Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Zazubat]

Does Dark Master - Zorc target with his dice roll 5 effect?

None of his effects seem to target anything, as it doesn't say targets.

[Aix]

None of his effects seem to target anything, as it doesn't say targets.

But it comes from before problem-solving text.

[Zazubat]

But it comes from before problem-solving text.

Targets where still around then Aix, when ever I'm travelling, I always play 2006 on my phone, and it has old texts, and some say targets even if they arn't using PSCT.

[Aix]

Targets where still around then Aix, when ever I'm travelling, I always play 2006 on my phone, and it has old texts, and some say targets even if they arn't using PSCT.

Yeah, but some don't say target, but they actually do. An example would be Faustian Bargain.

[Zazubat]

Yeah, but some don't say target, but they actually do. An example would be Faustian Bargain.

There doesn't seem to be any Rulings that say that it targets, so who knows, that said, destroy effects target less than others really, so I'm quite sure that it doesn't.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Are there times when Debunk will not banish the target (other than if an effect blatantly states otherwise or Debunk is negated), or does YGOPro just have a bug? Because I've used the card a bit, and on three occasions the opponent's card didn't get banished, just went to the grave.

[newhat]

Does Dark Master - Zorc target with his dice roll 5 effect?

Dark Master - Zorc does not target with any of his effects. He was reprinted in a Legendary Collection, no?

 

 

Are there times when Debunk will not banish the target (other than if an effect blatantly states otherwise or Debunk is negated), or does YGOPro just have a bug? Because I've used the card a bit, and on three occasions the opponent's card didn't get banished, just went to the grave.

That is strange.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

ygopro almost certainly has a bug. unless there is an effect in play which specifically states otherwise (imperial iron wall) debunk will banish the card it negates

[Zazubat]

Are there times when Debunk will not banish the target (other than if an effect blatantly states otherwise or Debunk is negated), or does YGOPro just have a bug? Because I've used the card a bit, and on three occasions the opponent's card didn't get banished, just went to the grave.

I wish you gave an example of which card you used, cause I might have an idea as to why.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I wish you gave an example of which card you used, cause I might have an idea as to why.

From what I remember, the three situations were when my opponent tried to summon Priestess, when my opponent tried to use the effect of an Atlantean, and Gorz.

[Zazubat]

From what I remember, the three situations were when my opponent tried to summon Priestess, when my opponent tried to use the effect of an Atlantean, and Gorz.

That's what I thought, at least for Priestess and Gorz, but for the Atlantean, I don't know, unless the one you're refering to was Marksman, in which case I think I know the problem. I think YGOpro thinks that they activate on the field, as the try to get something on the field, you know what I mean?

[Miror B]

That's what I thought, at least for Priestess and Gorz, but for the Atlantean, I don't know, unless the one you're refering to was Marksman, in which case I think I know the problem. I think YGOpro thinks that they activate on the field, as the try to get something on the field, you know what I mean?

Even then there's no explanation for Priestess and Gorz :/

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

the explanation is that its a program with unfortunate glitches, like most programs.

[Kingdom Xathers]

I've a question concerning the Fascinating Fiends and D.D. Trap Hole: If the only monsters you control are Fascinating Fiends, can you activate D.D. Trap Hole when your opponent Sets a monster?

[evilfusion]

I've a question concerning the Fascinating Fiends and D.D. Trap Hole: If the only monsters you control are Fascinating Fiends, can you activate D.D. Trap Hole when your opponent Sets a monster?

 

From my understanding, yes. Based on Wildheart's rulings, you may still select Wildheart to be affected by Traps, but nothing will happen to Wildheart. The Fascinating Fiends are likewise immune to D.D. Trap Hole, which targets your monster and the opponent's.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

the problem with d.d. trap hole is that its from before psct. i would actually argue the opposite due to an upper deck ruling stating that if one of the monsters targeted by d.d. trap hole is banished before resolution the effect fizzles, much like modern cards that check valid targets at resolution. whoops silly me. thinking on it some more it should work, though its tricky and considering how mediocre d.d. trap hole is ive personally dodged the issue entirely by just not running it.

[Judαs]

the explanation is that its a program with unfortunate glitches, like most programs.

Which is awkward, because there is lot of speculation about whether YGOPro blatantly used YGO Online 3's source code, and at least Gorz was already programmed in, so it should work perfectly.

 

Do you have a replay of it? If you do you should post the bug at ygopro.co so that the folks can fix it.

 

Does Dark Master - Zorc target with his dice roll 5 effect?

No. If i'm correct, Dice are rolled at resolution, at least according to Number 7: Lucky Straight which follows PSCT

[Zazubat]

I was thinking, would my CC's effect trigger on it's own Summon? "Each time a monster(s) is Summoned: Increase this card’s Level by 1 for each of those monsters." Also, if not, would I make it able to do as such?

[evilfusion]

Dice and coins are always rolled/flipped at resolution. This is why Stardust can't stop Snipe Hunter (unknown if target will be destroyed), but can stop Zorc (all results destroy a card).

[Miror B]

I was thinking, would my CC's effect trigger on it's own Summon? "Each time a monster(s) is Summoned: Increase this card’s Level by 1 for each of those monsters." Also, if not, would I make it able to do as such?

No for the same reason T.G. Librarian doesn't draw for itself.

You'd say "including this monster" I guess, though idk why you would.

[-Berserker-]

I normal summon summoner monk. My opponent may use his set Pulling the Rug. I don't have at any moment a window of oportunity to summon my Kagetokage, right?

When Monk activates it's effect that changes it to defense, I have to wait for my opponent to respond before I try to chain Kage, and if he uses pulling, Kage will not be able to chain to that because of it's not speed spell 3. By the time Pulling resolves I have already lost my chance to activate Kagetokage, right?

[Miror B]

I normal summon summoner monk. My opponent may use his set Pulling the Rug. I don't have at any moment a window of oportunity to summon my Kagetokage, right?

When Monk activates it's effect that changes it to defense, I have to wait for my opponent to respond before I try to chain Kage, and if he uses pulling, Kage will not be able to chain to that because of it's not speed spell 3. By the time Pulling resolves I have already lost my chance to activate Kagetokage, right?

Wrong. Kage is a trigger effect and will SEGOC with Summoner Monk, with Monk as CL1 because it's mandatory and Kage as CL2. Then the opponent can respond.

[newhat]

Let's see if I follow. Monk is Normal Summoned, and the game state is "when Summoner Monk is Normal Summoned".

Then, according to you, Summoner Monk's Mandatory Trigger Effect will activate,

and then Kagetokage can be added as Chain Link 2 before the Counter Trap, Pulling the Rug can be used,

so it could kill Kagetokage but would leave Summoner Monk untouched.

 

I guess I don't understand Trigger Effects.

[Miror B]

Let's see if I follow. Monk is Normal Summoned, and the game state is "when Summoner Monk is Normal Summoned".

Then, according to you, Summoner Monk's Mandatory Trigger Effect will activate,

and then Kagetokage can be added as Chain Link 2 before the Counter Trap, Pulling the Rug can be used,

so it could kill Kagetokage but would leave Summoner Monk untouched.

 

I guess I don't understand Trigger Effects.

This is exactly right. Trigger effects are always the first thing to go on if they meet the same trigger at the same time.

[Phantasy Dreamz]

Ok I need an explaination on Fiendish Chain

 

It negates the monster's effect while on the field, right?

 

So how does effects like Stardust's are able to override it?

 

Doesn't Chain not allow that monster to activate it's effect in the first place,

before that monster goes off the field?