Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

Okay I have 2 questions that are bugging me.

 

If my opp. declares an atk & I use compulse, if say he negates it with Shien, can I chain with mirror force?

 

At resolution of Madolche Tieramisu eff. can my opp. chain to it?

 

1) yes, you can respond to shi en with mirror force

2) no, cards cannot interrupt the resolution of another effect. if they chain to tiaramisu they must chain to her initial activation, meaning that if you still resolve her you can select other cards to bounce.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

1) yes, you can respond to shi en with mirror force

2) no, cards cannot interrupt the resolution of another effect. if they chain to tiaramisu they must chain to her initial activation, meaning that if you still resolve her you can select other cards to bounce.

1.Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure about that. Thank you Miror & Clair.

2. I thought so, might have been able to win the duel then if I had pointed it out. Now I know.

 

Thanks guys. :)

[Zazubat]

He can chain Mirror Force to Shi En. It's still in response to the attack as the whole chain is in response to the attack.

If it's still in a chain, yes, if the chain resolved, no.

 

Also, is anybody gonna answer my previous questions?

[newhat]

Is it right that I have to go through every single phase, and can't just directly jump to the End Phase after Main Phase 1? Can I also jump from Standby Phase to End Phase, or do I have to go to Main Phase first?

 

You cannot go straight from Standby to End, but you can go straight from Main 1 to End. Nothing compels you to conduct your Battle Phase and there's no Main Phase 2 without it.

 

So, I have Yamato out, and it's the End Phase, my opponent chooses to activate a card that would destroy it, but is it me that is first so I can activate Yamato's effect before the destroy?

 

It depends whose End Phase it is and whether their effect is Optional or Mandatory...I think.

[Zazubat]

You cannot go straight from Standby to End, but you can go straight from Main 1 to End. Nothing compels you to conduct your Battle Phase and there's no Main Phase 2 without it.

 

 

It depends whose End Phase it is and whether their effect is Optional or Mandatory...I think.

Yamato can only activate during your own, so it's obviously my own. It was a card activations, not anything mandatory.

[.codex]

I have always been kind of confused, at what point is the effect of cards like Unicorn Spear (yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ZW_-_Unicorn_Spear) applied?

[Kingdom Xathers]

If there is a face-up Rivalry of the Warlords on the field while there is a monster on the field that is treated as having two Types, what will happen?

[Zazubat]

If there is a face-up Rivalry of the Warlords on the field while there is a monster on the field that is treated as having two Types, what will happen?

According to Gozen Match's rules, LADD will be sent to the Graveyard, and I assume the same goes for types.

 

Oh, and my question still stands: I have Yamato out, and it's the End Phase, my opponent chooses to activate a card (not an opitional/mandatory effect, but activating a Trap Card, I can't remember what it's called, but it's the one that Tributes 1 Winged-Beast to destroy 2 cards I think) that would destroy it, but is it me that is first so I can activate Yamato's effect before the destroy?

[darkwolf777]

Is it right that I have to go through every single phase, and can't just directly jump to the End Phase after Main Phase 1? Can I also jump from Standby Phase to End Phase, or do I have to go to Main Phase first?

 

So, I have Yamato out, and it's the End Phase, my opponent chooses to activate a card that would destroy it, but is it me that is first so I can activate Yamato's effect before the destroy?

 

If you do not have a Battle Phase, your turn will go from the Main Phase to the End Phase.  Your Standby Phase goes into the Main Phase 1; you cannot choose otherwise.

 

Assuming they didn't choose to activate the card before the End Phase began (such as when you gave priority to them when you ended the previous phase), then you as the turn player has the right to activate an effect or give up priority to the opponent so that they can.  You can activate Yamato first before your opponent can respond. 

 

Understand that the opponent's cannot activate cards until priority is given to them, by either activating a card yourself or declaring you will not do anything (including when you choose to do nothing in order to try and continue into the next phase)

 

I have always been kind of confused, at what point is the effect of cards like Unicorn Spear (yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ZW_-_Unicorn_Spear) applied?

 

The negation of ZW - Unicorn Spear will begin as soon as the attack is declared.

[.codex]

The negation of ZW - Unicorn Spear will begin as soon as the attack is declared.

So it's the same as declaring an attack?

[Zazubat]

If you do not have a Battle Phase, your turn will go from the Main Phase to the End Phase.  Your Standby Phase goes into the Main Phase 1; you cannot choose otherwise.

 

Assuming they didn't choose to activate the card before the End Phase began (such as when you gave priority to them when you ended the previous phase), then you as the turn player has the right to activate an effect or give up priority to the opponent so that they can.  You can activate Yamato first before your opponent can respond. 

 

Understand that the opponent's cannot activate cards until priority is given to them, by either activating a card yourself or declaring you will not do anything (including when you choose to do nothing in order to try and continue into the next phase)

So what you're saying is that Icarus Attack (that was the card he used, just found it) would not be able to be activated before I could use Yamato, and that when my opponent said that he was using it MP2, then that was false because I went directly into the End Phase after M1, and I had priority for activate cards. And I assume that this would not apply if there were any trigger effects correct? Then he would be able to Chain them their if he wished to do that, before I could activate Yamato.

[darkwolf777]

Well, as I said, you would've passed him priority in the Main Phase 1 when you wanted to go from Main Phase 1 to the End Phase.  He could activate it during Main Phase 1.  He can't activate it during Main Phase 2 because you didn't have one, but probably doesn't know any better that there is no MP2 if you end straight from MP1.  You do have to announce that you will be doing nothing and giving priority before changing phases to give your opponent the opportunity to activate cards if he wishes.  Phases can only change when both players pass priority.  Once the End Phase begins, then you have priority.  You can activate a card before he can.

 

 

So it's the same as declaring an attack?

 

 

 

Its a Continuous Effect.  It doesn't activate.  The effect is applied as soon as you declare an attack on an opponent's monster.

[Zazubat]

Well, as I said, you would've passed him priority in the Main Phase 1 when you wanted to go from Main Phase 1 to the End Phase.  He could activate it during Main Phase 1.  He can't activate it during Main Phase 2 because you didn't have one.  You do have to announce that you will be doing nothing and giving priority before changing phases to give your opponent the opportunity to activate cards if he wishes.  Phases can only change when both players pass priority.

This didnt't really answer my question about the trigger effects though. I know this, but what I'm asking is that I choose to go to the End Phase from Main 1, my opponent says okay, and I choose to activate that first because I have priority now. But, what about triggers? What will happen with them? Will they go first, and allow my opponent to use his Icarus Attack in that chain so I wouldn't have the chance to use Yamato?

 

Oh, and something I always forget: "Until the End Phase" means that it shuts off when you go into the End Phase, or is it one of those you choose when it happens? I always forget that.

[.codex]

I keep hearing that "you can only activatethis effect of "name" once per turn" and "you can only use this effect of "name" once per turn". What's the difference?

[Blake]

I keep hearing that "you can only activatethis effect of "name" once per turn" and "you can only use this effect of "name" once per turn". What's the difference?

The first one applies to cards with only 1 effect that can be activated. The latter is a card with multiple effects that can be activated, but only one is restricted.

[Zazubat]

The first one applies to cards with only 1 effect that can be activated. The latter is a card with multiple effects that can be activated, but only one is restricted.

There's also a thing about negating isn't there? I forgot how that works, but I think that if you negate an "activate" you're able to activate it again, but not for "use". Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Mysty]

I keep hearing that "you can only activatethis effect of "name" once per turn" and "you can only use this effect of "name" once per turn". What's the difference?

 

For the "you can only activate" condition, if the effect's activation is negated (i.e. Divine Wrath), you are allowed to activate the effect again that turn. Note this doesn't apply if only the effect is negated.

 

For "you can only use", you can only attempt to activate the effect once. Even if the effect or effect's activation is negated, you can't activate it anymore that turn.

[Zazubat]

 

For the "you can only activate" condition, if the effect's activation is negated (i.e. Divine Wrath), you are allowed to activate the effect again that turn. Note this doesn't apply if only the effect is negated.

 

For "you can only use", you can only attempt to activate the effect once. Even if the effect or effect's activation is negated, you can't activate it anymore that turn.

Oh that's something that I didn't know, I thought that if the effect/activation was negated, it applied the same for both. Also, still wondering about this:

 

This didnt't really answer my question about the trigger effects though. I know this, but what I'm asking is that I choose to go to the End Phase from Main 1, my opponent says okay, and I choose to activate that first because I have priority now. But, what about triggers? What will happen with them? Will they go first, and allow my opponent to use his Icarus Attack in that chain so I wouldn't have the chance to use Yamato?

 

& this:

 

Oh, and something I always forget: "Until the End Phase" means that it shuts off when you go into the End Phase, or is it one of those you choose when it happens? I always forget that.

[darkwolf777]

This didnt't really answer my question about the trigger effects though. I know this, but what I'm asking is that I choose to go to the End Phase from Main 1, my opponent says okay, and I choose to activate that first because I have priority now. But, what about triggers? What will happen with them? Will they go first, and allow my opponent to use his Icarus Attack in that chain so I wouldn't have the chance to use Yamato?

 

Oh, and something I always forget: "Until the End Phase" means that it shuts off when you go into the End Phase, or is it one of those you choose when it happens? I always forget that.

 

The answer does tell you about Trigger Effects because that's what the answer entails, as you asked about Bujin - Yamato's Trigger Effect. 

 

When a card's trigger is during a PERIOD OF TIME (such as the timing "during the End Phase") then it can be activated at any time during the End Phase in any order, regardless of optional or mandatory triggers.  You don't even have to activate one of the trigger effects first and can activate any non-trigger effect at your leisure.

 

I don't know why you're bringing up Icarus Attack; its not a trigger effect.

 

 

I keep hearing that "you can only activatethis effect of "name" once per turn" and "you can only use this effect of "name" once per turn". What's the difference?

 

 

 

The difference is the words "activate" and "use".  Generally, a card that can only activate once per turn who has its activation negated (such as Pot of Duality) can activate again that turn since the original activation never happened (and therefore was activated 0 times this turn).  A card that can only be used once per turn will only get you once chance, whether its activation is negated or not.

[Zazubat]

The answer does tell you about Trigger Effects because that's what the answer entails, as you asked about Bujin - Yamato's Trigger Effect.  When a card's trigger is during a PERIOD OF TIME (such as the timing "during the End Phase") then it can be activated at any time during the End Phase.

 

I don't know why you're bringing up Icarus Attack, its not a trigger effect.

I bring it up because if there was a Trigger effect that activated, then wouldn't my opponent be able to Chain something to that before I could use Yamato? I also didn't know that his effect was like that, I thought that such effects where kinda like a Ignition thing, but I guess that's not how it works in the End Phase. But if there was a Mandatory effect, then my opponent would be able to Chain Icarus Attack to that, and destroy my Yamato before I can activate his effect right?

[darkwolf777]

I bring it up because if there was a Trigger effect that activated, then wouldn't my opponent be able to Chain something to that before I could use Yamato? I also didn't know that his effect was like that, I thought that such effects where kinda like a Ignition thing, but I guess that's not how it works in the End Phase. But if there was a Mandatory effect, then my opponent would be able to Chain Icarus Attack to that, and destroy my Yamato before I can activate his effect right?

 

If you just entered your End Phase, you have priority.  That's it.  You can activate whatever effect you like or pass priority to let your opponent activate the effect.  You can activate Yamato.  You can activate another card.  You can choose to pass priority.  Those are your options.  As I already mentioned also, being Mandatory or Optional does not make a difference here; when you activate your effects whose timing is "during the End Phase/Standby Phase/End of the Battle Step" is up to your choosing.

 

As I already said, Trigger Effects whose timing is a period of time can be activated at any time during that period of time at your choosing.  They are not forced to activate as soon as the Phase starts.

 

If that doesn't answer it, then I have no idea what you're asking because it means you're misunderstanding something i've already explained twice.

[Zazubat]

If you just entered your End Phase, you have priority.  That's it.  You can activate whatever effect you like or pass priority to let your opponent activate the effect.  You can activate Yamato.  You can activate another card.  You can choose to pass priority.  Those are your options.

 

As I already said, Trigger Effects whose timing is a period of time can be activated at any time during that period of time at your choosing.  They are not forced to activate as soon as the Phase starts.

 

If that doesn't answer it, then I have no idea what you're asking because it means you're misunderstanding something i've already explained twice.

I might have misunderstood something about how mandatory and triggers work, as I thought that mandatory effects would go first always, but I guess not? Also, it wouldn't really matter, as I could just Chain Yamato's effect to that right or to when my opponent uses Icarus Attack?

[darkwolf777]

I might have misunderstood something about how mandatory and triggers work, as I thought that mandatory effects would go first always, but I guess not? Also, it wouldn't really matter, as I could just Chain Yamato's effect to that right or to when my opponent uses Icarus Attack?

 

In the event that I specifically specified in regards to "Trigger Effects who's Trigger is A PERIOD OF TIME", no, the order does not matter.  If the Trigger is a specific moment (such as "When you draw a card", "When this card is destroyed", etc) then simultaneous triggers follow SEGOC.

 

Yamato's effect is still a Trigger Effect and is Spell Speed 1.  It must be Chain Link #1.

[Zazubat]

In the event that I specifically specified in regards to "Trigger Effects who's Trigger is A PERIOD OF TIME", no, the order does not matter.  If the Trigger is a specific moment (such as "When you draw a card", "When this card is destroyed", etc) then simultaneous triggers follow SEGOC.

 

Yamato's effect is still a Trigger Effect and is Spell Speed 1.  It must be Chain Link #1.

In the event that I for some reason wanted to activate another Optional Trigger first, and then Yamato, would my opponent be able to activate Icarus Attack between those two? The reason why I'm asking all of this is because the End Phase rules always kinda confused me.

 

And also this again: Oh, and something I always forget: "Until the End Phase" means that it shuts off when you go into the End Phase, or is it one of those you choose when it happens? I always forget that.

[darkwolf777]

In the event that I for some reason wanted to activate another Optional Trigger first, and then Yamato, would my opponent be able to activate Icarus Attack between those two? The reason why I'm asking all of this is because the End Phase rules always kinda confused me.

 

And also this again: Oh, and something I always forget: "Until the End Phase" means that it shuts off when you go into the End Phase, or is it one of those you choose when it happens? I always forget that.

 

Because you activate these kinds of Trigger Effects at any time during the End Phase/Standby/etc, these trigger effects DO NOT chain together.  These kinds of Trigger Effects will all form their own chain and be Chain Link #1 in those chains.  SEGOC does not apply for these types of Triggers because they don't activate at the same time, just at some point during that period of time.

 

"Until the End Phase" will cause the effect to end at any time during the End Phase.  When you have priority, you would just announce that you're ending the effect.  You can only due this during the general priority, when nothing is being activated at the time.