Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Zazubat]

Because you activate these kinds of Trigger Effects at any time during the End Phase/Standby/etc, these trigger effects DO NOT chain together.  These kinds of Trigger Effects will all form their own chain and be Chain Link #1 in those chains.  SEGOC does not apply for these types of Triggers because they don't activate at the same time, just at some point during that period of time.

 

"Until the End Phase" will cause the effect to end at any time during the End Phase.  When you have priority, you would just announce that you're ending the effect.  You can only due this during the general priority, when nothing is being activated at the time.

Alright thanks, I think that's all my questions about the End Phase today.

[Miror B]

The first one applies to cards with only 1 effect that can be activated. The latter is a card with multiple effects that can be activated, but only one is restricted.

Um...this is late and all but no?

Both refer to "this" effect. They both function the exact same with the only difference being the whole "use" vs "activate" difference.

[Zazubat]

Um...this is late and all but no?

Both refer to "this" effect. They both function the exact same with the only difference being the whole "use" vs "activate" difference.

It in case of E-Dragons, he would be correct, but only because they say "Use 1 "blah" effect per turn".

[Miror B]

It in case of E-Dragons, he would be correct, but only because they say "Use 1 "blah" effect per turn".

But this isn't a case of E-Dragons, it's a case of the wordings in the effects given.

[Blake]

I misread the first one as "the effect".

[Zazubat]

But this isn't a case of E-Dragons, it's a case of the wordings in the effects given.

I might have been confused on what Black meant by that.

[.codex]

Elemental HERO - Great Tornado used it's effect on my War God Emporer - Susanoo. It then attacked with Tornado, I then used Habakiri (as you do) and boosted it's attack up to 4800. Then it returned to it's original ATK. Is it suppose to do that, or is it a glitch with YGOpro?

[Zazubat]

I forgot, this only applies to ED monsters right? That if you negate a SS only monster, you can't revive it right? I would like to know how those rules work again, so blast me with infomation.

[darkwolf777]

Elemental HERO - Great Tornado used it's effect on my War God Emporer - Susanoo. It then attacked with Tornado, I then used Habakiri (as you do) and boosted it's attack up to 4800. Then it returned to it's original ATK. Is it suppose to do that, or is it a glitch with YGOpro?

 

This is correct.  Habakiri sets its attack equal to a value (in this case, it becomes equal to 2x its original attack).  All previous instances of ATK/DEF modifications would be overridden when setting a value equal to something (and any Continuous modifications will then be applied over the set value).  When Habakiri wears off, Susanoo will have its original ATK.

 

 

I forgot, this only applies to ED monsters right? That if you negate a SS only monster, you can't revive it right? I would like to know how those rules work again, so blast me with infomation.

 

 

 

A Nomi and Semi-Nomi monster that has not been summoned to the field properly by its own summoning condition (if it must be summoned via Special Summon) cannot be revived from the Graveyard/Banished zones

 

A Semi-Nomi monster that has been Special Summoned by its summoning conditions may be revived from the Graveyard/Banished.

 

A Nomi monster that has been Special Summoned by its summoning conditions may be revived only by cards that can "Ignore the Summoning Conditions" of such a monster (such as Level Modulation)

[.codex]

This is correct.  Habakiri sets its attack equal to a value (in this case, it becomes equal to 2x its original attack).  All previous instances of ATK/DEF modifications would be overridden when setting a value equal to something (and any Continuous modifications will then be applied over the set value).  When Habakiri wears off, Susanoo will have its original ATK

So, if I increased it's ATK with Tenki, then it would also go back to it's original? I don't think I understand that really.

[The Warden]

What he means is this: Habakiri specifically states that it doubles Susano'os ATK to double its original, which is 4800. Then, it returns back to the original ATK (as in, before he was reduced by Great Tornado). As such, the reduction caused by Great Tornado is removed because of how Habakiri is worded. Tenki won't remove the ATK loss because it's a static increase that has no weight on original ATK.

[.codex]

What he means is this: Habakiri specifically states that it doubles Susano'os ATK to double its original, which is 4800. Then, it returns back to the original ATK (as in, before he was reduced by Great Tornado). As such, the reduction caused by Great Tornado is removed because of how Habakiri is worded. Tenki won't remove the ATK loss because it's a static increase that has no weight on original ATK.

Oh so if it changes it to something that mentions it's original, it will also return to it's original? I gotcha.

[darkwolf777]

So, if I increased it's ATK with Tenki, then it would also go back to it's original? I don't think I understand that really.

 

Look at the words you're using.

 

You said "Increase".

 

Habakiri does not increase the attack of anything.  The attack "becomes" a specified value, making it a new unmodified value.

[.codex]

Look at the words you're using.

 

You said "Increase".

 

Habakiri does not increase the attack of anything.  The attack "becomes" a specified value, making it a new unmodified value.

Oh sorry, I didn't know there was a difference. I do now. Thanks for the help anyways.

[Zazubat]

So I am confused on how you annouce something when you have a choice. Do I have to say that I want to add a card to my hand with Susano'o, or do I not since that is stated during resolution?

[darkwolf777]

So I am confused on how you annouce something when you have a choice. Do I have to say that I want to add a card to my hand with Susano'o, or do I not since that is stated during resolution?

 

I do not understand what you're referring to and therefore do not understand your question.

 

You do not mention which you will be applying until the resolution of Susano-o, not that it makes a difference since both require you looking through the Deck.  Still I don't understand what you're referring to at the beginning of your question.

[Zazubat]

I do not understand what you're referring to and therefore do not understand your question.

 

You do not mention which you will be applying until the resolution of Susano-o, not that it makes a difference since both require you looking through the Deck.  Still I don't understand what you're referring to at the beginning of your question.

Well, don't you have to say which you choose? I mean, you mean take ths CC: "You can target 1 monster in your Graveyard, or 1 monster your opponent controls; etc." Now that's before resolution, so my guess is that you need to annouce that you pick either or, but in the case of Yamato it's after, so I would think that you wouldn't do that until resolution.

[darkwolf777]

Well, don't you have to say which you choose? I mean, you mean take ths CC: "You can target 1 monster in your Graveyard, or 1 monster your opponent controls; etc." Now that's before resolution, so my guess is that you need to annouce that you pick either or, but in the case of Yamato it's after, so I would think that you wouldn't do that until resolution.

 

The activation procedure is to remove 1 XYZ Material and nothing else (the section before the semicolon).  You do nothing at activation other than that  The card does not say after the cost to "activate one of the following effects:"

 

The choice of effects is still ONE effect.  It is not a selection between two different effects.  You do not have to make it apparent which you are going to do.

 

A card like "Elemental Hero Stratos" is a card in which you choose one of two effects to activate.

[Zazubat]

Alright, I guess I should stop mentioning which I choose to people then.

[.codex]

Since I am running these, can I activate Vanity's Emptiness during the Damage Step, and what happens if a monster equipped with Horn of the Phantom Beast is targeted by something like Forbidden Lance?

[Zazubat]

Since I am running these, can I activate Vanity's Emptiness during the Damage Step, and what happens if a monster equipped with Horn of the Phantom Beast is targeted by something like Forbidden Lance?

I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that you cannot activate Vanity during the Damage Step, because it doens't directly negate anything.

Also, I think it would lose it's target, and then Phantom would be sent to the Graveyard since it doesn't have one anymore.

[newhat]

Since I am running these, can I activate Vanity's Emptiness during the Damage Step, and what happens if a monster equipped with Horn of the Phantom Beast is targeted by something like Forbidden Lance?

 

Emptiness cannot be activated because it does not modify ATK/DEF or anything else that would allow it in the Damage Step.

 

Horn remains equipped. The monster gains no ATK, but you will still draw if it kills a monster.

 

A card like "Elemental Hero Stratos" is a card in which you choose one of two effects to activate.

 

Wait. So for Stratos, do you have to declare which effect you're using on activation?

[Resident Fascist]

Madolche Chateau is on the field. Madolche with lower than 1500ATK is in hand. Opponent flips over Deck Devestation Virus. What happens? Do Madolches shuffle back even when destroyed in the hand? Since it's technicially in your posession?

[Zazubat]

Madolche Chateau is on the field. Madolche with lower than 1500ATK is in hand. Opponent flips over Deck Devestation Virus. What happens? Do Madolches shuffle back even when destroyed in the hand? Since it's technicially in your posession?

Short answer, yes. Longer answer, posession talks about everywhere (except the banished zone and Deck if I remember correctly), so if it's destroyed on the field, hand or even Graveyard (if any card does that, what the heck do I know), it will be able to activate.

[Resident Fascist]

Short answer, yes. Longer answer, posession talks about everywhere (except the banished zone and Deck if I remember correctly), so if it's destroyed on the field, hand or even Graveyard (if any card does that, what the heck do I know), it will be able to activate.

 

so basicially. it gets destroyed, chateau tries to add it back, deck dev realises there's a 1500> monster, destroys it again, loop infinite?