Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[darkwolf777]

Cannot be Normal Summoned unless you control no Level 5 or higher monsters. When this card is Normal Summoned: You can target 1 monster with 0 DEF in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target, but its effects are negated. During the turn this effect is activated, you cannot Special Summon monsters, except from your Extra Deck.

 

Based on this current wording, would I be able to activate Kagetokage in response to its Summon + Effect?

 

I'd figure not, but I'm not 100%...

 

If you activate its effect, you cannot chain Kagetokage.

[Zazubat]

If I activate Roll Out! when my opponent attacks my monster, will it cause a re-play?

[Miror B]

If I activate Roll Out! when my opponent attacks my monster, will it cause a re-play?

No, the monsters on your side of the field have not changed.

[Phantasy Dreamz]

Can Steelswarm Roach's effect be activated in the dmg step?

 

ex: negate Groz's summon

[darkwolf777]

Can Steelswarm Roach's effect be activated in the dmg step?

 

ex: negate Groz's summon

 

You can't use Steelswarm Roach to negate Gorz in the first place.

 

There aren't any inherent summons that occur during the Damage Step.

[Phantasy Dreamz]

Abyss Dweller's effect does not nulify activation of effects, right?

 

Abyss Dweller's effect states that "effects that are activate in your opponent's Graveyard cannot be activated this turn"

 

But if Dweller's effect is chained to the activation of another card's effect from the Graveyard

 

Doesn't that mean that THAT effect is ALREADY activated, and Dweller's effect will only be in affect after that effect?

[Zazubat]

I think you might be right, as it doesnt negate anthing, but rather it prevents it from happening. I didnt find any good examples saying otherwise though, someone else gotta help me with that.

[newhat]

Abyss Dweller's effect does not nulify activation of effects, right?

 

Abyss Dweller's effect states that "effects that are activate in your opponent's Graveyard cannot be activated this turn"

 

But if Dweller's effect is chained to the activation of another card's effect from the Graveyard

 

Doesn't that mean that THAT effect is ALREADY activated, and Dweller's effect will only be in affect after that effect?

You are correct. For example, if your opponent activates Card Destruction, you must chain Dweller's effect to that Spell Card, before any cards are discarded or drawn, in order to prevent the effects of Dark World monsters your opponent might discard. Otherwise, a discarded Dark World monster will automatically activate as Chain Link 1 and chaining Dweller's effect to that won't prevent it.

[Zazubat]

So, Hero Blast can be activated even  when your opponent doesn't control any monsters. Why? Shouldn't it folllow "then" rules? It even got a realease after PSCT with the semi-colon and all. Am I misunderstanding how those rules work?

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

So, Hero Blast can be activated even  when your opponent doesn't control any monsters. Why? Shouldn't it folllow "then" rules? It even got a realease after PSCT with the semi-colon and all. Am I misunderstanding how those rules work?

 

it does follow 'then' rules. then states that a and b are not simultaneous, and that a is required for b but not the other way around. youre thinking of 'and'.

[Zazubat]

it does follow 'then' rules. then states that a and b are not simultaneous, and that a is required for b but not the other way around. youre thinking of 'and'.

I always thought that in order to activate an effect, you always had to do both in order to do it all for then, but after reading up it seems that you're right. Maybe I'm thinking of something else here.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

you cannot activate an effect if you know that you cannot resolve any of the mandatory parts of the effect. an effect with 'then' only states the first part is mandatory. so if you cannot return a normal hero monster in your grave to the hand you couldnt activate hero blast.

[Miror B]

So, Hero Blast can be activated even  when your opponent doesn't control any monsters. Why? Shouldn't it folllow "then" rules? It even got a realease after PSCT with the semi-colon and all. Am I misunderstanding how those rules work?

The second half of HERO Blast is an optional effect, just like Starlight. You don't need to be able to resolve the optional part to activate the effect.

[Zazubat]

The second half of HERO Blast is an optional effect, just like Starlight. You don't need to be able to resolve the optional part to activate the effect.

Hero Blast doesn't say "you can" in the last part, only then. So, then always makes it optional?

[Mysty]

Hero Blast doesn't say "you can" in the last part, only then. So, then always makes it optional?

 

No, it doesn't. If there is a monster on your opponent's side that fits the qualifications, you must destroy one of them.

 

Usually you can only activate cards if all their mandatory actions could be performed. The official ruling for Hero Blast and ZERO-MAX, however, is that you can activate them even if there are no monsters on the board. The reason might be that, since the destruction is based on a value determinable only by resolution (since it relies on ATK score), the activation of the card CAN'T rely on that part of the effect.

[Judαs]

Thunder King Rai-Oh questions:

 

#1: If my opponent controls a TKRO, and I equip Temperance with Power and kill it, will I get to add the Spellbook card in the Damage Step or is it still "on" field or something?

 

#2: If my opponent controls a TKRO, I can't activate effects that directly add card(s) (Like RotA, PoD) but can I activate a card that said something like "[random action], then add 1 "X" from your Deck to your hand." and the [random action] is applied when it resolves (but I don't get to add.)?

#2.1: Consider hypothetical card "Target 1 face-up monster; Negate its effect(s), then you can add [X] from your Deck to your hand.". Could I activate/resolve it correctly if I targeted TKRO?

[Zazubat]

I can answer question 1, but 2 I am not so sure about. It's not still on the field, as the effect which activates when you destroy it by battle is happening at the same time as sending it to the Graveyard, so you do get to add your card.

[ihop]

Thunder King Rai-Oh questions:

 

#1: If my opponent controls a TKRO, and I equip Temperance with Power and kill it, will I get to add the Spellbook card in the Damage Step or is it still "on" field or something?

 

#2: If my opponent controls a TKRO, I can't activate effects that directly add card(s) (Like RotA, PoD) but can I activate a card that said something like "[random action], then add 1 "X" from your Deck to your hand." and the [random action] is applied when it resolves (but I don't get to add.)?

#2.1: Consider hypothetical card "Target 1 face-up monster; Negate its effect(s), then you can add [X] from your Deck to your hand.". Could I activate/resolve it correctly if I targeted TKRO?

 

1- I had it ruled that if Marksman beats over Fossil Dyna you get a summon so I assume it's similar and you do get a search. 

 

2- If it says "then, you can" you can, but if it says "and" you can't. I don't think you can if it says "then"

2-1 It'd have to say "and if you do" I believe.

[Judαs]

Ah, thanks.

 

It makes more sense to word it as "and if you do" then.

 

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edit: Wait I'm still kind of foggy. What if it was mandatory: "...negate its effect(s), and if you do, add [blah] from your Deck to your hand."

 

Could I ACTIVATE this with TKRO on the field?

[ihop]

Yes, because the effect will only happen if it is successfully negated, in which case the effect can be activated.

[Zazubat]

Ah, thanks.

 

It makes more sense to word it as "and if you do" then.

 

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edit: Wait I'm still kind of foggy. What if it was mandatory: "...negate its effect(s), and if you do, add [blah] from your Deck to your hand."

 

Could I ACTIVATE this with TKRO on the field?

From my understanding, "and if you do" happens at the same time, but you only need to do A, B is optional if you can do it. Since they happen at the same time and resolve at the same time, you cannot add the card as you negate at the same time, not before. I'm reading off this, but it's not the best explanation I feel as I can't seem to find anything that talks about, "what if your effect would negate the effect that prevents it from happening?" anywhere. http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=4514

[newhat]

I would assume it doesn't work based on the interaction between Bottomless Trap Hole and Chaos Hunter.

[Zazubat]

I would assume it doesn't work based on the interaction between Bottomless Trap Hole and Chaos Hunter.

Though, BTH is not set up in a "and if you do" "also" etc. but it might work the same as for that, but I really wish there was a clearer example as I'm still kinda lost in all this.

[ihop]

I would assume it doesn't work based on the interaction between Bottomless Trap Hole and Chaos Hunter.

 

Bottomless's effects rely on eachother, and both have to be able to be resolved for you to activate it, therefore if you either can't destroy cards or can't banish cards you can't activate it. The same goes for Gemini Spark under Droll and Lock Bird.

 

If it says "and if you do" I think you can because it's not a mandatory effect.

 

Possibly it's have to say "and if you do, you can"

[Aix]

Does Dark Master - Zorc target with his dice roll 5 effect?