Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Sleepy]

you mean Evil right?

 

Anyways got a question, when a monster is tribute (either for a summon or card effect) is it considered destroyed?

No. Being Tributed is one thing, being destroyed is another, being used for a Synchro/Fusion Summon is another.

Ritual Spells Tribute as part of the card's effect rather than the cost, but it's still just Tributing.

[Zazubat]

No. Being Tributed is one thing, being destroyed is another, being used for a Synchro/Fusion Summon is another.

Ritual Spells Tribute as part of the card's effect rather than the cost, but it's still just Tributing.

Ah, that means that what I'm writing on this card isn't that silly again (having both destroy and tribute). Thank you :D

[Mysty]

While this isn't the right place to ask the question, I don't know where to ask it:
If I were to post the rules to my Deck Master format on the YCM for review, which subforum would be the best one to post it?

[Aix]

While this isn't the right place to ask the question, I don't know where to ask it:

If I were to post the rules to my Deck Master format on the YCM for review, which subforum would be the best one to post it?

Tournaments, that's where Chance's Format is.

[darkwolf777]

Darkwolf answered: No

 

Darkwolf didn't answer that question :p

[Miror B]

Darkwolf didn't answer that question :P

One of you's a mod.

The other's a ruling guru.

I get confused ok? :s

[evilfusion]

One of you's a mod.

The other's a ruling guru.

I get confused ok? :s

 

Blasphemy! I'm a mod and a ruling guru who learned most everything FROM Darkwolf!

[Zazubat]

"When this card is flipped face-up" applies to both being attack, flipped up by an effect and manually do it right?

[darkwolf777]

"When this card is flipped face-up" applies to both being attack, flipped up by an effect and manually do it right?

 

It applies to anything that would cause a card to go from face-down on the field to face-up on the field, so yes.  It's a very generic condition.

[Zazubat]

It applies to anything that would cause a card to go from face-down on the field to face-up on the field, so yes.  Its the very generic condition.

I always just forget the simplest things such as Xyz Materials if detach will activate effects. My memory can't take all these rules dude. Anyways thanks.

[darkwolf777]

Welcome to Yugioh.  A land where very little is explained about its core mechanics and must be learned through rulings put out officially (which are then still incorrect from its original intention in the TCG sometimes)

[Aerion Brightflame]

If I control Black Garden, and then Normal Summon Twilight Rose Knight, does Black Garden cause Rose Knight to miss the timing for its effect?

[Zazubat]

If I control Black Garden, and then Normal Summon Twilight Rose Knight, does Black Garden cause Rose Knight to miss the timing for its effect?

I think it should, as it's a "When you can" though I don't know how it works when the other is a mandatory effect though. Not sure if that matters or not.

[darkwolf777]

If I control Black Garden, and then Normal Summon Twilight Rose Knight, does Black Garden cause Rose Knight to miss the timing for its effect?

 

They are both Trigger Effects with the same timing.  Black Garden will be Chain Link #1.  You can activate Twilight Rose Knight as Chain Link #2.

[Zazubat]

 

They are both Trigger Effects with the same timing.  Black Garden will be Chain Link #1.  You can activate Twilight Rose Knight as Chain Link #2.

If my opponent wants to activate a card at this time, when will that happen? Also what happens if that card is mandatory?

[darkwolf777]

If my opponent wants to activate a card at this time, when will that happen? Also what happens if that card is mandatory?

 

Trigger Effects (in the OCG at least) are activated in the order of Turn Player's Mandatory, Opponent's Mandatory, Turn Player's Optional, then Opponent's Optional.  After that, then non-Trigger Effects can be chained.

 

In the TCG, I remember some other rulings for Trigger Effects, such as what is triggered first is activated first in the chain, thereby making it make no sense in the TCG, but perhaps someone can clarify the TCG way of doing things.  I don't know if this has changed, or if they still do it in that goofy way.

[Zazubat]

Trigger Effects (in the OCG at least) are activated in the order of Turn Player's Mandatory, Opponent's Mandatory, Turn Player's Optional, then Opponent's Optional.  After that, then non-Trigger Effects can be chained.

 

In the TCG, I remember some other rulings for Trigger Effects, such as what is triggered first is activated first in the chain, thereby making it make no sense in the TCG, but perhaps someone can clarify the TCG way of doing things.  I don't know if this has changed, or if they still do it in that goofy way.

This means that I could activate a Bottomless in response to the effect of Twilight Rose Knight's effect right? Wait no, I might be totaly off here, it wouldn't be possible would it?

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

Trigger Effects (in the OCG at least) are activated in the order of Turn Player's Mandatory, Opponent's Mandatory, Turn Player's Optional, then Opponent's Optional.  After that, then non-Trigger Effects can be chained.

 

In the TCG, I remember some other rulings for Trigger Effects, such as what is triggered first is activated first in the chain, thereby making it make no sense in the TCG, but perhaps someone can clarify the TCG way of doing things.  I don't know if this has changed, or if they still do it in that goofy way.

 

for simultaneous timing it works the same way as ocg. the thing about effects that are triggered first applying first refers to multiple mandatory effects with different triggers but happening at around the same time (the example usually given is tributing sangan for caius. both are mandatory but sangans trigger, being sent to grave, happened before caius' trigger, being summoned.)

[Aix]

If I negate the activation of something, it's not considered activated, right?

 

For example, I have a monster that says: "When your opponent activates a Spell Card: Destroy this monster" and my opponent activates a Spell Card, however, I negate its activation with Dark Bribe or something. Would my monster be destroyed?

[evilfusion]

If I negate the activation of something, it's not considered activated, right?

 

For example, I have a monster that says: "When your opponent activates a Spell Card: Destroy this monster" and my opponent activates a Spell Card, however, I negate its activation with Dark Bribe or something. Would my monster be destroyed?

 

No, the monster in that case would not be destroyed. Since the activation was negated, it was never considered to have been activated. Even if the effect of the monster was Continuous (you worded it as a Trigger Effect), it would still not apply until the Spell has resolved. The activation being negated means nothing ever resolved.

[darkwolf777]

This means that I could activate a Bottomless in response to the effect of Twilight Rose Knight's effect right? Wait no, I might be totaly off here, it wouldn't be possible would it?

 

If Twilight Rose Knight had 1500 or more ATK when it was summoned, you could activate Bottomless Trap Hole to destroy and banish Twilight Rose Knight as Chain Link #3.

 

If the chain is resolving, and Twilight Rose Knight summons a monster with 1500 or more ATK, you will NOT be able to activate Bottomless Trap Hole to destroy that newly summoned monster as you cannot activate new cards while a chain is resolving (Chain Link #1, which is Black Garden, still needs to resolve for the chain to finish).  You will miss the timing for Bottomless Trap Hole.

[Zazubat]

If Twilight Rose Knight had 1500 or more ATK when it was summoned, you could activate Bottomless Trap Hole to destroy and banish Twilight Rose Knight as Chain Link #3.

 

If the chain is resolving, and Twilight Rose Knight summons a monster with 1500 or more ATK, you will NOT be able to activate Bottomless Trap Hole to destroy that newly summoned monster as you cannot activate new cards while a chain is resolving (Chain Link #1, which is Black Garden, still needs to resolve for the chain to finish).  You will miss the timing for Bottomless Trap Hole.

Yeah, for some reason I thought the card would activate and summon right when it came on the field. That doesn't make any sense though.

[Zazubat]

If I use Pandemic, can I later use Infection?

[darkwolf777]

If I use Pandemic, can I later use Infection?

 

Infestation Infection shuffles "lswarm" monsters into the Deck as its cost, not as an effect.  They will still be returned to the Deck while they are affected by Pandemic.

 

In the hypothetical case where the same effect of shuffling an "lswarm" monster to the Deck was an effect, you could still activate Infection and target an "lswarm" affected by Pandemic, but when resolving, since the "lswarm" was unaffected by the effect of Infection to shuffle it into the Deck, you would not be able to add an "lswarm" to your hand.

[Zazubat]

Infestation Infection shuffles "lswarm" monsters into the Deck as its cost, not as an effect.  They will still be returned to the Deck while they are affected by Pandemic.

 

In the hypothetical case where the same effect of shuffling an "lswarm" monster to the Deck was an effect, you could still activate Infection and target an "lswarm" affected by Pandemic, but when resolving, since the "lswarm" was unaffected by the effect of Infection to shuffle it into the Deck, you would not be able to add an "lswarm" to your hand.

That's what I thought, though DN told me wrong, but I was like, but it's a cost. Also, Infection doesn't target, not sure if that really matters or not, but just wanted to let you know.