field. 

If it was a trigger, when what?

[ihop]

If it was a trigger, when what?

 

Err, you'd have to word it so that it somehow becomes part of the condition of the tokens to have that effect, but I dunno how you'd do that. What would be your trigger?

[Zazubat]

Err, you'd have to word it so that it somehow becomes part of the condition of the tokens to have that effect, but I dunno how you'd do that. What would be your trigger?

Well, just switch the comma out with a colon. Like so: When a monster you control would be destroyed: You can destroy 1 “Column Token” instead.

[evilfusion]

The monster with the effect would need to be face-up to destroy Column Tokens instead. It would not need to start a chain. It'd be like how Six Samurai work (although they only protect themselves).

[ihop]

Well, just switch the comma out with a colon. Like so: When a monster you control would be destroyed: You can destroy 1 “Column Token” instead.

 

Oh, right. No, you'd have to put some clause on the tokens in some way because as long as the cards not on the field and it doesn't specify it activates off the field the effects it puts on things disappear, a bit like A-Counters not making opponent's monsters lose ATK when Alien Dog is ont he field.

[Zazubat]

The monster with the effect would need to be face-up to destroy Column Tokens instead. It would not need to start a chain. It'd be like how Six Samurai work (although they only protect themselves).

How would I make it if I wanted to have the Tokens able to do that effect?

Oh, right. No, you'd have to put some clause on the tokens in some way because as long as the cards not on the field and it doesn't specify it activates off the field the effects it puts on things disappear, a bit like A-Counters not making opponent's monsters lose ATK when Alien Dog is ont he field.

Yes, I did hear this a long time ago, though I don't really know how it works for Tokens, as those are monsters, not Counters.

[evilfusion]

Counters are a different thing. Counters on their own do nothing. They've always done nothing. Only when other effects require or affect cards with Counters do counters have an impact on anything. Monsters with Venom Counters don't care until Venom Swamp or other cards that affect Venom Counters (Venom Burn, etc) come into play. A-Counters are likewise.

 

With Tokens, you can look at Ojama Trio. The "effect" of dealing 300 when a Token is destroyed is not an effect of the Token, but a condition placed on them by the card that Summoned them.

[ihop]

Yes, I did hear this a long time ago, though I don't really know how it works for Tokens, as those are monsters, not Counters.

 

It's the same thing, they're both effectless things on the field. EDIT: Nevermind

 

To make it work you could say "These tokens gain the following effect:"

[Zazubat]

Counters are a different thing. Counters on their own do nothing. They've always done nothing. Only when other effects require or affect cards with Counters do counters have an impact on anything. Monsters with Venom Counters don't care until Venom Swamp or other cards that affect Venom Counters (Venom Burn, etc) come into play. A-Counters are likewise.

 

With Tokens, you can look at Ojama Trio. The "effect" of dealing 300 when a Token is destroyed is not an effect of the Token, but a condition placed on them by the card that Summoned them.

I don't get how the way I worded it and how Ojama Trio worded it should be different.

[evilfusion]

After re-reading the text of your custom card, it should function as you intended.

[Zazubat]

After re-reading the text of your custom card, it should function as you intended.

Well, then that's good. I might add something that indicates it, so there's no fuss about this.

[darkwolf777]

It's the same thing, they're both effectless things on the field. EDIT: Nevermind

 

To make it work you could say "These tokens gain the following effect:"

 

Tokens are always Normal Monsters.  They cannot have effects.

[Phantasy Dreamz]

Can I chain Heavy Slump to Introduction to Gallantry for this combo:

 

Heavy Slump's effect will resolve,

then Gallantry resolves

Leaving my opponent with 1 card in the hand.

 

Right?

[darkwolf777]

Can I chain Heavy Slump to Introduction to Gallantry for this combo:

 

Heavy Slump's effect will resolve,

then Gallantry resolves

Leaving my opponent with 1 card in the hand.

 

Right?

 

That's fine.

[Miror B]

Tokens are always Normal Monsters.  They cannot have effects.

Is this a valid rule or is it just one of those unwritten rules of yugioh that just hasn't been contested?

[darkwolf777]

Is this a valid rule or is it just one of those unwritten rules of yugioh that just hasn't been contested?

 

There is nothing in the game that exists that gives Tokens an effect.  There are times where non-Effect monsters may gain an effect (and thereby become Effect Monsters, such as any of the Xyz Material Monster which give the summoned Xyz an effect), but no such situation for Tokens (nor do I think there's one for actual Normal Monsters).  That leaves tokens to simply be considered Normal Monsters, until such a situation exists in the real game where a token can have an Effect.

 

The effects of things like Ojama Trio tokens are not effects of the Tokens but an effect placed onto the tokens by the card that created it.

[Miror B]

There is nothing in the game that exists that gives Tokens an effect.  There are times where non-Effect monsters may gain an effect (and thereby become Effect Monsters, such as any of the Xyz Material Monster which give the summoned Xyz an effect), but no such situation for Tokens (nor do I think there's one for actual Normal Monsters).  That leaves tokens to simply be considered Normal Monsters, until such a situation exists in the real game where a token can have an Effect.

 

The effects of things like Ojama Trio tokens are not effects of the Tokens but an effect placed onto the tokens by the card that created it.

Well the entire question was on a custom card so I'd assume he wanted such a situation to be created.

 

Last I recall Custom Cards don't exactly HAVE to follow the real game exactly if they can do it in a way that's not stupid.

[darkwolf777]

Well the entire question was on a custom card so I'd assume he wanted such a situation to be created.

 

Last I recall Custom Cards don't exactly HAVE to follow the real game exactly if they can do it in a way that's not stupid.

 

If they can do whatever they want, there'd be no point asking questions about wording it in a proper TCG fashion, especially when no such example exists.  I prefer it when custom cards stay within the boundaries of the game.

[newhat]

If I activate the effect of Madolche Ticket with Puddingcess or Tiaramisu on the field, do I have to declare in advance if I want to Special Summon the monster instead of adding it?

[Zazubat]

If I activate the effect of Madolche Ticket with Puddingcess or Tiaramisu on the field, do I have to declare in advance if I want to Special Summon the monster instead of adding it?

Adding it to the hand/Special Summoning happens at resolution, so no, you do not have to declare which monster you're Summoning.

[newhat]

Adding it to the hand/Special Summoning happens at resolution, so no, you do not have to declare which monster you're Summoning.

Stratos does too, but you have to decide which effect you're using at activation. I'm not sure if that carries over to Ticket.

[darkwolf777]

Stratos does too, but you have to decide which effect you're using at activation. I'm not sure if that carries over to Ticket.

 

Stratos says you have to activate one of the effects.  You'd have to say which effect you're activating.

 

You do not have to declare which you will do for Madolche Ticket.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Hmm, as a follow up to the ticket question would Warning be able to stop it in that case?