Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[evilfusion]

All right. I double-checked the text. It will work as I described. It can activate if removed from the Field by battle or by card effect, but it can miss the timing like Naturia Cliff does. If Tributed, or if the effect that removed it from the Field is not the last effect to resolve in the chain, it will miss the timing.

[Aix]

If I made a custom card that said: "While you control no Spell/Trap Cards, this card cannot be destroyed by card effects." Could I destroy it with my own Dark Hole?

[evilfusion]

If I made a custom card that said: "While you control no Spell/Trap Cards, this card cannot be destroyed by card effects." Could I destroy it with my own Dark Hole?

 

Yes, (assuming the custom card is a monster), your monster will be destroyed because you control a Spell Card (Dark Hole itself).

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but if you flip a monster summoned by Rescue Rabbit face-down, is it still destroyed during the End Phase?

[evilfusion]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but if you flip a monster summoned by Rescue Rabbit face-down, is it still destroyed during the End Phase?

 

No. The Summoned monsters must still be faceup monsters during the End Phase. Flipping them facedown or removing them from the Field, even temporarily, removes the condition placed upon them.

[Zazubat]

If I use Harmonic Waves, is that monsters Level still Level 4 in the Graveyard?

[Synchronized]

No. The Summoned monsters must still be faceup monsters during the End Phase. Flipping them facedown or removing them from the Field, even temporarily, removes the condition placed upon them.

 

Does this apply to Mind Control?

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

If I use Harmonic Waves, is that monsters Level still Level 4 in the Graveyard?

To my knowledge, there are no effects that apply on the field or hand that translate to the grave or banished zone. So, in short, no.

[evilfusion]

If I use Harmonic Waves, is that monsters Level still Level 4 in the Graveyard?

 

No. When the affected monster is flipped facedown or removed from the Field, its Level reverts to normal.

 

 

 

Does this apply to Mind Control?

 

No. Temporary control effects will still wear off at the proper time, even if the monster is flipped facedown or removed temporarily from the Field (such as Galaxy-Eyes or Interdimensional Matter Transporter).

[newhat]

To my knowledge, there are no effects that apply on the field or hand that translate to the grave or banished zone.

 

Does that include ZW - Unicorn Spear? If the equipped monster destroys Giant Rat by battle, for instance? I'm not sure.

[evilfusion]

Does that include ZW - Unicorn Spear? If the equipped monster destroys Giant Rat by battle, for instance? I'm not sure.

 

In the case of ZW- Unicorn Spear, it negates the effects of the battled monster during the Battle Phase. This should include effects that activate in the Graveyard during the Battle Phase. This is because it specifies when the effects are negated (during the Battle Phase as a whole) and doesn't say the battled monster must be faceup.

 

Otherwise, effects that alter stats or negate effects will wear off when the monster leaves the Field or is no longer faceup.

[Zazubat]

I got this custom effect:

"You can target face-down monster your opponent controls; flip it face-up, and destroy 1 other monster on the field".

If that monster has an effect that activates apon flipping, it will miss the timing right?

[evilfusion]

I got this custom effect:

"You can target face-down monster your opponent controls; flip it face-up, and destroy 1 other monster on the field".

If that monster has an effect that activates apon flipping, it will miss the timing right?

 

No, as flipping the monster and destroying another one is happening simultaneously, indicated by the use of the word "and". To make the actions occur in sequence, it should say "Flip the target faceup, then destroy 1 other monster on the Field".

 

And if it says that, it depends on the effect. If the flipped monster has an optional effect that activates when it flips, then it would miss the timing. Most, if not all, Flip Effects are mandatory.

[Zazubat]

No, as flipping the monster and destroying another one is happening simultaneously, indicated by the use of the word "and". To make the actions occur in sequence, it should say "Flip the target faceup, then destroy 1 other monster on the Field".

 

And if it says that, it depends on the effect. If the flipped monster has an optional effect that activates when it flips, then it would miss the timing. Most, if not all, Flip Effects are mandatory.

It will create a new chain right? Even if my effect was a Chain Link 2 or something.

[evilfusion]

Yes, if it was a mandatory effect being Triggered, it will activate once the current chain has finished resolved.

[Zazubat]

Yes, if it was a mandatory effect being Triggered, it will activate once the current chain has finished resolved.

Okay thanks, I always thought that it's not possible to create a new chain in the middle of resolution, so I needed to clarify that.

[Zazubat]

Hold it right there! According to this ruling: If at the time of the resolution of the effect "Number C39: Utopia Ray" is not face-up, neither effect is applied. Also, if at the time of the resolution of the effect the opponent controls no face-up monsters, the effect to increase the ATK of "Number C39: Utopia Ray" is still applied, but the effect to reduce the ATK of the opponent's monster is not applied.

 

BUT!: In "Do A and B". Both A and B happen at the same time. BOTH A and B are required. If you cannot do both, then you do nothing

 

Utopia Ray's effect: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; it gains 500 ATK and 1 monster your opponent controls loses 1000 ATK, until the End Phase.

 

I wish I could go to the page where this ruling was found, but it doesn't seem to excist. Can anybody explain this!

[newhat]

On a related note, can you use C39's effect if your opponent controls no monsters?

[Zazubat]

On a related note, can you use C39's effect if your opponent controls no monsters?

See that's the problem with that ruling, you shouldn't be able to as the "and" rules state that you must be able to do both otherwise you can't do either. If this was an also effect, you could do what ever you want to. Unless I'm getting my infomation wrong. In that case *flips table*

[X-Metaman]

Hold it right there! According to this ruling: If at the time of the resolution of the effect "Number C39: Utopia Ray" is not face-up, neither effect is applied. Also, if at the time of the resolution of the effect the opponent controls no face-up monsters, the effect to increase the ATK of "Number C39: Utopia Ray" is still applied, but the effect to reduce the ATK of the opponent's monster is not applied.

 

BUT!: In "Do A and B". Both A and B happen at the same time. BOTH A and B are required. If you cannot do both, then you do nothing

 

Utopia Ray's effect: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; it gains 500 ATK and 1 monster your opponent controls loses 1000 ATK, until the End Phase.

 

I wish I could go to the page where this ruling was found, but it doesn't seem to excist. Can anybody explain this!

 

"Number C39: Utopia Ray" was released before they start to make the difference between 'and','and if you do', 'then' ,etc...

For example "Number 96" from the same set has updated its text  from 'and' to 'and if you do'. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Errata:Number_96:_Dark_Mist

 

Utopia Ray will probably have it text updated when it is reprinted on Starter Deck 2013.

[Zazubat]

That seems to be the most logical reason why that ruling would be like that. Though that is quite annoying considering there's no real way to tell the difference.

[ihop]

The way I see it it needs to be able to resolve both parts of its effect so if your opponent does not control a monster you cannot even attempt to detatch a material because it knows the effect cannot be resolved. If something is chained to the activation of Utopia Ray that means your opponent no longer has a monster but just had one, I do believe that seeing as the effect can no longer be successfully resolved it will fizzle. I'm fairly sure it's the same ruling as Creature Swap.

[evilfusion]

To activate, there must be a faceup monster on the opponent's Field. If the effect is activated, but the opposing monster(s) vanishes before resolution or goes facedown, Utopia Ray still gains 500, but nothing happens to the opposing monster. Since the "decrease 1000" doesn't target, any faceup opponent monster can be chosen to lose ATK.

[ihop]

To activate, there must be a faceup monster on the opponent's Field. If the effect is activated, but the opposing monster(s) vanishes before resolution or goes facedown, Utopia Ray still gains 500, but nothing happens to the opposing monster. Since the "decrease 1000" doesn't target, any faceup opponent monster can be chosen to lose ATK.

 

But I thought you couldn't resolve part of the effect and had to resolve the full effect or it would fizzle.

[evilfusion]

But I thought you couldn't resolve part of the effect and had to resolve the full effect or it would fizzle.

 

It's ruled in the OCG that it would still increase Utopia Ray. So my bet is that the PSCT changed subtly since Utopia Ray was printed and they actually mean to have it say "and if you do".